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macOS 10.15 Catalina

Sad Professor

Just announced at WWDC, out in Autumn as usual.

Major change is that iTunes is no more. Now separate Music, Podcasts and TV apps with device syncing relegated to the Finder. Also improvements to Photos, Notes, Reminders and Safari. And the ability to use an iPad as a second display and use the Pencil via the iPad. Some iOS features like Screentime and Activation Lock (only recent Macs) have also been ported over. Also Voice Control for navigating the Mac via voice commands.

Supports all mid-2012 or later Macs.

More here: https://www.apple.com/macos/catalina-preview/

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The Black Oil

Deleted User wrote: »

Got It.

Cannot for the life of me get Final Cut Pro X Updated from 10.4.8 to 10.4.10

something to do with not being available in the Irish Store

I was able to get FCP 10.4.10 OK. Don't suppose an old turn it off/on again would do the trick?

I've a machine with Sierra (iirc) and there's a FCP update for it, but no joy.

[Deleted User]

The Black Oil wrote: »

10.15.7 is out.

Got It.

Cannot for the life of me get Final Cut Pro X Updated from 10.4.8 to 10.4.10

Done. Rebooted few times and went to app store. Lengthy enough update too just for Final Cut Pro X 10.4.10

Sad Professor

It looks like HP printing, which was broken for several days, has been fixed.

The Black Oil

10.15.7 is out.

JonMac

10.15.6 is working fine on my 2019 iMac

whiterebel

A lot of the KPs seem to be with the new 16" MBP. I know myself from having problems with 13" MBP, Mini and new iMac that a lot of the problems with other machines stemmed from just installing straight over Mojave. They didn't allow for differences in the firmware(?) from what I read, and it required an erase and install to get it back correctly. I can only say it worked ok for me once that had been done.

DeconSheridan

Currently Catilina 10.15.x is plagued with CPU panic random restart and reeboots on heavy task usage for 1000's of users across the globe across many hardware units. Upgrading might bring you serious problems if your work is critical and customer based. Apple introduced and update 10.15.6 but the issue still remains. My own take on this is, the cpus are running too hot on heavy use or tasks. Iv tried with some success Keeping the cpu's cooler using 3rd party apps such as Mac Fans complemented with a desktop fan for more air flow around the machine. If your thinking of upgrading to OSX Catilina, hold off until this OS issue is sorted by Apple.

Apple Forum => Catalina freezing all the time!

MacRumors => macos-10-5-4-kernel-panic-crashing-issues/

Type 17

Doodah7 wrote: »

Updated to 10.15.6 on my Mac mini earlier with no issues.

It will probably be one of the last ever updates for my mid-2012 MBP however...

Same here, on both counts - Late 2013 iMac

Doodah7

Updated to 10.15.6 on my Mac mini earlier with no issues.

It will probably be one of the last ever updates for my mid-2012 MBP however...

Type 17

Got an Appleseed invite for Safari 14 for Catalina - works well, only differences are that Top Sites is gone, replaced by Start Page which has Bookmarks of your choice (pick a folder from your Bookmarks tree), but it's not dynamic by your visiting habits, like Top Sites is.

Great reporting of the trackers following you on each website (and being refused by Safari) - Boards has 5, including Facebook.net

The Black Oil

10.15.6 is out.

Grab All Association

whiterebel wrote: »

I've given up. I hadn't realised in 2019 they put a 5400 HDD into an iMac. I think the finder gets itself into a knot in the bottleneck in the HDD. I have bit the bullet and ordered an OWC 1TB SDD kit for it.

Be careful taking it apart. The PSU is exposed and you must ensure you drain the capacitors by unplugging and holding the power button for 20 seconds. Even then they can still pack quite a punch.

A 1TB Seagate SSHD is a massive performance boost for these machines. 8GB cache SSD + 992GB HDD.

€400 notebooks are shipping these days with 120GB M.2 sata/NVMe SSD, shipping €1000+ AIO desktops with 2.5” SATA III HDD is just taking the piss.

whiterebel

Grab All Association wrote: »

Is it the entry-level 2017 iMac?
If so, those Hitachi (HGST) HDD Apple use tend to be the bottle neck on these machines.

I've given up. I hadn't realised in 2019 they put a 5400 HDD into an iMac. I think the finder gets itself into a knot in the bottleneck in the HDD. I have bit the bullet and ordered an OWC 1TB SDD kit for it.

The Black Oil

Supplemental update time.

The Black Oil

This might help with the logout thing. https://pdf.wondershare.com/macos-10-15/fix-macos-10-15-keeps-logging-you-out-issue.html

JonMac

Just did it. No problems.

The Black Oil

10.15.5 is out.

whippet

hoping someone might give me some guidance and to best way to sort out my storage on the Mac.

I got a new MBP recently. I didn't bother with the upgrade to the SSD upgraded RAM and processor instead. I set it up as a new Mac (didn't bother with Time Machine).

All was going fine until this morning when I went to boot parallels and got and error about not being able to locate the VM. What I've discovered is that I had my VM sitting on the desktop after drag and dropping it from the old machine and it was automatically then back-up to iCloud.

Here in lies the problem - I've run out of space on the SSD - about 110GB of photos and due to this I can't download the VM from iCloud - as it was obviously removed from the desktop when space was getting low.

I've moved my photos folder to an external drive and I've pointed Photos to that. I've moved the VM to a documents folder and its now downloading - 40GB worth on a flakey enough internet connection at the moment.

How best to organise photos and iCloud storage now? I've 2TB iCloud storage and both my iPhone and iPad Pro are 256gb models. Am I best to leave the photos on the external drive - I don't really use the MBP for photos all that much; will the library automatically update once the external drive is connected?

I now feel foolish for not just getting the 512GB SSD at the time !

cnocbui

The Black Oil wrote: »

Safari is still quitting when I'm away from my desk. Firefox would too, but it can't because the tabs won't unless I say OK.

Does the new music thingy have a visualiser like iTunes? The easiest way to prevent a mac auto-locking is to just engage the visualiser in iTunes. It won't lock or sleep while it's on. Strangely, you don't even need a track to be playing.

The Black Oil

Safari is still quitting when I'm away from my desk. Firefox would too, but it can't because the tabs won't unless I say OK.

[Deleted User]

Final Cut Pro X: sorted.

Spoke to Apple Technical Support. Grand except the case number opened a 404 webpage.

Got Sound up to 96000 Hz 32 bit for my preferred speakers.

My monitor a cheap LG telly displays a bit bright but that's acceptable.

5uspect

Should be in your purchases in the App Store.

[Deleted User]

Today, updated my Mac Mini from its OS X Mojave to Catalina: Decided to erase the internal HDD and reinstall Mojave. Then upgrade to Catalina.

The sting in the tale: Eventhough its on my original order, Final Cut Pro X is being charged again to me?? Thought my Apple ID would sort that out. :c

Oh well.

More later.

The Black Oil

Safari seems OK. Firefox too, though it can't really quit because I've never turned off the option for it to do so without it asking if I want to close ___ tabs. It does seem to want to try and log out (I think) and TextEdit is stopping it, if it has an unsaved thing open. That's not new.

whiterebel

Just copy across the contents of the music/photos folder, and put them back when it is reinstalled. Apple Mail is more complex.

The Black Oil

whiterebel wrote: »

Thats exactly what happened to me. And re-installing from Time Machine seemed to bring it all back too. Copy everything you need from your Mac, music, pictures. files etc and erase the drive and start again. You do this by holding cmd+R at start up and using Disk Utility from there. Then introduce apps etc back slowly. Mine has started to slow up again, with spinning beach balls, I think its either down to Box, Synology Drive or One Drive. One of the big threads elsewhere suggested a major problem with Dropbox, so it could be the cloud drives causing problems in general.

I reinstalled Catalina without a USB stick earlier on, no harm as a system refresh. Seems to be zippy and going well, I'll keep an eye out if any problems.

I've two HDs, one's for Time Machine, the other if I'm looking at video files on the TV. I started to copy stuff onto the latter and it said it would take 2 days.

Might be better to do it in chunks. One of the things I wasn't sure about was how to copy user profile folders (not not the profile itself) like Movies/Music and how they'd work on a clean Install i.e. if you're dumping stuff from your original iTunes folder. Would it work? Not that I'm bothered about iTunes/Music app, haven't synced by cable in yonks.

whiterebel

The Black Oil wrote: »

Thank you.

Well, the issue was it's been restarting itself a few times. That seems to have eased a little, Safari was quitting too. Something a little amiss.

Appreciate your point about potentially recreating the problem.

Thats exactly what happened to me. And re-installing from Time Machine seemed to bring it all back too. Copy everything you need from your Mac, music, pictures. files etc and erase the drive and start again. You do this by holding cmd+R at start up and using Disk Utility from there. Then introduce apps etc back slowly. Mine has started to slow up again, with spinning beach balls, I think its either down to Box, Synology Drive or One Drive. One of the big threads elsewhere suggested a major problem with Dropbox, so it could be the cloud drives causing problems in general.

The Black Oil

Thank you.

Well, the issue was it's been restarting itself a few times. That seems to have eased a little, Safari was quitting too. Something a little amiss.

Appreciate your point about potentially recreating the problem.

DubDJ

The full guide on reinstalling on Apple’s support site.
[URL] https://support.apple.com/en-ie/guide/mac-help/mchlp1599/mac[/URL]

Btw, the reason the command you posted didn’t work was because you need to change the “USBStick” part with the actual name of the USB you are using, e.g. SANDISK16

brav

The Black Oil wrote: »

Ah right, I thought USB was the preferred route of doing it.

I can run the Catalina installer (clean install, ideally) without a stick, and then put stuff back from Time Machine?

Yes you can boot to recovery, erase drive using disk utility and install from fresh.
If you are doing this because of existing issue be wary that then restoring from recovery could bring the issue back.
You could also choose to just migrate a user back from a back up.
Also you could re install over the top which restores system files and leaves user data and apps, but either way it’s all from recovery.

By the way there are 3 ways of booting to recovery, regular Command + R, Internet recovery(latest version of macOS from apple servers), and original version of macOS OS that came with the Mac available on server, I think Alt + Command + R