The examples the company cited include "promoting a phony miracle cure for a serious illness, claiming the earth is flat, or making blatantly false claims about historic events like 9/11."
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » That's also not true. You provide the pre-war population stats for European Jews and then we debate from that point. You claim right now my stats are wrong.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I show why I Am not lying. This is the stats I use
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » So that's how they arrived at six million Jewish people killed during the holocust period!
King Mob wrote: » You aren't "using" the stats. You aren't actually doing research. That's a lie cheerful.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Reality is you believe the 6 million all got killed by gassing and death squads during the period of 1941 to 1945.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » The Jewish people must have supernatural powers to survive WW2 events and nobody from that faith emigrated to other countries during period 1933 to 1940, funny that.
King Mob wrote: » And this is a lie too cheerful. That's not what I believe.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » It is what you believe though
King Mob wrote: » No, you are misrepresenting what I believe.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » So the six million not accurate then:rolleyes:
King Mob wrote: » I didn't say that either. I believe what most trained, informed historians believe that 6 million Jewish people and about 5 million other people were killed by the Nazis.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I can't believe what I am observing, you mad person. I provided a holocaust memorial screenshot showing the actual numbers. Now you disagree about the numbers, yes?
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » It's is your belief the 6 million all got rounded up by Nazis and killed by shootings and gassing (during 1941 to 1945) end of story.
King Mob wrote: » Nope. I never said that. And again, that is not accurate.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » The census from 1933 is not disputed 9.5 million Jewish people lived in Europe in 1933. After the war 3.5 million were left. The memorial claim the 6 million were murdered because of the holocust. The stats don't lie. It's is your belief the 6 million all got rounded up by Nazis and killed by shootings and gassing (during 1941 to 1945) end of story.
Dohnjoe wrote: » That's not the view Why do you keep making this false claim? It's like you are deliberately sabotaging any semblance of a debate here in order to go around in circles of your own making As mentioned, if you want this explained to you, I am willing to explain, as long as you are willing to engage normally and reasonably.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » How is false claim Dohnjoe? There was 9.5 Jewish people in Europe and Soviet union in 1933. Do you think there are missing millions?
Dohnjoe wrote: » For the third time, I am willing to explain. But you have to engage normally and be reasonable Okay?
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » 9.5- 3.5= 6 million.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » It is your claim but just will not admit it.
King Mob wrote: » Yes. That is correct. 6 million Jewish people were killed by the Nazis. It's not though. You're misrepresenting things again.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Nothing stopping you from replying. You don't need me to tell you to go ahead.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » That not the claim Kingmob. The claim is 6 million were killed during the holocaust (a period from 1941 to 1945)
Dohnjoe wrote: » Yes I do You are being completely irrational. When you are willing to actually listen (read) what someone has to say, let me know It's pretty straightforward, most people can manage it.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I not though. QuoteThe Holocaust, also known as the Shoah, was the World War II genocide of the European Jews. Between 1941 and 1945, across German-occupied Europe, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews, around two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population The claim is 6 million were not affected by anything else going on in the world between 1933 to 41, and nazis rounded up the 6 million and murdered them. By any stretch of the imagination doesn't add up.
King Mob wrote: » But again, if you believe that your research (Which involves one document and one bit of basic math) is so air tight, go publish it in a historical journal. Go tell the trained historians at the various holocaust museums to update their numbers.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I not though.
Dohnjoe wrote: » It's a simple question Are you willing to be rational and engage normally? If yes, then I will explain Holocaust figures and basic background of it to you
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Jewish scholars already disagree about the numbers. Remember i posted a prominent one who wrote about it and he believes the true number about 4.2 to 4.5 million. That's 1.7 million less than what's reported today. That's a big drop-off.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Six million doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Maybe 3 million is too low? 4 million is not awful, gives room for others things to have occurred.
King Mob wrote: » Yes. 70 years ago. But it does make sense. It's the number accepted by most historians. You just don't understand and don't want to understand because you are a holocaust denier. Lol jesus...:rolleyes:
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » You can't do basic math and think six million Jews lived in a cocoon for 8 years, just silliness.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » You be posting that for the last hour. Just go ahead with the big revelation and we see what you have.
Dohnjoe wrote: » There's no "big revelation", and it's not "see what I have" - it's basic history, you can open any textbook or reference book on this The first thing you need to do is stop thinking information like this is "personal" - it isn't. There's no tricks to any of this either, its straight-forward stuff. To start off with, you've made a change recently, to a slightly better viewpoint (albeit quite outdated), Reitlinger. Have you read his book "The Final Solution"? If not, that's alright, but do you know how he put those estimates (4.2 to 4.5 million) together? He's fundamentally doing it the same way modern historians are.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Yes, I read some pages of his book, last year.. free copies online. I had a glimpse again at his book. The near six million wiped out was the number the World Jewish Congress provided to the Nuremberg trial. He considers its overestimation because there was little trustworthy data available to affirm that six million number after the war He stresses an Anglo-American group inquiry regarding the problems of European Jews and Palestine claimed 5.8 million Jewish dead in 1946. There was a political outside influence angle of engagement to enlarge the number. Based on his own research, some claims they made about the missing European Jews are sound and other claims he says are false! He argued it was a sloppy way of determining Jews deaths, as they just placed it down as six million because that’s the amount of Jewish people missing from their former countries of residence! Plus he mentioned the Soviet Union information about Jewish deaths is suspect and can’t be depended on. He also thinks many of the Polish Jews retreated to the Soviet union- as far away as (Siberia) and many died from, natural illness, Typhus, hunger and winter, and war and many Jews got caught up and died during the battle of Stalingrad and separate assaults on Soviet Cities... They were unregistered survivors in a foreign country and forgotten.. These deaths laid at the door of the final solution incorrect. Polish numbers are most difficult to calculate because of the war yet he put it down at 2 million + He mentioned Emigration and other things, but i be here all day if i wrote up everything he said. I just took just one screenshot to show he calculated at the end.
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