Digital ID's for everyone

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I'm lost here. Did you claim this was the mark of the beast or not? One poster said you posted info from the Book of revelation?

Only as a side note, in light of the current topical pestilance, plagues and what have you.

The fact remains it's a push to Digital IDs, and the question is are you aware, and do you(s) support this mark on the body (as proposed and funded by gates/id2020).

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

The fact remains it's a push to Digital IDs

Which is completely normal, nothing wrong with it. Especially considering there are many millions in the world with no ID at all

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Which is completely normal, nothing wrong with it. Especially considering there are many millions in the world with no ID at all

That's not the question he asked you.
Do you agree, digital marking under the skin ok?

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Do you agree, digital marking under the skin ok?

Okay for who for what purpose under what context?

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

That's not the question he asked you.
Do you agree, digital marking under the skin ok?

Where has anyone said this is going to happen to anyone?
That digitalId site says nothing about any mark on the skin, or under the skin.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Okay for who for what purpose under what context?

He has provided legitimate info to prove his claim.
Have you no issue with people receiving a vaccine digital marker under the skin? It simple yes or no closed question.

EyesClosed wrote: »

Where has anyone said this is going to happen to anyone?
That digitalId site says nothing about any mark on the skin, or under the skin.

Do you read his posts at all? Accumulator says Bill Gates funded this project.
https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Have you no issue with people receiving a vaccine digital marker under the skin? It simple yes or no closed question.

You've changed the question (with more details) and you have given no context

Here's an example because you do this all the time

Example: Is it okay to shoot guns?

Context: Does that mean at people? at animals? at targets? what type of guns? etc, etc

So please give context to your question.

Original question

Do you agree, digital marking under the skin ok?

Okay for who?
For what purpose?
Under what context?

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Do you read his posts at all? Accumulator says Bill Gates funded this project.
https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162

That is for tracking who and who hasnt gotten Vaccines.
What does it have to with digital ids?
It also has no link to the digitalId website.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You've changed the question (with more details) and you have given no context

Here's an example because you do this all the time

Example: Is it okay to shoot guns?

Context: Does that mean at people? at animals? at targets? what type of guns? etc, etc

So please give context to your question.

Original question
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Okay for who?
For what purpose?
Under what context?

It was not a new question.
I gave my answer to what I thought earlier, no need to repeat myself..

You replied to him and said this
Which is completely normal, nothing wrong with it. Especially considering there are many millions in the world with no ID at all

Dohnjoe: the poster talking about digital markers under the skin, you get that right?

EyesClosed wrote: »

That is for tracking who and who hasnt gotten Vaccines.
What does it have to with digital ids?
It also has no link to the digitalId website.

Read the first page of this thread and you'll see why! post 10 specifically claims are made.

patnor1011

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Which is completely normal, nothing wrong with it. Especially considering there are many millions in the world with no ID at all

You keep going about millions of people without ID and how great it will be if they got one yet,
everyone who wants ID can get one from their respective government. Like passport for example.
So let us say that for example Ireland is well ahead with nearly everyone having passport or driving licence or public service card then we can tell Bill to get stuffed with his new gizmo? Why would we have any need for any new ID be it tattoo microchip or whatever?

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Dohnjoe: the poster talking about digital markers under the skin, you get that right?

I was referring to normal digital ID

For something under the skin? If an individual wants to do that to themselves, or implant a chip or rfid or whatever under their skin, that's up to them

However if the implication is that normal modern representative democracies will be forcing this on the population, then I'd like to know the exact details of it instead of vague fear-mongered imaginary stuff

Is there a bill right now in a modern country advocating all new children have mandatory digital markers imprinted on them? if yes, what are the details of it

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Read the first page of this thread and you'll see why! post 10 specifically claims are made.

I have read the post, and that whole site......nowhere on the site does it says anything about a mark on or under the skin.......what am i missing?

One poster has decided that bill gates is going to implant people with something for his new digitalID, and has NOTHING to back that up with.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I was referring to normal digital ID

For something under the skin? If an individual wants to do that to themselves, or implant a chip or rfid or whatever under their skin, that's up to them

However if the implication is that normal modern representative democracies will be forcing this on the population, then I'd like to know the exact details of it instead of vague fear-mongered imaginary stuff

Is there a bill right now in a modern country advocating all new children have mandatory digital markers imprinted on them? if yes, what are the details of it

You have answered him now

His turn to reply.

patnor1011 wrote: »

everyone who wants ID can get one from their respective government. Like passport for example.

They can't always in certain poor countries or regions, that's the issue. And any ID they may have can be sub-standard, have low privacy protection, etc

I'm in Europe, I have a digital ID card. It's pretty useful, the government aren't controlled my brainwaves.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

They can't always in certain poor countries or regions, that's the issue. And any ID they may have can be sub-standard, have low privacy protection, etc

I'm in Europe, I have a digital ID card. It's pretty useful, the government aren't controlled my brainwaves.

That's cause you wear your tinfoil hat though right?

EyesClosed wrote: »

I have read the post, and that whole site......nowhere on the site does it says anything about a mark on or under the skin.......what am i missing?

One poster has decided that bill gates is going to implant people with something for his new digitalID, and has NOTHING to back that up with.

You missing a lot. The poster linking both things. Do I agree with him right now . No. That could change with more information.

Right now ID2020 seems to be a biometric card.
The second link talks about a quantum digital vaccine marker under the skin.
Is digital marking part of the ID2020 rollout, uncertain.

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

You missing a lot. The poster linking both things. Do I agree with him right now . No. That could change with more information.

Right now ID2020 seems to be a biometric card.
The second link talks about a quantum digital vaccine marker under the skin.
Is digital marking part of the ID2020 rollout, uncertain.

Right so I am missing nothing then.
My question was where on that idsite does it mention anything to do with skin?
The vaccine marker is totally unrelated cept Gates supports both. But that doesnt link anything.

EyesClosed wrote: »

The vaccine marker is totally unrelated cept Gates supports both. But that doesnt link anything.

Gates by the way of Microsoft was a founding major parter of id2020 (along with Rockerfellers etc). Now he's taken the opportunity on his own (resigned 17 Mar 2020), via his foundation to push the DigitalID cause further and faster, given the COVID situation.

He funded the MIT team to design quantum dot tattoos as a vaccine inc. tracking mark. It's fairly clever (even at this early stage) the vaccine won't even need refrigeration and is a combo ID (data storage) + Vaccine delivery in one without the need for any actual microchips.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I was referring to normal digital ID
For something under the skin? If an individual wants to do that to themselves, or implant a chip or rfid or whatever under their skin, that's up to them
However if the implication is that normal modern representative democracies will be forcing this on the population, then I'd like to know the exact details of it instead of vague fear-mongered imaginary stuff
Is there a bill right now in a modern country advocating all new children have mandatory digital markers imprinted on them? if yes, what are the details of it

Normal digital ID doesn't currently exist in any meaningful way. This can be observed with the current unsuccessful, inefficent and low take-up of mobile (bluetooth) COVID tracking plans using personal smart phones (a non-runner IMO).

Then there's endless bank frauds (email and phone verfication), scams, ccomputer viruses, phishing of details and so on, with all current digital methods.
As such all are rejected outright by id2020.org.

The only solutions is the persitant type, blockchain secure and unique birth-to-death methods, most likely to be delivered in combo vaccine at birth.

In France today, you have to carry your ID at all times, and during this lockdown (of a virus that may never leave), may well be sent to the birdhouse if caught three times walking about Paris without due purpose (and complete PDF printed form detailing this on each journey).

Digital ID is the natural progression, in a soon to be cashless society. In the developing world it will be even more enforced, no combo vaccine then no school, welfare and likely employment access.

It won't be forced (initally) but it certainly will be pushed as a solution in the West. It does solve plenty of problems by the way, it could end all types of trafficking, dealers, scams, tax-evasion and wasted human admin labour.

However it also comes with a cost. By the time it's forced in any way (once the majority agree to use it), it will be too late to reject.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Gates by the way of Microsoft was a founding major parter of id2020 (along with Rockerfellers etc). Now he's taken the opportunity on his own (resigned 17 Mar 2020), via his foundation to push the DigitalID cause further and faster, given the COVID situation.

He funded the MIT team to design quantum dot tattoos as a vaccine inc. tracking mark. It's fairly clever (even at this early stage) the vaccine won't even need refrigeration and is a combo ID (data storage) + Vaccine delivery in one without the need for any actual microchips.

Yet again.... So what?
There is no link here that says the digital Id will include vaccines or tattoos or microchips.
You have found two interests of Bill Gates, but other than he has helped fund both there is no link.

patnor1011

Dohnjoe wrote: »

They can't always in certain poor countries or regions, that's the issue. And any ID they may have can be sub-standard, have low privacy protection, etc

I'm in Europe, I have a digital ID card. It's pretty useful, the government aren't controlled my brainwaves.

So you honestly think that private company or corporation is going to provide some bilions of great unwashed with nice shiny digital ID free of charge? As they certain poor countries inhabitants clearly cant afford that.
What is this charity going to cost and who is going to pay for it?
Nothing in life is free but problems.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

The only solutions is the persitant type, blockchain secure and unique birth-to-death methods, most likely to be delivered in combo vaccine at birth.

Digital ID is the natural progression, in a soon to be cashless society. In the developing world it will be even more enforced, no combo vaccine then no school, welfare and likely employment access.

Most likely to be combined with a vaccine?? Can you link to anything that shows this? Or is it you making things up?

How do you know this last point? No vaccine, no school, no job? Any sources or is it just fear mongering?

EyesClosed wrote: »

Most likely to be combined with a vaccine??

Well that's what it says on the tin, have you even bothered to read any of the latest delivery conception? (which not by any means is the final solution).

As far as the use or non-use of this ID, this part is somewhat speculation, however using the current standards of paper/card ID, you can't drive/fly/vote/work without having it.

Digital ID is simply going to be the next 'standard'. Far more reliable too, only those with their eyesclosed would fail to spot this.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Well that's what it says on the tin, have you even bothered to read any of the latest delivery conception? (which not by any means is the final solution).

As far as the use or non-use of this ID, this part is somewhat speculation, however using the current standards of paper/card ID, you can't drive/fly/vote/work without having it.

Digital ID is simply going to be the next 'standard'. Far more reliable too, only those with their eyesclosed would fail to spot this.

Yes I have read that.... But it doesn't link the digital id to a vaccine does it?

You have said that vaccines and ids will be linked... You can't back this up, so it's an assumption you have made.

I have never said digital Id won't be the next new thing. I don't disagree with that. But you can't show anything that backs up your claim that it's gonna be linked to a vaccine

EyesClosed wrote: »

Yes I have read that.... But it doesn't link the digital id to a vaccine does it?

By it's nature a quantum dot tattoo, delivered as vaccine combo, is a method/mark of data storage to be read digitally.

This is also a very early new model. The researchers hope to add more detailed information to the dots, date of vaccine and most likely a person identifer (unique ID, digitally read).

Unless you've missed the core mission statements of B'Gates & id2020.org (vaccine technologists), they want a push to a new, better and unique form of DigitalID (not just for vaccines) and primarily for the 1.5bn without any form of ID, but would be ideal for the rest of the world, given the increase in coronaviruses and also crime or fraud.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

By it's nature a quantum dot tattoo, delivered as vaccine combo, is a method/mark of data storage to be read digitally.

This is also a very early new model. The researchers hope to add more detailed information to the dots, date of vaccine and most likely a person identifer (unique ID, digitally read).

Unless you've missed the core mission statements of B'Gates & id2020.org (vaccine technologists), they want a push to a new, better and unique form of DigitalID (not just for vaccines) and primarily for the 1.5bn without any form of ID, but would be ideal for the rest of the world, given the increase in coronaviruses and also crime or fraud.

Where does it say its gonna be delivered as a vaccination combo? It doesn't

EyesClosed wrote: »

Where does it say its gonna be delivered as a vaccination combo? It doesn't

Why would you imagine they've get delivered in any maningful concept of seperation? That defeats the direct brief that Bill sent to the team.

They both get delivery using the same technique, and by default should get delivered at the same time (the marker at, or as soon as the vaccine gets delivered). If it's not delivered at the same time it becomes self-defeating and Bill pulls the funding.

If you implying there is any meaningful 'process seperation' or that one does not accompany the other, you are playing mind games (with yourself).