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Off Topic Thread 4.0

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Buer

Honestly, we're lucky that the weather is incredibly good at the moment of that figure could be significantly higher.

Panda Killa

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

I know a few on here were talking about struggling a little in the last few weeks. The indo has a story about research carried out by a number of the universities which suggests that about a quarter of us are experiencing depression or depression like symptoms at the moment.

I would say a quarter is a very conservative figure tbh

Rigor Mortis

I know a few on here were talking about struggling a little in the last few weeks. The indo has a story about research carried out by a number of the universities which suggests that about a quarter of us are experiencing depression or depression like symptoms at the moment.

Rigor Mortis

Buer wrote: »

Some don ludicrous amounts of lycra, purchase a bike worth more than my car and go out for 50km bike rides irritating every driver for miles. Some hit the golf course.

Scuba is the way to go. Neoprene is even less flattering than lycra. We've seen less of the sea than the moon. The peace is like nothing you will ever experience.

Podge_irl

Buer wrote: »

Some don ludicrous amounts of lycra, purchase a bike worth more than my car and go out for 50km bike rides irritating every driver for miles. Some hit the golf course.

50km is more of a warm up...

pickarooney

Squidgy Black wrote: »

My aul lad decided about 5 years ago to do something similar with our small back garden, pave over the whole lot of it to save himself the hassle.

Except he decided to consult my ma, which lead to Indian sand stone being put down. Which turns out needs about as much maintenance as grass, because it stains and goes green if not thoroughly powerwashed weekly, and has to be resealed and grouted fairly regularly.

Green stone sounds like the perfect compromise

[Deleted User]

I'm going to plug my brain directly into online gaming in my twilight years. The nurses will have to clean me up while I'll be elsewhere arguing with 12 year olds.

Squidgy Black

My aul lad decided about 5 years ago to do something similar with our small back garden, pave over the whole lot of it to save himself the hassle.

Except he decided to consult my ma, which lead to Indian sand stone being put down. Which turns out needs about as much maintenance as grass, because it stains and goes green if not thoroughly powerwashed weekly, and has to be resealed and grouted fairly regularly.

Buer

I think gardening/vegetable growing is something people get into when they're looking to involve their spare time in something productive and active after their hell raising years are over. Everyone tends to have a void. We all know some who continue to focus on socialising, downing pints etc. It's rarely the best path although each to their own.

Some don ludicrous amounts of lycra, purchase a bike worth more than my car and go out for 50km bike rides irritating every driver for miles. Some hit the golf course.

Jaco, you've had a rather interesting life probably much more so than many between your work, rugby and music. I imagine that void has been filled for you quite comfortably over the years hence gardening can take a running jump for you. You can relax knowing you've done a lot already and have plenty more to occupy your time. I hear that Mike Gibson is often asked on rugby forums about the time he played with jacothelad.

Many blokes will end up turning to the garden or the shed as their point of comfort. I've already hit that point, sad b*stard that I am. The kids take up a huge amount of my time and I'm very happy with that but that will stop in the next decade as they grow up, alas. I'm already eyeing up the shed as a project over the next few years for a proper man cave. Of course the wife has not heard of these plans yet....gotta play the long game on that one.

jacothelad

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Thats my kind of gardening. Going to do a complete overhaul of the backyard this summer. I plan on paving it and having a few low maintenance plants around the edges. She wanted to have some lawn, until I pointed out that she would have to mow it. Then the lawn became pointless and unnecessary.

When we were downsizing in 2016 we made a list of things we didn't want. We lived in a 5,000 sq ft 3 story Victorian villa with big grounds. We wanted a modern single story house with a small garden. WE bought a 3,000 sq ft two story house with two huge gardens with lawns thw size of football fields. I woulds happily concrete the lot. I really don't want to spend my declining years digging, weeding, cutting, dumping stuff, trailing the bride around garden centres and buying f'kin pergolas and bedding plants etc.

There was a large fruit tree garden and a huge vegetable patch. Now happily covered in 608 flagstones...:D:D:D Mrs Jacko wasn't happy...:p

b.gud

Synode wrote: »

Anyone else use wall plugs to hard wire internet connections to a computer? My wired (via wall plugs) Virgin internet drops occasionally on my desktop. Switch to Wifi, no issues. Then wired comes back within a minute or so. Happens a lot lately and I'm wondering is the issue the wall plugs or the router. It use to do it on my previous computer a lot too but that didn't have WiFi so wasn't able to switch and continue.

I got rid of home plugs a while ago and while I try to figure out the best way to get cat6 cabling running to the top story of the house I'm using a wi-fi repeater system with a couple of routers running OpebWRT and it is far more reliable, and provides better speed, than home plugs

jacothelad

Podge_irl wrote: »

I think, to be more precise, we produce enough food, its just not the food we are necessarily used to subsisting on.

Mind you, I may have to survive on gruyere cheese for the foreseeable.

Grilled Gruyere and turnip toast.......:D:D:D ...or garden snails in a Gruyere sauce.

jacothelad

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Anyone see the absolute shíte McGregor's been tweeting? He had a go at Stenaline as if it was their fault the borders weren't closed, and that we should only be allowing deliveries of medical supplies and nothing else, that we can survive off Irish grown produce and other supplies.

It's mad how some people's coke fuelled rants have such a reach and gain support of so many.

He sounds like someone who has had too many blows to a completely empty head.

swiwi_

At times like this, the off-topic thread is great value.

I for one will drink a toast to Ugo Monye Spacecraft Experience.

Neil3030

And just to add, this is what makes Covid 19 such an absolute ****er. Other diseases like SARS, the infectiousness is strongest 7-10 days after you see symptoms, so you can safely quarantine patients and avoid spread. With Covid-19, people probably did most of their spreading before they knew they were patients.

Neil3030

Deleted User wrote: »

I did not understand that abstract. Could you elaborate a bit more?

They did two analyses. In the first, they took 94 patients who presented with Covid at a hospital in China, and swabbed their throats 3 to 4 times per person over the next month. The highest "viral load" (concentration of the virus in a tested sample) was at symptom onset. So you have the most bullets in the chamber, so to speak, when you start noticing symptoms.

The other analysis were mathematical models of publicly available data from around the world. The data specifically related to transmission pairs; these are pairs of people where they know person B got it from person A. (Carefully controlled, for time, so like a cab driver and passenger, so you can be sure what day the infection was passed on).

For each pair, you note when did person A come into contact with person B, and when did they both start showing symptoms. You do this for all the pairs, the mathematical model can figure out when people are most infective. And in this case, they estimate that actually people peak just before they show symptoms. So in other words, in the most cases of pairs, person B came into contact with person A just before person A started showing symptoms.

Former Former

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I did not understand that abstract. Could you elaborate a bit more?

You are most infectious before you start to show symptoms.

[Deleted User]

Neil3030 wrote: »

Good news!

People showing no symptoms whatsoever are probably the biggest threat!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5

I did not understand that abstract. Could you elaborate a bit more?

Zzippy

swiwi_ wrote: »

Looking at the CV figures, I’m not convinced Ireland is really doing any better than the UK TBH. Just saying.

Context is important. UK is only reporting deaths in hospital where the patient has a confirmed positive test. Deaths where test results Not back prior to death Not included. Not reporting deaths in care homes or the community as CV. Also testing far fewer so the positive cases is a huge under-representation of actual spread.

Bazzo

swiwi_ wrote: »

Looking at the CV figures, I’m not convinced Ireland is really doing any better than the UK TBH. Just saying.

Which figures?

Neil3030

Good news!

People showing no symptoms whatsoever are probably the biggest threat!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5

Synode

Their deaths per 1m is 190. Ours is 90.

Buer

swiwi_ wrote: »

Looking at the CV figures, I’m not convinced Ireland is really doing any better than the UK TBH. Just saying.

The figures need context. We are testing greater numbers per head of population which will always lead to a higher infection rate. The more indicative figure is the death rate to date. The UK is running at around 13% currently compared to about 3.9% here. Their population is about 13.5 times ours but they've seen 30 times the number of deaths.

Squidgy Black

They're expecting our backlog to be cleared by the end of this week. That'll be a huge turning point in getting more accurate numbers alongside the drive to test as much as needed rather than hitting targets etc.

As of yesterday it was 7.4 deaths per 100k in Ireland, and 17 per 100k in the UK. We've been testing at twice the rate of the UK also, we're at around 56 tests per 100k whereas the UK have reached a high of 28 per 100k today.

Dave_The_Sheep

And a question of what deaths are being included in which figures.

[Deleted User]

swiwi_ wrote: »

Looking at the CV figures, I’m not convinced Ireland is really doing any better than the UK TBH. Just saying.

It's possible but I think what we're seeing is a reflection of how each jurisdiction is testing and reporting more than anything else at this point.

swiwi_

Looking at the CV figures, I’m not convinced Ireland is really doing any better than the UK TBH. Just saying.

Synode

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Are they the Virgin ones? We ended up scrapping two sets we were using and running cat5e throughout the house in the past couple of weeks. Horrible interference lately (presumably due to the amount of devices being used in the house all the time). It's a pain in the arse running the cable (in our case we had to do it outdoors as well) and terminating them, but it's well worth it to save the hassle and headache

No they're decent TP-Link ones. Not too bothered as we're in a rented place at the minute. We've just got planning to build a house so will be running Ethernet cables everywhere.

Counting our blessings on the timing of us selling our last place (closed last July). We got shafted last recession stuck in an apartment raising a family. Soon as we got a sniff of the possibility of building a house we threw it up for sale to make sure we'd cash in the bank. Sold it for a minuscule amount less than we'd bought it for in 2004. Can only imagine what they'll be going for in the next few months.

Panda Killa

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Interesting point there molloy. I very experimental and adventurous when it comes to food. I agree that pork marinated in cider and then grilled on the bbq is tasty. However I'm not the sort of moron who will then drink pork flavoured cider

Ooooh !!

molloyjh

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Interesting point there molloy. I very experimental and adventurous when it comes to food. I agree that pork marinated in cider and then grilled on the bbq is tasty. However I'm not the sort of moron who will then drink pork flavoured cider

But....but....but.....

Nope, I've got nothing.