Bowie wrote: » Careful, it's FG talking about sections of the electorate as supporting bullying and fear for voting elsewhere. FG are the nasty ones here. Would you have public representatives elected by the public, paid and funded by the public take a hands off approach on social issues? That's the sentiment. Anything troublesome or negative is for society to sort out amongst itself or societies own fault going by FG logic. That goes for housing, homelessness, health too. Individuals can only act within the criteria set by their representatives. It must be a grand old thing for FG to concentrate on making money for private concerns, even during a pandemic all the while whinging and complaining anytime the people who fund them and pay their wages had an issue with the way they are doing business. FG need a more severe kick up the hole.
McMurphy wrote: » I believe I have answered this already on the other thread, and don't see any point having the same toing and froing on different threads, so will park it here in this one.
Mortelaro wrote: » Asking for stronger crisis measures and giving out about over generous pre crisis welfare is comparing apples and oranges They are not the same thing One is permanent, one is a temporary crisis response Same question then as in my previous post Where is the irony when they are not the same thing?
McMurphy wrote: » I will add on that I have seen many posters over the years on here screaming about the over generous welfare system in place here, some of them even suggesting the dole should be replaced by food stamps or vouchers. Some of these exact same posters have been online complaining about the 350€ payment nof being enough, questioning how the govt expect them to live on it. It's all well and good until they need to avail of it themselves tbh. I stand over it - irony.
Mortelaro wrote: » That only applies if the state kept nationalising debt after the banking crisis They haven't Ditto coronovirus measures nationalising pay cheques will also end No Irony
McMurphy wrote: » Oh I'm not thinking either - I'm just pointing out how just like nationalising private debt post banking crisis, the irony is lost on some.
Mortelaro wrote: » The Tories have done more in the UK It's a pandemic crisis response Stop thinking it's a policy change or that its sustainabie Its neither
McMurphy wrote: » I swear this is true, I witnessed it with my own eyes this very morning. A poster on another thread has been crowing "that the last thing the country needs right now is left wing governance" They said that in full knowledge of FG nationalising the private hospitals, and introducing fairly generous social welfare payments to those affected by the virus. Seems fairly left wing to me, and credit to fg where it's due, a reasonable response to the unprecedented pandemic. Slow clap for the severe lack of irony on display though. **Facepalm**
Bowie wrote: » Would you have public representatives elected by the public, paid and funded by the public take a hands off approach on social issues? That's the sentiment. Anything troublesome or negative is for society to sort out amongst itself or societies own fault going by FG logic. That goes for housing, homelessness, health too. Individuals can only act within the criteria set by their representatives. It must be a grand old thing for FG to concentrate on making money for private concerns, even during a pandemic all the while whinging and complaining anytime the people who fund them and pay their wages had an issue with the way they are doing business. FG need a more severe kick up the hole.
Mortelaro wrote: » Would you lock up the people who vote for them then? Because that's how they got there Intern them maybe
blanch152 wrote: » Quite possibly the most disingenuous post of the year. The way you abbreviated Varadkar’s statement was quite something, brazen misrepresentation reaches a new low.
landofthetree wrote: » https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/how-alcohol-accounts-for-25pc-of-our-food-spend-39137502.html?__twitter_impression=true FG never tackled the alcohol problem. No wonder our health service is so bad. Full of people with alcohol related illness. 25% of the average household bill is alcohol and people wonder why poverty is such a problem.
efanton wrote: » Seem FG have had a bad week. Same problem as always to much spin and too many empty promises. On thursday Leo claimed there was no evidence of more deaths in nursing homes after it was announced two residents had died in a Portlaoise nursing homehttps://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/varadkar-no-evidence-of-more-covid-19-related-deaths-in-private-nursing-homes-994498.html 12 hours later it is announced that 10 residents died in the last couple of weeks at St Mary's in 'Dublinhttps://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/11-covid-19-related-deaths-at-dublin-care-home-for-elderly-in-past-two-weeks-994551.html Earlier this week Simon Harris said nursing homes were now his number one priority.https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/blatant-discrimination-nursing-homes-ireland-blast-harris-saying-ppe-being-rationed-994800.html Yet today the CEO of Nursing Homes Ireland says they are simply not getting enough PPE. Equally as bad the PPE that nursing homes do get is not funded by the government but instead paid for by the nursing homes, despite the fact that elderly resident with Covid-19 are not being admitted to ICU's but instead dying in nursing homes. You might accept the justification for not tying up ICU beds for those that are unlikely to benefit from them, but to expect nursing home staff to be in direct contact with people with Covid-19 and not have sufficient PPE is disgracefulhttps://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/blatant-discrimination-nursing-homes-ireland-blast-harris-saying-ppe-being-rationed-994800.html
ThunbergsAreGo wrote: Most people don't go out, get black out drunk and end up in A&E because there is an FG government. The problem with drink is a problem I can't see any government changing, they can help, but it will take decades, it's a culture thing. There is an Irish acceptance of it for the most part.
Bowie wrote: » This is the surreal attitude of the FG'er. Somehow public representatives, funded by the tax payer are separate from people and society. Such people have no business being in any public office.
Simon Harris says the health service is doing "relatively well" when it comes to getting PPE for healthcare workers.
blanch152 wrote: » It’s a fair point, you asked for proof that someone worked for years in the fuel industry while elsewhere you said that you were a self-employed professional paying loads of tax. I don’t believe the latter so where is your proof. Sauce for the geese and all that.
atticu wrote: » I worked in the fuel industry in Ireland for more than 15 years. We had many unmarked fuel trucks, and they even delivered to the opposition. You seem to be making claims that you can’t back up.Please back up your claims with proof.
Otherwise, see below. I used to sell crystal blue water which I personally had sucked up using my own mouth and a straw from the southern Atlantic to nomads in the deserts of Yemen. The wife used to work in Chivers shaving the hairs of gooseberries so they could make gooseberry jam.
McMurphy wrote: » I see we have moved on from me "contradicting myself" to you just short of asking for ID and a bank statement or a tax clearance cert. Weird. Don't lie, you quite obviously do give a ****, as I said earlier you have developed a bit of an auld infatuation of my posts, yeah I'm flattered and all but happily married - sorry about that. What rules would these be? Please share. How do you think you might be coming across to ordinary Joe soaps looking on btw? Not a good look tbh. Bit incoherent and prone to rambling. Tut tut.
atticu wrote: » Can you back up your claim that that you are a self employed professional, what work you do and exactly how much tax you pay. Please do so with proof of the profession, your qualifications, and how much tax you pay. This is information that you have volunteered, therefore you need to back it up.
I actually don’t give a ****,
but apparently these are your rules.
ThunbergsAreGo wrote: » Why can't people be accountable for their own actions? We have very high alcohal pricing and people still drink too much. Sometimes it's on people and society to change.
McMurphy wrote: » Can you back up you worked in a fuel company for 15 years? Please do so with proof. Otherwise, see below. I used to sell crystal blue water which I personally had sucked up using my own mouth and a straw from the southern Atlantic to nomads in the deserts of Yemen. The wife used to work in Chivers shaving the hairs of gooseberries so they could make gooseberry jam.
McMurphy wrote: » I am a self employed professional, I pay tax, quite a lot of it, might I add. .
Shefwedfan wrote: » Maybe if I say it again it might sink in. I am not a FG supporter. If you dont believe me check with Maria Bailey thread etc I am just calling out a load of waffle when I see it......as normal on boards its start with vague personal attacks
Bass Reeves wrote: » On the local Supervalue last couple of day went past the drink section. What amazed me was the spirits shelves were absolutely filled with every type of drink, whiskey's, gins, vodkas, bicardi and other rums every type of sport with every price range catered for. Virtually none was on special offers. Never saw the shelves as full hardly even at Christmas. Wine, cans and slabs were nearly below normal stock. Was really surprised.
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