dundalkfc10 wrote: » So basically FF who stated they would not enter a govt with FG before the election to get more votes are now going into govt with Fag It was very obvious from the start of elections it was a FG/FF election to do anything to stop Sinn Féin The working class will get super ****ed now after all the money we will owe back, the rich not to much as per
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » The top 5% of earners in Ireland pay 60% of the tax intake. 900,000 low earners pay none at all. Away with your waffle.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » I'm talking about the hundreds and thousands like myself and girlfriend earning 30,000 paying over 1300 a month rent, childcare near 1000 a month just so we can both work. That's and that's not before you start on bills etc.. How are we ever meant to save for a mortgage Away with your waffle So does Michael Martin lying about his election promises not matter? I also see on new govt formation, their is very little mention of the homeless crisis. Shock
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Paying rent and childcare has nothing to do with austerity. I'm sure there is a lot of high earners paying the exact same as you in rent and childcare.
[Deleted User] wrote: » God help us the new government isnt even formed yet and FG arrogance,dismissal and pissing all over of poor has begun already To think people were genuinely suprised and wondering why people.are voting shinnerz in droves, :pac:
dundalkfc10 wrote: » What I stated was working class will get screwed. You havnt answered my questions on Michael Martin? Would FF voters now not be raging that one reasons they voted he has just ignored
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Care to dispute my figures? Play the ball..
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » I hate Michael Martin and FF. I'm not happy about this arrangement. Should have been FF and SF with FG in opposition.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Are you happy with Leo saying this before the election and now backtrackinghttps://twitter.com/JoeEDwyer/status/1250127712376807431?s=19
blanch152 wrote: » How many times does it has to be explained to you that FF and FG only have 72 seats between them, there are 87 other votes available for Mary-Lou, yet she can't get any of them.
efanton wrote: » Actually not true Taxation is not just income tax. The lower paid pay proportionately more in all the other taxes and levies when you compare take home pay to what these taxes take. Would that mean that the top 5% pay significantly more tax in total? yes but I doubt it is close to the 60% you claim. In fat the CSO would agree with me Total income tax collected 2017 €84,138.85 Million after deductions Those earning 100k or more account for 6.7% of all cases in 2017 paying €19,217.94 million after deductions 2017 All Persons Gross income 100,000 to 150,000 Number of Income Cases (Number) 95,613 Percentage of the Total Number of Income Cases (%) 3.88 Gross Income Charged (Million) 11,394.24 Percentage of the Total Gross Income Charged (%) 11.45 Tax Deducted (Million) 2,690.34 Percentage of the Total Tax Deducted (%) 17.49 150,000 to 200,000 Number of Income Cases (Number) 26,402 Percentage of the Total Number of Income Cases (%) 1.07 Gross Income Charged (Million) 4,506.20 Percentage of the Total Gross Income Charged (%) 4.53 Tax Deducted (Million) 1,241.81 Percentage of the Total Tax Deducted (%) 8.07 200,000 to 275,000 Number of Income Cases (Number) 14,196 Percentage of the Total Number of Income Cases (%) 0.58 Gross Income Charged (Million) 3,280.16 Percentage of the Total Gross Income Charged (%) 3.30 Tax Deducted (Million) 984.83 Percentage of the Total Tax Deducted (%) 6.40 275,000 and over Number of Income Cases (Number) 14,060 Percentage of the Total Number of Income Cases (%) 0.57 Gross Income Charged (Million) 7,412.22 Percentage of the Total Gross Income Charged (%) 7.45 Tax Deducted (Million) 2,457.90 Percentage of the Total Tax Deducted (%) 15.98 Link to CSO stats if you want to check it out for yourself.https://statbank.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=RVA01&PLanguage=0
FrancieBrady wrote: » You mean she is not going to buy them with surreptitious little deals under tables with independents.
blanch152 wrote: » They all got elected on a get FG out platform, yet Mary-Lou doesn't have the wit to bring them together, there is no getting away from that.
blanch152 wrote: » 48% of income tax is paid by those earning over 100k. I don't buy the argument that "the lower paid pay proportionately more in all the other taxes and levies when you compare take home pay to what these taxes take" Basic necesseties are exempt from VAT and a greater proportion of income is spent on those goods by the less well off. DIRT is another tax that is paid by the wealthy not the poor, ditto Stamp Duty, CAT and CGT. That leaves you with excise duties. Your argument boils down to poor people drinking and smoking more than wealthy people so they pay more tax.
Topgear on Dave wrote: » In fairness now, I think they've changed their minds on the get them out thing.
landofthetree wrote: » FFS she can't even convince the Greens,SDs,Lab to back her nevermind the indos
Suckit wrote: » Facts will come out, the spin will fade, and when this is eventually finished FG and FF will get greedy again. Leopard, spots etc.
Suckit wrote: » I wouldn't be so cocksure about that. For a small window Leo looked impressive to the people that forgot the last time he looked like that was also when he had his spin back. Facts will come out, the spin will fade, and when this is eventually finished FG and FF will get greedy again. Leopard, spots etc.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Leo will suck back votes because he convinced a **** hot speech writer back to work for him basically. He has fooled people here and will get a bounce but it will only be a bounce. Let them at it I say. End the power swap once and for all.
Idbatterim wrote: » A **** hot speech ? Come on ! Like it was fine , I was in glasnevin cemetery on the tour and they re-enacted a speech from an Irish freedom fighter , would make hairs on back of your neck stand up , what varadkar delivered was generic speech 101
FrancieBrady wrote: » Oh I agree..it was emotive nonsense with a few Heaney quotes. I meant '**** hot' in the sense that it fooled people into thinking this was a mobilised changed Taoiseach doing what he was born to do - save the county.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » According to the Irish Tax Institute, the top quartile of earners in Ireland pays more than 80% of the total income tax and USC; the top 1% (incomes over €200,000) pay over a quarter of income tax and USC. A person earning €100,000 already pays twelve times more personal tax than someone earning €25,000. Successive budgets in recent years have removed an increasing number of income earners from the USC net. In 2015, 23% of the personal tax take came from the USC; by 2018, that number had fallen to 18%. In 2011, just 12% were exempted from paying the charge. Eight years later, that number has more than doubled to 28%.
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