Mardy Bum wrote: » This will be the best preparation any 6th year ever got for college if they plan on attending. Real experience of independent learning. May save lots from dropping out in the middle of first year.
Chaya Fresh Shoehorn wrote: » The reality that just about every course requires learning material that is dull, mundane, unexciting, and seemingly irrelevant (to their specific narrow interest), comes as a great shock to them.
Chaya Fresh Shoehorn wrote: » https://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/leaving-cert-must-be-abandoned-to-ease-nations-stress-in-testing-times-39134861.html I thought you would all appreciate the opportunity to read the thoughts of our much loved and esteemed favourite former Minister, Ruairi Quinn - that renowned champion of fairness and equality of opportunity in education. He thinks the exams should be cancelled. An argument for ploughing ahead with them if ever I heard one.
Treppen wrote: » Next we'll have Bertie in the kitchen cabinet speaking about the Leaving Cert.
km79 wrote: » Really hoping for some more information before we return on Monday
rainbowtrout wrote: » Not every school does tests/mocks. Students that repeat externally/mature students sitting Leaving Cert wouldn't have any grades to go on.
TheValeyard wrote: » Management told us to expect emails on Monday with a plan.
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » Other graded work could be used for this very small percentage of students....as I said, the idea is deeply flawed.I still think it's an idea that will become more credible with every passing week.
TheValeyard wrote: » the ultra expensive international school that doesnt even do a leaving cert?
ooter wrote: » i'd love to hear more about this?
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » Would 80% of students/parents tear your arms from your shoulder sockets if you offered it to them right now? Absolutely.
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » Every school has a computer record of these exams.
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » It completely removes any accusation of teacher bias that undermines the ‘predictive’ grade idea.
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » Yes, people will point out the myriad flaws, but this won’t result in dunces becoming doctors or geniuses missing the boat...Once the inevitable hullabaloo dies down, do you think anyone will be talking about this solution in three years time?
rainbowtrout wrote: » Actually you didn't say that. In one of your more recent posts you said that your daughter couldn't get a job because she didn't have a LC. It was implied from your first post that your daughter intended on going to college. It makes no difference to me if you daughter goes to college or goes working. But it is a bit astonishing that you were suggesting that students who are going to go straight into the world of work after school be given a Leaving Cert that amounted to a certificate of attendance and then followed it up with the fact that your daughter can't get a job without a Leaving Cert. This is the point I was trying to make. A student will need their Leaving Cert even if they aren't going to college. The jobs market is competitive and LC is seen as the most basic qualification these days. There are lots of students like your daughter (health issues aside) that find it hard to be motivated and are finding it difficult now. Teachers on here are largely in agreement that whatever solution is presented is that it be as fair as possible on students. Mock results are not fair, predicted grades are not fair. The actual LC exam is fair in that it's anonymous and it represents what the student was able to do in the exam. You might not be able to sit down and teach your daughter at home, but even sitting down and going through what resources are available to her and helping her get some little bit of work done might be useful. Even if it is setting her a small target for doing a couple of exam questions each day. We have no idea where we will be in a month's time let alone August but the exams probably will go ahead in August to try and get as many students through the LC and out working/college etc. It might be worth sitting down with her and having a chat about it in the greater scheme of things. As she does have a health issue that would put her at risk if she was to contract corona virus when more details are provided by the Dept - that would be the time to find out from the school if she would be able to sit her exams in a special centre on her own. Then you will know how to proceed.
Iamabeliever wrote: » Is there any point in having state exams this year. What one year? Like just send them to do a trade or hair dressing course. Couldn't hurt
TheDriver wrote: » Why stop there, conscription could be a suitable suggestion. Or fruit picking.
Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: » One assumes the situation right at this moment is that all schools are closed until at least 5th of May?
km79 wrote: » Teachers assumed the days they were working are being counted as days of work. The government have changed the language they used with implications they are not. There are 6 weeks of our normal school year. I asked for clarification that this work is being counted. I have received none. But sure it will be grand . Why wouldn't we just plough on in hope and trust them
Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: » Is that a yes or a no?