James Bolger wrote: » Did Big go to college? Must have for a few years and said “ah **** this is for mugs”. Did Alan Ryan try to tax him? I read years ago in a rag they exchanged words in a car park and one told the other they were getting a bullet. That simple, eh. Probably a lot more to it. Interesting though
Oceans One wrote: » Apparently Ryan’s crew tried to tax relations of the tiger kidnap gang close to big....that’s the fight in the car park, Ryan whooped ass, told him he’d be back to collect, knocked on a female relations door a few days later looking for a his few quid, didn’t get it but left with a threat and another tax demand to a sibling who was in the house at the time. He was dead not so long after.
JM009 wrote: » Rumour goes Ryan threw a pint over MrBig too at the car park/pub incident.
greenthum wrote: » supposed to be lies
JM009 wrote: » Sorry if already asked but is Patrick Lawlor related to Robbie?
greenthum wrote: » afaik this was the deciding factor
Oceans One wrote: » Do you know of the sibling in the house at the time?
Oceans One wrote: » Pint was thrown in the face of guy he had fight with
greenthum wrote: » sister
Paul_Crosby wrote: » So the guy he battered in the fight an associate of Bigs?
Oceans One wrote: » I heard the youngest male in family was also there? That’s what I was told. Which I was surprised with because he would have slaughtered Ryan very sharpishly, with his fists!
Muahahaha wrote: » Anyone watch the Scarcity documentary on Robbie Lawlors murder. Thought it would be a load of sh1te when I heard the Birmingham accent but its pretty decent at tying all the various strands of the feud together that ended up in Lawlors death. The lads that did it have done some really good research, much better than the Irish media https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPygq_d662I
greenthum wrote: » dont think so. but i could be wrong just sister there. ryan rang big while there heard his sister gettin roughed up
Paul_Crosby wrote: » The wee bro is handy then??
Oceans One wrote: » He was anyway. Not sure now. He would have slaughtered Ryan easily. Think they were in the same school.
Oceans One wrote: » Story I heard was that Ryan turned up and the mother of house answered, Ryan went in demanding and only came across youngest sibling (not thebro he was taxing). Ryan asked for his money and younger bro sitting in chair sniggered at him and told him to **** off and out of the house. Ryan told him to have x amount of € for the end of the week or else he’d be getting it aswell as other bro who Ryan had already beaten up in the car park.
greenthum wrote: » ryan and his pal had pieces on them i personally woundnt of sniggered even though they were dicks you could be right. i was told this by someone very close to jg, though they’ve no reason to lie unless they dont know truth either its a mental life, even if ur under the radar
Paul_Crosby wrote: » He's not bad he clearly tries to do a lot of research before he states something, I'm sure he got some stuff wrong inevitably but it's funny seeing people in the comments giving him **** for getting stuff wrong which he actually got right one commenter said Noel Deans looks like Danny Dyer on crack and I have to say it is uncanny
Paul_Crosby wrote: » It would seem highly likely that the Reals wanted rid of Ryan here is an interesting articlehttps://www.thepensivequill.com/2016/03/dirty-money-and-river-of-blood.html "The meeting ended with the bag man receiving a severe beating at the door of the hotel. At this point Alan told the guy that he was a dead man and that all those with him were also dead men walking. At this point the former Provisional IRA O/C asked Alan if he was threatening him also. Alan explained that he was not. Alan Ryan lay dead within a few short weeks. A step too far had been taken. Former Provisional leaders within the Dublin brigade, who had long term relationships going back years with criminals based in both Ireland and Spain, had been challenged as they saw it by the new guys on the block and manners would have to be put on them. They had served their purpose over the previous ten years cleaning up, doing the dirty work and collecting money from cigarette deals. It was now time to dispense with them before they grew too strong."
Bellend2020 wrote: » To be fair I hear Ryan was as hard as they came on the street. I am not familiar with the sibling so I cannot comment on that. Maybe big and his crew were questioning weather or not they should go for the kill at this point
