notobtuse wrote: » Sure they are. When the US media stops putting their ideologies in reporting ahead of journalistic integrity I'll stop picking on them.
MadYaker wrote: » Was it proven that that was her mother on Larry King?
MadYaker wrote: » I guess you think it’s equally incredible that nobody is talking about the 24 allegations of sexual misconduct against Trump?
The Nal wrote: » The double standards are incredible really. This is a big story, with merit, and more than the usual amount of evidence to give it some credibility. Allegation, a recorded call from 1993 which corroborates her story about when she told her mother and now a neighbour. Biden is now in the very difficult position of having to release or not release his senate records to prove or disprove if there was a complaint in there. 1,875 boxes and 415 gigabytes of senatorial records.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Don't agree with the weaponizing of allegations
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Don't agree with the weaponizing of allegations such as that of Tara Reade's but the double standards are glaring and hard to ignore. Tara would have had a Anderson Cooper special by now had she been accusing a Republican candidate and there'd have been hundreds of the usual celebs tweeting about how they were standing with her. Nancy won't be tweeting this 'fixed it' tweet anytime soon that's for sure:
notobtuse wrote: » Joe Biden currently has 1,305 of the 1,991 delegates needed to clinch a first-round nomination at the democrat’s convention. Now New York has cancelled their primary. What if NY’s decision triggers key other states to cancel their own primaries? So Biden arrives at the convention (assuming he remembers where it will be held) thinking the nomination is his (even though he doesn't quite have enough delegates because of cancelled primaries) and walla… Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo or Michelle Obama steps into the picture and pulls the rug out from under his feet. Possible brilliant move on the part of NY of perhaps finding an underhanded way to oust the doddering old fool from the ticket. Sneaky devils up there in NY. Got to give them credit, though.
notobtuse wrote: » Valid possibilities hurt, eh?
notobtuse wrote: » Please show me one person who backed up Ford's accusations. And don't know... I'm addressing facts, not motives. But let's look at the elephant in the room... The republicans went along with hearings into the Kavanaugh allegations, why won't democrats even consider it with Biden?
Brian? wrote: » No one here, on board.ie is defending him. You need to get over your obsession with the US media.
kilns wrote: » I think you seriously need to look irony up in the dictionary and stop making stupid posts like this
kilns wrote: » Ok just to take one example Reades brother at time said that his sister told him he put his hands on her clothes a lot different than the allegation. Plus can you explain why someone who is 10 times more Credible is liking and retweeting the man she has accused tweets regarding stoping violence against women?
Carfacemandog wrote: » I would definitely be hoping that the FOIA request (if granted) is made public with the full report, as multiple other sources state he is not named on the report.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html On Thursday, Ms. Reade filed a report with the Washington, D.C., police, saying she was the victim of a sexual assault in 1993; the public incident report, provided to The Times by Ms. Reade and the police, does not mention Mr. Biden by name, but she said the complaint was about him.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52462113 Ms Reade filed a criminal complaint on 9 April 2020 with police, saying she was a victim of sexual assault but did not name Mr Biden.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/4ag95p/the-woman-accusing-biden-of-sexual-assault-filed-a-report-to-police-heres-what-you-need-to-know The report, which VICE News has viewed, doesn’t name Biden, but Reade told the New York Times that it’s about him.
notobtuse wrote: » I highly doubt you are interested. But, okay. Reade’s mother called in back when it happened to the Larry King show on CNN and described what happened (10 times more credible than anything Ford had put forth), IMO. Reade’s next door neighbor confirmed she told her back when it happened (10 times more credible than anything Ford had put forth). Reade’s roommate confirmed she told her back when it happened (10 times more credible than anything Ford had put forth). Reade’s brother confirmed she told him back when it happened (10 times more credible than anything Ford had put forth). Reade is calling for Biden to unseal his Senate records to confirm she made a complaint with the Senate against Biden when it happened (10 times more credible than anything Ford had put forth). Reade actually filed a police report (10 times more credible than anything Ford had put forth). Hmmm…. Perhaps I should have said 60 times more credible than anything Ford had put forth.
notobtuse wrote: » Lordy, lordy... Well, this is the second time I have to prove ya’ll wrong on this. I hope it will be the last time.https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/837966525/on-the-record-a-former-biden-staffers-sexual-assault-allegation Time for you to move the goalposts again?
notobtuse wrote: » Bullcrap. All democrats and their media handmaidens are defending Biden and stating it didn't happen, citing a NY Times article. But in new news the NY Times is saying the democrats are misrepresenting what they wrote and the democrats claim about the NY Times is a lie.https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/04/29/new-york-times-biden-team-is-lying-about-our-reporting-on-tara-reade-n386699
Carfacemandog wrote: » Which you already established that I knew in the previous post where you said "I understand she did name Biden in the police report". Funny how you're now tracking back to "ye she did file a police report". Which we bjth already knew. She however refused to name Biden in it, as filing fake police reports can bring about legal repercussions. At the same time, she is more than happy to name him in media where it is much harder to face repercussions if you are lying. I can see why you would want to dance around that.
NPR obtained confirmation of the police report from a law enforcement source. A record of the report names Biden. NPR has filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the full report.
notobtuse wrote: » Yes she did file a police report.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/reade-sexual-assault-allegation-against-biden-remains-open-investigation-says-d-c-police
MadYaker wrote: » That link doesn’t back up what you said. Have you got any links to democrat politicians saying it didn’t happen?
kilns wrote: » What makes you claim that it’s 10 times more reliable? I’m very interested to hear. Both women may well be telling the truth but I look forward to your ratio explanation
MadYaker wrote: » Voters don’t care about sexual assault allegations anymore. Trump has had 25 allegations of sexual misconduct levelled at him so it’s not as if the voters can vote for someone who’s squeaky clean in that regard so what difference does it make? Biden should refuse to release his tax returns until trump does the same.
Brian? wrote: » What's interesting is no one is trying to defend Biden or attack Reade. The reaction is completely different to the one Blasey Ford got. I also hope Biden's Senate record is unsealed. I also hope he releases his tax returns and encourages Hunter to do the same. I'd love to seem all of this because there isn't a hope in he'll of Trump being as transparent. You seem quite comfortable with a president who's been accused of sexual assault many times, can't really strong a cogent sentence together, openly admitted groping women without consent, won't release his tax returns, lies constantly and appoints his own family to political positions they have no experience for. Then you attack Biden for much smaller sins. You don't ever feel like a hypocrite?
Carfacemandog wrote: » She didn't, where did you read or see that she did? And that is another weird, illogical part of her story. She claims to police report was for 'security reasons' yet, what security does one get from filing a police report? None as best I am aware, though any implied protections from it you would think would only be stronger by naming the person who she is all too willing to accuse publically. The fact that filing false police reports can result in fines or even prison time on the other hand, would be an excellent motivator for her to not want to name Biden in said police report, despite being eager to do so in public at every opportunity. --- What is stranger still is, if her complaint is legitimate then why was she praising Biden on social media as recently as 2017 for related issues? She even wrote articles about Bidens work in helping sexual assault victims, this one from back I n2009: "I should know what an abuser looks like. After all, I was working for then Senator Joseph Biden, who sponsored the Violence Against Women Act. But domestic violence is an equal opportunity offender." Coupled with her insistence in naming Biden publically wherever she can over this alleged incident, yet point blank refusal to do so on the police report that she made (e.g. the one palce there may be consequences if she were lying) this is even more bizarre. All of this previous praise she has had for Biden on the matter is frankly quite bizarre to put it mildly, especially given she claims she left his office due to what she is alleging. And on that note, her reasons for leaving have also changed repeatedly through the years. Despite now claiming it was due to sexual assault, at the time, she claimed it was due to her husband and her each getting better job offers in California. And even more curiously, only 18 months ago she wrote it was because she was a) more interested in working in theatre, b) tired/disillusioned with American imperialism, and (I sh*t you not)... c) because of her love for Russia. And since that point, she has repeatedly gushed over Putin in written articles. It all smells very fishy that she is so eager to avoid naming Biden in the one place where it would have consequence were she lying (and thus would give her claim more credence were she to name him there) whole publically accusing him left, right and centre in media where she would not face consequence were she lying. It is also fishy that she has repeatedly changed her story as to why she concluded her employment with him. It is also very fishy that she has repeatedly changed her story down the years from highly praising Biden on these issues to calling him an abuser himself. It is even more fishy that this change in opinion has perfectly coincided with her doing a complete, seemingly instant 180 on her opinion of Vladimir Putin whom she now considers someone who "scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader", who has "obvious reverence for women, children and animals, and his ability with sports is intoxicating to American women” and has also stated "When the anti-Russia, anti-Putin propaganda starts up, personally, I shut down. I love Russia, I love my Russian relatives and friends. And like most women across the world, I like President Putin… a lot, his shirt on or shirt off." This would read like parody if it didn't mirror pro Putin propaganda that has been seen in Russia for much ofthe last two decades, and that last comment is a particular eyebrow raiser coming from someone who claims to be a victim of sexual assault in a political setting. You can find references for the above and some more info in this article - https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460 It really calls into question not just her comments/allegations, but her overall credibility on almost anything involving Putin, Biden and American or Russian politics in general.
Quin_Dub wrote: » The cognitive dissonance here is staggering.. Biden should be forced to open his record to Scrutiny , but Trump should go all the way to the Supreme to keep all of his records sealed. Biden withholding his records is definitive proof of wrong-doing , Trump withholding his is a glorious fight against the insidious Deep-State that are out to get him.. How do you not see the utter hypocrisy of this viewpoint? BTW - They should all release ALL their records , if you want to stand for public office , then the release of Tax records , Business records (or records from other offices held) etc. should be compulsory.
notobtuse wrote: » I understand she did name Biden in the police report.
The Nal wrote: » I don't think she can prosecute. Statute of limitations has run out. She said she filed the complaint for "safety reasons". She has said "I don't want Donald Trump to be president" but about Biden "If he’s my president, I just can’t fathom it.".
