Bass Reeves wrote: » Farmers/Finishers continue to make one serious mistake they constantly buy cattle when processors are filing there sheds. I van never understand the gra to finish cattle for March/April if you have to replace them. It is economic suicide. However there is an element of some lads feeling trapped if they do not drop a double of cattle to the factor every week. .
richie123 wrote: » I don't think there's much to it the value of beef gone to the UK 2019 was Around a billions worth for approximately 270000 tonnes. Very easy work it out after that..unless I'm missing something big-time here, correct me away.
Hard Knocks wrote: » If you find out when the processor’s are going buying, let us know so we can drive up the price on them
Bass Reeves wrote: » Farmers/Finishers continue to make one serious mistake they constantly buy cattle when processors are filing there sheds. I van never understand the gra to finish cattle for March/April if you have to replace them. It is economic suicide. However there is an element of some lads feeling trapped if they do not drop a double of cattle to the factor every week. On calves you will see most lads here think that in general some farmers are paying too much for calves. If you look at JEX calves it took 5 years+ for lads to understand you cannot buy them cheap enough. That is why calf slaughter number have gone from 600 to 15K since 2016 and are running over double 2019 year figures at present. But dropping calf prices will not solve the problem for farmers . The lower the price of the calf the more likely that dairy farmers will go for more easier calving Bulls and you will get more and more ****ty AA calves. But sure that will be BP fault as well. Jam it was not I that commented about the price of store in Jan/Feb. I pointed out the way when any downturn in prices happen these cattle exasperate the issue. in the US processors are not allowed to own or control feedlot units.
wrangler wrote: I wouldn't waste my time now trying to bully a factory ,they;ll do what they do and no one'll stop them
lab man wrote: » theyre was a time to stop them and the ifa took plenty off them to let them walk all over farmers
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Just loaded a truck with young bulls. Chx, limx and hex. Should grade R= at least. Base price €3.48 + vat.
whelan2 wrote: » 2 striploin steaks for €4 in lidl. 400g
memorystick wrote: » I’ve a batch of 2 year old Friesan bullocks. Should I start them on meal for sale in June or July? €250 per ton for ration. 2-3 kgs per day wouldn’t be serious. Any advice greatly appreciated
Jjameson wrote: » There huge variation in Friesian cattle. I’m just a few weeks rid of 36+ month lads I bought nov 18. Avg 640 @ 470kg with only €50 differential cheapest dearestthat time and got no meal till last 130 days. (Plan was to kill last fall off grass but what was the point ) There was 250€ Odd between best and worst performers. €1260 to €1520. But waste of time in any case.
Theheff wrote: » I was chatting a guy on this a few years back. (I know things have changed alot since) the same man is pretty shroud. On this particular winter we compared a pen of friesians and a a pen of U/R grade fancy cattle. When he did his figures after they were gone the friesians left between 10 & 15% more money. Surely if you get decent friesian there is no reason you will not make the same or more at the end of the day.
wrangler wrote: There was never a time, they're private companies and they do as they like. Anytime I was in France beef was the same price here and sometimes even less in France. I never agreed with protests but was always there but like last September the joke was on the farmers. Why would anyone buy Irish beef now, Beef Plan have undermined every bit of it. Promotions, McDonalds and even the farmers management of the cattle . we're lucky to be selling it despite BPs efforts ....sad lot
Danzy wrote: » You should be the cracking friesian bought might be the let down when on the hook.
Theheff wrote: » Might be like chewing gum.
Danzy wrote: » Still think one can have as good a chance with them as any other
jntsnk wrote: » The only issue is P grading which is an awful hammering to get.
Danzy wrote: » Beef farming is like a bondage club, there are types of beatings for everyone attending no matter their story or circumstance.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Depends on there weight. I have them on grass since the 20th of March. The FR have done some thrive. Reckon some of them have done 59kgs since turnout. With FR it a matter if putting flesh on them Maiz e/hulls or Barley/Maize/hulls depending on price. Used only maize/hulls last year very impressed wit it 2/3-1/3. Feed 2-3 kgs try to get them shifted pre 30months you may be able to flat price them. I have cattle split in two bunches on the main block, 20 in one bunch and 37 in the other. The 20 are the heaviest cattle 14 fr in it. Will probably start them on ration in early May. Easier to fatten Fr from June-August than from September on
Cavanjack wrote: » What sort of money you get that mix for? What about straight barley on its own? Would it be any addition?
Cavanjack wrote: » Will there be another €100 top up on cattle killed since the pandemic lads? Not much talk of it.
Jjameson wrote: » There's a beef plan leader taking a dunk on my lawn every morning. Hoors the lot of them!