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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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With Nancy Pelosi’s Schiff Show Sham of an impeachment over (well, all but over, anyway) time to turn to the US presidential election.

So, who is left:

Donald Trump (R): You wanted change, you got change... Trump change!

Joe Biden (D): Distracted by shiny objects!
Bernie Sanders (I - running as a D, what's up with that?): On a scale of Mao to Stalin, how bad would a president Bernie be?
Elizabeth Warren (D): Little Chief Gonna Spend A Lot.
Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D): Portrait of a young bull$hit artist.
Andrew Yang : Vote for me and I’ll give you $12,000.
Mike Bloomberg (?): Who says you can’t buy an election?
Tulsi Gabbard (D): I guess it’s true you never piss off the Clintons.
Amy Klobuchar (D) and the rest of the also-rans: Who?

And then there’s Hillary Clinton (Witch), waiting in the wings for a contested convention so her superdelegates buddies can hand her the nomination: Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire!

Personally, when Pelosi, who had to impeach Trump immediately because he was such a threat to the nation, and then waited a month to walk the articles of impeachment in a stupid procession over to the Senate... it was like she was walking with Trump’s reelection papers.

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silverharp

This wont be good for Biden

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1253815721722875906

Blueshoe

duploelabs wrote: »

Casinos.
Steaks.
Water.
Airlines.
Colleges.

He's done a wonderful job with his superior business acumen in all those sectors [/s]

Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.

Carfacemandog

Blueshoe wrote: »

Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.

He'd actually have been richer if he just put all the money daddy gave him into a 401k, back in the 80s.

Fred was a piece of work (and KKK sympathiser), but he also knew how to make money. Donalda so bad at it that he couldn't keep up with the stock market and wound up in a position where no US banks would touch him, forcing him to turn to the likes of Russia and China, the latter of which it turns out he is $200,000,000 in the hole to.

No wonder he's so terrified of anyone seeing his tax returns.

MadYaker

silverharp wrote: »

This wont be good for Biden

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1253815721722875906

What won't be good for Biden??? How is that video in any way related to Biden?

[Deleted User]

duploelabs wrote: »

Casinos.
Steaks.
Water.
Airlines.
Colleges.

He's done a wonderful job with his superior business acumen in all those sectors [/s]

Don't forget him not being allowed to run a charity anymore either.

Cody montana

Blueshoe wrote: »

Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.

How's the trump foundation doing these days?

Brian?

Blueshoe wrote: »

Failed businesses. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is successful yet hasn't stumbled along the way. They got up and tried again.

Bill Gates
Michael Bloomberg
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffet

No one is pressing me hard.

Silentcorner

Brian? wrote: »

What business skills do you think he's brought to the Oval office?

I propose the only "business skills" he's brought is racking up debt he knows he won't have to pay off. He's been doing that for years.

To be fair, he doesn't have to be a successful business person to be able to understand how the SME operate at ground level in cities and towns across America....and the issues facing the entrepreneur...the spirit with which the American dream is based on.

I am told, albeit anecdotally by a friend who is such a person, that he has cleared the difficult hurdles that many parts of the US has placed for budding business owners to get set up, I believe California is a nightmare, but again that is anecdotal....this boom was really impacting the those small family or privately owned business owners who in turn employed people in numbers that the US hadn't previously seen.

This booming economy had nothing to do with the previous administration.

lawrencesummers

Brian? wrote: »

Bill Gates
Michael Bloomberg
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffet

No one is pressing me hard.

Gates is a College drop out and had failed with other business before he was succesfull

Bezos gave himself a 30% chance of amazon being succesfull and has had massive failures in running the business

[Deleted User]

His tough “policies” on immigration, the southern border, the wall and all that won’t look quite so attractive to some of his supporters here when he starts to crack down on the undocumented Irish people out there. I think COVID-19 has deflected him from that path he was on earlier in the year. He’ll get back to it when he sees votes in it.

Silentcorner

Brian? wrote: »

Bill Gates
Michael Bloomberg
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffet

No one is pressing me hard.

Ah come on....in America people go bankrupt all the time...their resilience and respect for people who try is unseen anywhere else in the world....

Silentcorner

Carfacemandog wrote: »

He'd actually have been richer if he just put all the money daddy gave him into a 401k, back in the 80s.

Fred was a piece of work (and KKK sympathiser), but he also knew how to make money. Donalda so bad at it that he couldn't keep up with the stock market and wound up in a position where no US banks would touch him, forcing him to turn to the likes of Russia and China, the latter of which it turns out he is $200,000,000 in the hole to.

No wonder he's so terrified of anyone seeing his tax returns.

Back then that would have made him a Democrat.

duploelabs

Silentcorner wrote: »

Ah come on....in America people go bankrupt all the time...their resilience and respect for people who try is unseen anywhere else in the world....

It's hard to believe that Trump has any respect for anyone but himself

Brian?

Silentcorner wrote: »

To be fair, he doesn't have to be a successful business person to be able to understand how the SME operate at ground level in cities and towns across America....and the issues facing the entrepreneur...the spirit with which the American dream is based on.

I am told, albeit anecdotally by a friend who is such a person, that he has cleared the difficult hurdles that many parts of the US has placed for budding business owners to get set up, I believe California is a nightmare, but again that is anecdotal....this boom was really impacting the those small family or privately owned business owners who in turn employed people in numbers that the US hadn't previously seen.

This booming economy had nothing to do with the previous administration.

That’s the problem with anecdotes, they can be misleading. Federal regulations rarely trouble SMEs, they are more at the mercy of state
Laws.

I have no idea how you can say the economy had nothing to do with the previous administration. Trump was handed a booming economy. He eeked out a little bit more growth with tax breaks and reduction of regulation. Neither are a good thing in the long term.

Silentcorner

duploelabs wrote: »

It's hard to believe that Trump has any respect for anyone but himself

Okay....

But what has that to do with the post you quoted?

Brian?

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Gates is a College drop out and had failed with other business before he was succesfull

Bezos gave himself a 30% chance of amazon being succesfull and has had massive failures in running the business

Bezos didn’t fail though. He succeeded, what’s your point?

What business did Gates fail with?

duploelabs

Silentcorner wrote: »

Okay....

But what has that to do with the post you quoted?

"respect for people who try" is what I was referring to

Silentcorner

Brian? wrote: »

That’s the problem with anecdotes, they can be misleading. Federal regulations rarely trouble SMEs, they are more at the mercy of state
Laws.

I have no idea how you can say the economy had nothing to do with the previous administration. Trump was handed a booming economy. He eeked out a little bit more growth with tax breaks and reduction of regulation. Neither are a good thing in the long term.

I have no idea why you are contradicting yourself....

Silentcorner

duploelabs wrote: »

"respect for people who try" is what I was referring to

Sorry...you've lost me...I was referring to American Entrepreneurial Culture...not Trump, altho I have no reason to believe he doesn't have respect for people who try to build businesses from the ground up....you obviously do have reason to believe otherwise!!!

Carfacemandog

Brian? wrote: »

Bill Gates
Michael Bloomberg
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffet

No one is pressing me hard.

Above is a list of people who (with the possible exception of Bloomberg?) did not inherit obscene wealth, and have beaten the stock market by wide, wide margins. Unfortunately for Trump, who inherited his money from daddy, he has not even been able to keep pace with said stock market.

Doesn't make any of them good people, just immeasurably better businesspeople than Two Scoops Donnie.

Carfacemandog

Silentcorner wrote: »

Back then that would have made him a Democrat.

Quite possibly, as this was before the Republicans decided to change tactic and target voters in the South who were upset about losing in the civil rights movement and having to share schools with black kids.

Silentcorner

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Quite possibly, as this was before the Republicans decided to change tactic and target voters in the South who were upset about losing in the civil rights movement and having to share schools with black kids.

Yip...there's nobody perfect!

Amirani

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Gates is a College drop out and had failed with other business before he was succesfull

Gates didn't finish his degree because he was already running the very successful Microsoft.

Saying he was a college dropout is either ignorant or deliberately trying to mislead.

[Deleted User]

Amirani wrote: »

Gates didn't finish his degree because he was already running the very successful Microsoft.

Saying he was a college dropout is either ignorant or deliberately trying to mislead.

Also while people like Steve Jobs did face bankruptcy during their careers, they don't tend to end up blacklisted by many international banks. That's a sign of being unable to manage money and fiscal irresponsibility.

Also the likes of Gates and Jobs aren't known for buying their way into universities.

Carfacemandog

Silentcorner wrote: »

Yip...there's nobody perfect!

Sure, if you treat politics like sports and decide to stick by 'your team' no matter what. Which would explain the loyalty for Trump some feel the need to signal even in the face of his bringing up armed uprisings and drinking bleach.

Brian?

Silentcorner wrote: »

I have no idea why you are contradicting yourself....

I’m not. You told an anecdote about SMEs. I pointed out that federal deregulation means very little to them.

Federal deregulation means a lot to bigger companies.

Is that clear enough?

I assume, since you didn’t respond, that you agree Trump has just rode the coat tails of the Obama recovery.

Silentcorner

Brian? wrote: »

I’m not. You told an anecdote about SMEs. I pointed out that federal deregulation means very little to them.

Federal deregulation means a lot to bigger companies.

Is that clear enough?

I assume, since you didn’t respond, that you agree Trump has just rode the coat tails of the Obama recovery.

I said the opposite....which you know....

Read what you said....you contradicted yourself in what was a short post.

Silentcorner

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Sure, if you treat politics like sports and decide to stick by 'your team' no matter what. Which would explain the loyalty for Trump some feel the need to signal even in the face of his bringing up armed uprisings and drinking bleach.

Well, both Clinton and Obama were against Gay marriage in the very recent past but we don't hang them for it...people change....we don't call Democrats homophobes....do we?

Drinking bleach....come on...

silverharp

MadYaker wrote: »

What won't be good for Biden??? How is that video in any way related to Biden?

Its Tara Reid's (Biden's sexual assault accuser's) mother phoning into the show describing that her daughter hit a brick wall trying to report it internally.

That's not good for Biden

Silentcorner

silverharp wrote: »

Its Tara Reid's (Biden's sexual assault accuser's) mother phoning into the show describing that her daughter hit a brick wall trying to report it internally.

That's not good for Biden

Wait until the #believeallwomen crowd get wind of it......right....