De Bhál wrote: » Biggest surprise was seeing the cyclists driving the team cars after a stage. Valverde for example, driving down the mountain after busting a gut to get second that day.
eeeee wrote: » This was really surprising! I wonder if other teams do this? I thought all the riders got into the bus after a stage, or got a lift in cars down if the bus can't make it up there, or rode down! Who drove the cars up there and how did they get back down? So many questions!
neris wrote: » Alot of the high mountain stages the buses are no where near the finish. They could be 15km away. Some of the riders will just cycle back down to where the buses are after getting warm clothes & food at the finish. Sometimes they,ll take a cable car down if they finish in a ski resort. Stage like that valverde may have had to hang around a good while for doping control, media & sponsors so by the time he's done all the riders are finished and the roads quiet enough for the cars to drive down and he just goes straight to the hotel. Last while some teams have used helicopters to get their riders down off the finish but they dont always work
Jim Gazebo wrote: » I didn't get past the first episode. Thought it was all over the shop . Should I bother watching the rest? Seems good in ratings from people here but if it is anything like first episode I have no interest.
red_ken wrote: » Yeah it was fairly tough on him though it looked as if they were pissed at him for what happened the previous day. I'd like to see him and Landa prosper at their new teams but a GT victory is unlikely with their TT skills. Landa is like a modern day Luis Ocana, without the wins. Can't see Carapaz being at Ineos too long.
Randy Archer wrote: » You’d love to know what they actually edited out of this pretty warts and all documentary .
buffalo wrote: » I was trying to work that one out. My impression was that he didn't want to stay at Movistar because he didn't think he'd get a chance to be leader. Is he moving to Ineos because he think he'll be leader there, or because at least he'll get paid a fortune not to be leader?
neris wrote: » Only up to episode 4 but Valverde doesnt come across as much of prick as i thought he was
They sure as hell don’t like Quintana . He didn’t come across very well in it , not communicating etc, and he’s suppose to be the boss , the alpha male, the guy who actually has the giro n Vuelta titles, two really though titles.
Guess I’m not mad about him in light of the Tom Doumulon Giro incident in 2017 - one day Tom actually stops the peloton knowing that Nario is down, but the next day when Tom got into trouble , Nario didn’t return the favour , little bit C h
Then again, least we know that Nario ain’t on the juice . He didn’t exactly go out of his way to help his team And sort of threw the dummy out . Yet again Hard not to feel sorry for him, it was like an episode of the David Brent the office . Interesting to see how well he has done this season and it seems that his new team is actually a pretty decent group in their own right
The documentary didn’t show him in a good light at the Vuelta , not sure the emotional speech at the end was genuine, you could see the lads being more than happy to say, jog on Nario (despite the two GT wins)
Carpaz , hard to dislike him, but of a killer instinct, I like that. He certainly has balls as his team would shout. He kinda burned bridges with them at the end, they weren’t impressed how he was there for the Vuelta and having fecked off to Sky, kinda reminds me of Robin Van Persie ie the minute he got two solid seasons under in belt after so ,any years of injury and acting the bollock ,he decks off. Suppose he saw the drama at Movistar and thought feck this. But to go to Sky ? Jesus h Christ ,they have their own power struggles .
Valverde , hmm. Always respected his ability and willingness to ride in Classics and GTs , but 2008-2010 drugs scandals always made me doubt and dislike him. He’s an interesting dude and a savage cv if he’s clean. Outstanding even . He’s a guy who talks a lot but does walk the walk too ,so kudos. There were two incidents were I thought he came across as being a bit coy, coy even.... one in particular was when he claimed not to hear his team mate ,who was in a winning position , ask for a gel . Can see , from his personality, why he is highly respected by the media and the peloton .
Great show, would love to know what they cut out . I use to laugh at Movistar ballsing up races ie riding hard for other teams , but I can’t blame the riders themselves. Despite a pretty good year for them, last year, it seemed a very toxic environment which we already suspected
Daroxtar wrote: » One think that comes out well for them is the incident in the Vuelta where they attacked when Roglic was caught up in the crash. At the time everyone was disgusted with them but looking at it now, it was their plan from the get-go and the race was on.
Finnrocco wrote: » It also came across to me that most of the DS aren't really that great. Tactics? Go hard on the last hill? Make it hard for them today? When a rider is away on his own roar have you got the balls? We could all do that. I mean even the Sky tactics aren't anything magic- ride a train as hard as you can all the way up the last mountain and your team leader rides away. Pretty much any race I ever did. It's the same as it ever was - strongest man wins (mostly).
CramCycle wrote: » I think he says exactly this in the last episode, he won't get to be leader at Movistar, and he gets a bigger cheque at Sky.
Mehaffey1 wrote: » Didn't see the incident at the time but this is one aspect of Pro Cycling I'd hate to see left by the wayside. I'm sure there's been numerous occasions where riders or teams have planned to attack on the day a Race Leader has been held up. For something as monumental as a 3 week stage race I always thought it fantastic when a Peloton or Main Group slows the pace for a fallen Race Leader to get back into the group. Then you can attack him/her all you want foe the rest of the stage. It's one of those things were lives are changed by a puncture or other misfortune. If you don't extend that behaviour to others as I would in a race then never expect it when you're on the receiving end of a bit of bad luck.
RunDMC wrote: » Don't forget the falling out between Unzue and Giuseppe Acquadro. That's a big factor too in Quintana to Arkea-Samsic, Carapaz and Amador to Ineos. And he's making sure that the South American pipeline that Gianni Savio runs doesn't go near Movistar. R
Junior wrote: » The directors were only asked to remove two bits, one was some swearing, and the other was some unintentional nudity (someone walked across the back of a shot)
Weepsie wrote: » Carapaz at 26, is only coming into the prime age for a GC cyclist though so may well have years ahead being the dominant GC cyclist at INEOS. He's less than a year older than TGH too. He's got a top 4 and a GC win. Cycling is littered with highly promising youngsters, touted for GC and beyond who never quite make that breakthrough too, so I imagine he's there to win GCs along with Bernal over the next 3-5 years while maybe, and it's a big maybe the younger guys get ready.
gmacww wrote: » I watched it over the weekend and if I'm honest I thought it was quite poor. Here have lots of arty shots of lamp shades shoes on the floor. Content wise was quite minimal and the jumping around made it almost unwatchable at times. I think it benefited massively from the content drought at the moment. We've no cycling so anything cycling related is "amazing". If this was shown during a normal cycling season I think peoples reactions to it would be different. For anyone that saw say the Paul Kimmage doc there was more content in that in 1 hour than this would have in 3 seasons at the current rate. One 6 minute episode of Mitchelton Scott BSP covers more than two episodes. I don't think Nairo came across as bad as many had have suggested. Lacking in communication most certainly but not a bad guy. On the whole and yes it's hard to argue consistent team awards at GT's but tactically and for focus that team is a mess. Losing concentration as the DS with your leader in the TT of a GT is un-forgivable. I can forgive the rider as he's enough to deal with but the DS in the car should be calling out everything well in advance. The fact that they missed the corner screams a lack of focus. I know I could be countered here saying you cheery picked one but here for contrast is Matt White doing the TT in the TdF with a man in about 150th place. Look at the calls, the calmness, the directions and the information difference here than with Movistar.https://youtu.be/9mh9USnsHN0?t=142
dinneenp wrote: » Not to gate crash but whare are some recommended cycling documentaries, films etc. please? Thanks, Pa.
keane2097 wrote: » There's one about the Orica-Scott team on Prime that's very good, particularly if you're into food because it interweaves the chef's journey through the countryside looking for produce with the TdF stuff.
