notobtuse wrote: » Corroborating witnesses that back up the account she told from back in 1993.
dark crystal wrote: » Let's leave Blasey Ford aside for a moment. She got her hearing and her story was disbelieved to the extent that Kavanaugh got the job. Therefore, it's a bit of a non sequiter when discussing Reade's accusations v Trump's numerous accusers, who haven't been given such a forum. You say Reade is way more credible because she has witnesses who 'back up her account'. Ok, let's take Kristin Anderson, for example. Kristin Anderson told The Washington Post that Trump put his hand up her skirt to her underwear in the early 1990s. After the story’s publication, ABC News spoke to a friend of Anderson, Brad Trent, who said he heard the account from Anderson the same year of the alleged incident. Trent told ABC News that Anderson had told him she was sitting next to Trump at the old China Club bar in New York where he slid his hand up her thigh and “grabbed her p----.” In a statement included in the Post story, then-Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks – now his communications director -- disputed Anderson's accusations. “Mr. Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity,” she said at the time. “It is totally ridiculous.” Do you believe Kristen Anderson is credible?
notobtuse wrote: » Let's have a Senate investigation first. Then we'll see about a hearing.
notobtuse wrote: » I don't know if she is truthful or not, but her account and the witnesses who back up her account from the time are many times more credible that Ford's were against Kavanaugh. I think the media should at least devote the same amount of reporting and investigation in this claim as they did with Ford. Accusations against leaders who would have impact on the way our country is run demand the same standards... wouldn't you agree?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Do you believe her?
Billy Mays wrote: » MSLSD always cracks me up Using Sarah Palin catchphrases ffs :pac: :pac:
dark crystal wrote: » do you believe her or not?
SnazzyPig wrote: » Jesus, this thread has reached a new low.
TheCitizen wrote: » So here we have a Trump fanboy attacking Joe Biden for inappropriate sexual behaviour. LOL
Brian? wrote: » It comes across as a man who had nothing to hide and is infuriated repeating it.
2u2me wrote: » I just flicked it on to give it a look: The opening prologue is representative of how this whole thing works. Mika starts with(in her most somber tone): First downplay the allegation, then label any criticism coming from the left as 'the right'. Then tell people how to think about it. Expect thousands of new people to now be considered 'on the right'
notobtuse wrote: » If Democrats didn’t have double standards they’d have no standards at all. Got to love Nancy Pelosi’s defense of Biden: “Joe Biden is Joe Biden.” Translation: “Boys will be Boys.” Nancy was right about one thing in her word salad defense that Joe Biden should have “due process.” Someone should remind her this was something denied to Brett Kavanaugh by Pelosi and her cronies. Of course she'd ignore it anyway.
The Nal wrote: » Biden on MSNBC in 20 mins or so. Will be interesting to see how aggressive he is denying it.
"I want to address the recent criticism(the media are receiving for covering the Tara Reade story). We're going to get to what she alleges, back in '93, in a moment. But first let's talk about the criticism by some, particularly on the right, that the media has not applied the same standard to this allegation against Biden as it did it's allegations against Brett Kavanaugh. We think that's a good thing. The media should not apply a Kavanaugh standard to Joe Biden.
Brian? wrote: » Hey there. Have you backed down on your calls for a Senate hearing?
dark crystal wrote: » How do you figure? There was a publicised hearing and everything where both sides were heard. Kavanaugh got his confirmation in the end. What other due process should he have been afforded beyond that?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Car crash TV. Whether he is or not, Biden coming across as if there is something to hide:https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1256209471765983234
dark crystal wrote: » But you believe Trump when he says such allegations against him were untrue, yes?
dark crystal wrote: » Ok, let's go with the media bias thing. The biased media reported at least 22 allegations against Trump. He didn't sue a one of 'em. So, now this story is out, including in all the biased publications and news networks, do you believe her or not? Is she more or less credible than the 22 Trump accusers?
notobtuse wrote: » Reade has claimed that after he pushed her up against a wall in a secluded area, began kissing her, and reached under her skirt to penetrate her with his fingers, he told her “You're nothing to me.” Hmmm… perhaps Biden was Trump before Trump was Trump?
dark crystal wrote: » He should really have taken a page out of Trump's playbook and just dismissed her as having been too ugly to have groped. “Yeah, I’m gonna go after her,” he said sarcastically at a rally in Greensboro, North Carolina. “Believe me, she would not be my first choice. That I can tell you. You don’t know. That would not be my first choice.” “When you looked at that horrible woman last night, you said 'I don’t think so,'” Trump told his supporters. “I don’t think so. Whoever she is, wherever she comes from, the stories are total fiction. They are 100 percent made up. They never happened. They never would happen. I don’t think it happened with very many people, but they certainly aren’t gonna happen with me.”
notobtuse wrote: » Why? Simple… hypocrisy, and one set of standards for Republicans and another for Democrats shouldn’t be tolerated. Did not the press devote countless resources into investigating those allegations against Trump? The answer is OH, YEAH! So, why have the democrat's media handmaidens been MIA for weeks now that accusations of sexual abuse against Biden were made?
dark crystal wrote: » https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations You seem so incredibly focused on this one allegation against Joe Biden. What are your views regarding the 22 allegations made against Donald Trump? Do you believe, as he does, that they are merely targeting him as a political smear tactic? Are these women more or less credible than Tara Reade? Are Trump's denials more authentic than Biden's? Surely all allegations deserve the same amount of scrutiny, regardless of political affiliation?
Quin_Dub wrote: » What information would that be then ?
Sexual misconduct allegations have been made against Trump by at least 22 women. Trump has denied the allegations, saying he has been the victim of media bias, conspiracies, and a political smear campaign. In October 2016, Trump publicly vowed to sue all the women who have made allegations of sexual assault (e.g. non-consensual kissing or groping) or sexual harassment against him, as well as The New York Times for publishing the allegations, but he has yet to follow through with any legal action.
