Deleted User wrote: » No, but that’s not the point. In times of uncertainty, people look for leadership. For him to suggest that it might be a solution, no matter how conditioned the comment, will make some people think it’s an idea, I should try it. Yes, a small proportion of the population. But when you’re talking about 300,000,000 people, even a minuscule percentage is a big number. At the very least, it’s irresponsible in the extreme.
Blueshoe wrote: » So he didn't tell people to inject disinfectant
Silentcorner wrote: » And yet a ball of people still believed that Trump was/is a Russian agent...go figure. It is extraordinary that American Networks would attempt to convince people that a sitting American President is actually guilty of treason. He has been accused of genocide ( https://www.newsweek.com/us-showing-many-genocide-warning-signs-donald-trump-expert-very-worried-1483817 ).... And today he has been accused of telling americans to inject disinfectant.... Tomorrow god only knows what people will swallow....
MadYaker wrote: » I don’t understand this obsession with the media. Nobody in Ireland watches the insane American propaganda channels like CNN and Fox News. We watch his press conferences and read his Twitter feed. No media filter in necessary. Context doesn’t make trumps crazy dangerous statements any better.
MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: » Did the intelligence science fella in his briefing to Trump say anything about injecting disinfectant into a body? No he didn't. Where did Trump come up with injecting it.. Did he ask the science guy to go look into what the results would be when you go injecting disinfectant into a body? Yes, yes he very much asked that question, got shut down when the guy got up to clarify something as basic as you don't inject something that is known to be harmful into the body.
Blueshoe wrote: » He didn't tell people to go out an inject themselves with disinfectant though did he?
mcmoustache wrote: » You first statement is correct. Your second betrays you. You could be right or you could be wrong but making definitive statements on something so uncertain without some kind of inside knowledge suggests that you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone else.
Blueshoe wrote: » No president has ever been under this much scrutiny from day 1. Yet he will do another term
amdublin wrote: » You do know that some things should not be posed as a statement or a question or wondered about or thought about or considered or anything at all.... An example might be, putting disinfectant into your body. Like seriously, what would you say back to me if I asked you do you think it would work to put disinfectant in my body? - Would you say jesus amdublin don't be an idiot you will die - Or would you say "well what have you got to lose"? (Knowing what we all know about warnings on the bottle of disinfectant)
mcmoustache wrote: » Not sure what that has to do with anything but I guess it's easier to bring up something completely unrelated when you feel compelled to respond but have nothing of substance to rebut the idea that Trump can't handle the pressures that come from a job that most of his predecessors others have managed to do.
Silentcorner wrote: » And we are also free to discuss the ramifications of the behaviour of the media industry that is whipping people into frenzies by largely removing context from as many statements as possible.
Blueshoe wrote: » Obama certainly didn't. He got so much done during his presidency. He managed to deport 3 million people. Eyes on the prize
osarusan wrote: » Jaysus, you've come wading into this thread talking some top quality shyte on unrelated topics.
amdublin wrote: » Did I say he did? I specifically said he conjectured is it a good thing. - I know it is bad thing if I did that - Children know it is a bad thing - Do you know it is a bad thing? - Can you believe that Donald Trump does not know it is a bad thing? According to you he was looking to his science advisor to confirm to him whether it is bad or not :pac::D NO ONE else in the whole world needs a science advisor to tell them it is a bad thing :D:D
Deleted User wrote: » Awaiting obtuse and co trying to flip the narrative into him joking....
mcmoustache wrote: » I don't recall any other US presidents in my lifetime acting that stupidly despite them having to deal with their own share of crises.
notobtuse wrote: » But he DIDN'T tell anyone to do any of that. I hope you're not the fool and believe it.
notobtuse wrote: » Perhaps because he trying to run the country, is dealing with a pandemic that has devastated us medically and economically, is provided with massive amounts of various information (scientific, medical, domestic, international, military, economic, government, etc, etc, etc) throughout the day regarding, isn’t a scientist or a doctor, is doing a 1-2 hour daily briefing on the coronavirus, and wants his science advisors to help make sure what he is saying has validity.
Silentcorner wrote: » You do know, that if you are walking down a street, that if someone approaches you and says Is there somewhere I can inject heroin around here? They are not telling or advising you to inject heroin....they are asking a question... If a sentence starts with ...Is there...that is the start of a question.....not advice or an order..... Jesus...are we nearly at peak hysteria yet...
amdublin wrote: » Who the heck in the world needs someone to tell them not to inject disinfectant into their lungs? Aside from 2 year olds. Oh Donald Trump of course. Apparently. Sources say. Seriously to Christ. This is just ridiculous. We have now got the situation that the manufacturers need to announce that disinfectant can kill you if used this in way all down to the President of USA, a person with influencing, conjecturing that it might be a good thing. What an absolute idiotic thing for him to do. There is simply no excuse for it. Oh! Maybe there is, maybe he is geriatric and losing his mind. It's very sad. I am being sarcastic. He is a pure fool, a moron of a man for saying it.
MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: » Your previous defense post of him fails from the get go.. he was briefed on things that kill the virus, disinfectant is one of them.. but it has zero place to be in any shape or form going into the body.. its sole use is on surfaces.
Carfacemandog wrote: » Promise. "If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation." Hows that going for him?
mcmoustache wrote: » He didn't bring nuance. He tried to pretend that Trump was taken out of context when the entire context was available to all. His nonsense was so ill-informed that Trump himself has just contradicted him. He added nothing of value to the conversation, much like a high-school-educated valley girl sharing her opinions on quantum entanglement with physicists at Cal-tech.
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