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Hi I've been thinking it'd be nice to have a thread where simple questions that people don't want to create a thread for, could go. Or any chat related to detailing.

I've a question. If I've put a wax on, then a sealant. Then after a few weeks or w/e I'm thinking the shine isn't what it was. (After washing obviously) Can I apply wax on top of whatever sealant and wax is left from the first time, or do I have to remove the remaining sealant + wax first?

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Black_Knight

Nigzcurran wrote: »

That was curran? No relation!

Ah. Bingo! Thanks. Curran still doing business?

Nigzcurran

Black_Knight wrote: »

Is Cullen car care anything to do with Cullen here on boards? Didn't he have a different named site a few years back?(if it's the same guy)

That was curran? No relation!

Gumbo

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

If I wasn't applying a fallout remover yeah but when I do I'll apply it to the wheels first while they're dry, then rinse off.

Using an old bottle of Carpro reset that I got from detailing shed as a shampoo. Love how little I need to use per bucket but wondering if should buy another one or change for something better value. Was thinking of something from the Autobrite range.

The reset and the reload are supposed to be super products.

Black_Knight

Northern Monkey wrote: »

Has anyone used Cullen car care before? I’m 120 miles from my normal cleaning gear so not getting near that any time soon and don’t have access to water or electric in the apartment so thinking about trying ONR and see they stock it.

Is Cullen car care anything to do with Cullen here on boards? Didn't he have a different named site a few years back?(if it's the same guy)

Sexual Chocolate

If I wasn't applying a fallout remover yeah but when I do I'll apply it to the wheels first while they're dry, then rinse off.

Using an old bottle of Carpro reset that I got from detailing shed as a shampoo. Love how little I need to use per bucket but wondering if should buy another one or change for something better value. Was thinking of something from the Autobrite range.

vectra

I prefer to pressure rinse my wheels before washing them,

Sexual Chocolate

Here's another youtube detailer that I follow from Canada. Love the set up he has, quite similar to Pan the Organiser in fact but my only gripe with his work is that he passes remark in a lot of his videos about dirt being hard to shift when hosing the cars down but yet he doesn't go at them with a snow foam or pre wash first.

The extractor he uses are great things and not too expensive either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc6fZ_J1vbc

Gumbo

Obviously don’t forget to rinse off in between steps.
Claying. Any clay bar is fine or a clay mitt. The mitts are more expensive but more user friendly. Have a mixture of car shampoo/water for lubrication or any QD but the QD will be more expensive as you apply lubrications very generously.

I personally don’t dress any trim, partly because there’s no much of it anymore and partly because I’ve no trim dressing so that would be next on my
List with nexts now the spare money.

I use Reflect tyre shine. I spray on and rub in with the tyre sponge to remove any excess. I like a clean Matt colour opposed to the gloss wet look.

Debub

thanks for your answers guys, so:

Steps 1-10
1. Wheels, tyres and arches = eg BH Auto Wheels
2. Shampoo/foam etc = eg BH Foam/Shampoo
3. Decontaminate = BH Korossol
4. Tar removal = CarPro Tar X
5. Clay = any clay bar (is there any 'types')?
6. Polish = so this is different from protection I guess, any recommended product please?
7. Protect = eg Gtechniq C2V3
8. Glass = Gtechniq G1/G2?
9. Tyres and trim = any recommended product please?
10. Exhaust Tips = any recommended product please?

Thanks

Gumbo

Steps 1-10
1. Wheels, tyres and arches.
2. Shampoo/foam etc
3. Decontaminate
4. Tar removal
5. Clay
6. Polish
7. Protect
8. Glass
9. Tyres and trim
10. Exhaust Tips

Seen this from Larry Kehoe on FB.

Gumbo

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You're right in a way, claying should always be done before machine polishing but machine polishing isn't always done after claying. Lots of people clay their car every 6 months and don't machine polish. Use a good lubricant (like Dodo Juice Born Slippy) and it'll be fine.

Agree.
Or have a dedicated small Spray bottle have have a mix of good quality car shampoo and water in it to keep the costs down on using quick detailer.

vectra

Damo 2k9 wrote: »

This is something in which I Was going to ask in the beginners thread. I am really interested in applying something along the lines of Fusso Coat over the next couple of months, I understand the paint should be contaminant free so a clay bar would be used, but using a clay bar would leave the paint 'marred'.

With me not having access to a machine polisher, is it possible to correct the marred paint with a hand polish? I have Autoglym Super Resin polish already, no clue if its any use for this use case!

You are correct
Paint should be perfect ( as perfect as possible )prior to application of Fusso, IF you want the durability.

Decon
detar
Clay >> Use plenty of lubricant and more than you need to help the claybar glide over the paint, I have never had any marring from claying, just take it easy and use loads of lube as I said, and dont lean on the clay, let it do the work,

You could give any parks you may get a polish with srp, BUT I just prefer to apply Fusso to clean bare paint.

PsychoPete

I've some Tardis and Reflect Auto Care but they can damage plastic trim, been using KKD Tartastic for a while now. Find it pretty good, it's a gel so get a good amount of dwell time

high horse

What is the best tar remover currently available? I worked my way through a 5 litre drum of tardis over the last few years and now I need some more, I'm just wondering what is available or go with tardis again.

Wailin

Similar price with D&D detailing and you'll have them in 2 days.

Northern Monkey

Duff wrote: »

Anyone used Slims Detailing before? Need to pick up some more green hex logic pads and they have them at a decent price..

I used them recently for a fairly big order and found them spot on. Delivered in 2 days (to NI).

Duff

Anyone used Slims Detailing before? Need to pick up some more green hex logic pads and they have them at a decent price..

Sexual Chocolate

vectra wrote: »

Here you go > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Autobrite-Direct-Heavy-Duty-Snow-Foam-Lance-Karcher-Fitting-K-Series-K4-K5/323864937692?epid=18034415061&hash=item4b67dac4dc:g:AHIAAOSwy1ZdSWI5&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId

Didn't order that one but ordered another one that also comes with 500ml AB snow foam for an extra £5 via Parcel motel. Should hopefully have it by Wednesday. Looking forward to using it.

Northern Monkey

Has anyone used Cullen car care before? I’m 120 miles from my normal cleaning gear so not getting near that any time soon and don’t have access to water or electric in the apartment so thinking about trying ONR and see they stock it.

Damo 2k9

This is something in which I Was going to ask in the beginners thread. I am really interested in applying something along the lines of Fusso Coat over the next couple of months, I understand the paint should be contaminant free so a clay bar would be used, but using a clay bar would leave the paint 'marred'.

With me not having access to a machine polisher, is it possible to correct the marred paint with a hand polish? I have Autoglym Super Resin polish already, no clue if its any use for this use case!

punisher5112

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You're right in a way, claying should always be done before machine polishing but machine polishing isn't always done after claying. Lots of people clay their car every 6 months and don't machine polish. Use a good lubricant (like Dodo Juice Born Slippy) and it'll be fine.

Also don't press hard and keep an eye for grit build up on the bar....

[Deleted User]

You're right in a way, claying should always be done before machine polishing but machine polishing isn't always done after claying. Lots of people clay their car every 6 months and don't machine polish. Use a good lubricant (like Dodo Juice Born Slippy) and it'll be fine.

Debub

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

"Protection" means wax, sealant etc. You should clay the car as soon as you can otherwise any protection (such as the Turtle Wax you mentioned) is being applied to the bonded contaminants and it never lasts as long or gives proper beading. You need to remove these contaminants and allow the protection to bond to the clean paint. This will allow the protection to work better and last longer.

I would however bin the Turtle Wax and use a product such as Gtechniq C2V3 instead. Same idea; spray on, spread with a cloth and buff with a separate cloth.

thanks - but I have a question because I am a bit confused. Someone I knew who used to do detailing in UK had told me that I should try and avoid claying a car (especially on black paint) as Clay will always scratch the paint. Only do it (very carefully) if I am getting it machine polished immediately after - is that correct?

The only reason that I haven't used Clay till now is that I am scared of scratching the paint

[Deleted User]

"Protection" means wax, sealant etc. You should clay the car as soon as you can otherwise any protection (such as the Turtle Wax you mentioned) is being applied to the bonded contaminants and it never lasts as long or gives proper beading. You need to remove these contaminants and allow the protection to bond to the clean paint. This will allow the protection to work better and last longer.

I would however bin the Turtle Wax and use a product such as Gtechniq C2V3 instead. Same idea; spray on, spread with a cloth and buff with a separate cloth.

Debub

PsychoPete wrote: »

Do you have any protection on the car ? Normally takes me a few minutes and one towel to dry the car. Trying to dry an unprotected car is a bit of a pain

sorry absolutely newbie - so not sure what 'protection' actually means. When I had bought the car it was nice and shiny, great beading. But my daily commute is a 100 km round rip on back roads and the car gets mucky the very next day that I wash it. I used the 'Turtle Wax Sealant Hyrdrophobic' in October, looks like that has now washed off, no beading at all these days. I don't seem to get the car clean enough to apply it again. I have now bought a snow foam attachment for my pressure washer and will be using foam/shampoo/fall out moreover/De-Tar etc to see how better I get on. Till now I was only doing 2 bucket shampoo and pressure wash. Hopefully will be get enough confidence to use a clay bar sometime this summer as the car looks like it needs one. Thanks for reading and replying - this is all quite fascinating

vectra

PsychoPete wrote: »

Maybe a pump sprayer and pre wash might be better option

Exactly what I was about to suggest.

[Deleted User]

Peter T wrote: »

That bad ? I wasn't expecting anything on par with the lance but surely could build enough foam to help lift the dirt before washing ?

The first and last time I used one attached directly to a garden hose was years ago and it was pretty bad. The stuff just dribbled from the nozzle. I used Meguiars Hyper Wash which worked perfectly in a proper lance.

The one below is a "proper" one whereas the one I used was a cheap plastic yoke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORPaq92_Z8Q

Peter T

Just found what I needed. Thanks PsychoPete

PsychoPete

Peter T wrote: »

That bad ? I wasn't expecting anything on par with the lance but surely could build enough foam to help lift the dirt before washing ?

Maybe a pump sprayer and pre wash might be better option

Northern Monkey

Wailin wrote: »

Went to make an account with detailingworld recently and they refused me! Gave a list of possible reasons of which none applied to me. Weird!

I’ve had the same thing but got sorted today by sending them a message on Facebook. Search for “detailing world page”