MadYaker wrote: » Yeah I can't understand how so many are prepared to give him so much slack and to suspend reality. It is a phenomenon that needs to be studied.
Larbre34 wrote: » 10 national polls taken in the last fortnight by thr big organisations, Trump v Biden Best CNN, has Biden at +11. Worst FOX has it tied. Average of the ten is Biden +6 Personally, I feel there's enough quiet disgust at Trump in the US for that to follow through.
MadYaker wrote: » Its only going to get worse for Trump between now and November also. Whatever about the virus the economy is going to be in recession by then surely. Stock market is back to where it was before he got elected. No wall. Didn't repeal Obamacare. Did he keep any promise he made in the previous campaign? Its a struggle to see what he's going to point to in terms of what he actually accomplished which means he'll have to resort to mud slinging. Biden has plenty of ammo there.
Cody montana wrote: » But they still owned the libs, right?
kilns wrote: » Just to clarify did the majority of citizens vote for Trump I’m not sure did they? So it was solely Trumps policies that created a good economy? he took over a failing economy where the jobless figures were going up consistently and economic growth was in the gutter for years before? And how is your national debt? Ever buy a Ferrari on a credit card and hoping the credit card company will never come calling to clear your balance...
Carfacemandog wrote: » Yeah, that's not going to happen. The election, if there is one, will be fixed and Wisconsin the other day was a trial run. The supreme Court ruled that mail in voting in response to covid would unfairly change the nature of the election. They in the same ruling said it was ok for Milwaukee to close 175 of its 180 polling stations for the vote. Let that sink in for a moment. Milwaukee is the same size as Dublin. Imagine 5 voting stations for the entirety of Dublin to squeeze into at any time, let along right now when we are all social distancing and many are at huge risk of death if they catch the virus. And as trump has repeatedly said, the more people that are allowed to vote the worse it is for republicans, so their goal is to stop Americans from being able to. If the covid spread goes completely, horrifically tits up and let's say some insane number 10 million are dead in the US by November, Trump and the supreme Court will rule to "post pone" the election indefinitely, is my guess. Might go looking for odds on no election Clem November actually now that I think of it.
notobtuse wrote: » Democrats keep wanting to push changes that foster abuses of the voting process and republicans keep wanting to make sure the votes are valid.
2u2me wrote: » To me it seems both parties are doing what they can to get ahead. If it's not the republicans gerrymandering its the democrats obsession with the popular vote. Voter ID laws are double edged laws.
notobtuse wrote: » Last night Attorney General William Barr dropped a potential major bomb on TV. When asked when we could expect to see Durham’s report, Barr replied that he’s not sure there will be a report. Apparently Durham might go right to criminal indictments rather than developing a report. It seems if Durham is focusing on criminal violations and bringing those who committed them to justice. That must mean Durham thinks he’s got enough in his pocket to go right to trial. A report on the abuses of high level democrats illegally sabotaging Trump’s presidency would go a long way in the lead up to the election, but criminal indictments of high level democrats and their operatives in the FBI might go a long way also.
duploelabs wrote: » Yeah, it's gonna be a nothingburger
notobtuse wrote: » Why do people keep leaning on a useless number? We don’t elect our president by majority vote... we elect by the Electoral College. Who knows who would be president if Trump had campaigned to win the majority vote? Smart guy, wouldn't you say? Perhaps he still would have won, perhaps not. He didn’t much bother with certain states because they were solid blue. But if he would have campaigned to try and win the majority vote he would have certainly focused more time, attention, and promises on the big voter number states and would certainly have gotten more votes there. So please stop using the majority vote as if it means anything... IT DOESN’T. And yes it was Trumps actions. Primarily from tax cuts, renegotiating trade deals, and removing job and business killing regulations. People who don't think the benefits this country has see are because of Trump's actions... are delusional.
notobtuse wrote: » Brutal! Hey Joe, welcome to the general election.
notobtuse wrote: » Let’s cut the crap. Democrats are trying to change election rules because they’re dishonest and have no qualms against utilizing voter fraud. The changes democrats want in the voting process are rife for abuse, and the undermining the integrity of the ballot, as it utilizes biased and political third-parties to gather and handle a large amount of votes. In these days of increasing threats to election security we should be moving back to in-person paper ballots and voter IDs, but democrat efforts would be a gigantic step in the wrong direction. Anyone with have a brain can see what’s afoot. Democrats keep wanting to push changes that foster abuses of the voting process and republicans keep wanting to make sure the votes are valid. Rather telling that whenever voter fraud is uncovered it is almost perpetrated by democrats, wouldn’t you say. I'd say if democrats get what they want in voting changes they'll never lose an election again. How can you lose when 135% of the total voters in an area vote, and surprise, surprise, a vast majority voted democratic?
notobtuse wrote: » Both parties have been guilty of gerrymandering.
2u2me wrote: » Trump closes the borders to China in early February. If there is footage or anything of any Democrats agreeing with him at that time I'd love to see it, I'd have a lot of respect for those people. From what I've seen he was called a racist for doing so. Typical.
MadYaker wrote: » First of all he didn’t close the borders. He stopped flights from China, didn’t ban Chinese citizens or flights from anywhere else. Just flights coming directly from China, numerous other countries had cases at this point, no restrictions on people coming from anywhere else. At this point the virus was already spreading from person to person within the United States. This was around the time that trump said it would “just disappear”
2u2me wrote: » Come on you know what's what I meant. He closed the borders TO china. Would you give him credit for that? Or should he have done more and not permitted any Chinese people from connecting flights? Something Akin to Taiwain's response.
MadYaker wrote: » no restrictions on people coming from anywhere else.
This was around the time that trump said it would “just disappear”
"We reiterate our call to all countries not to impose restrictions inconsistent with the International Health Regulations. Such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit.
duploelabs wrote: » Closing the border to China do nothing to stop the spread of the disease but served to dogwhistle that China were the problem
Taiwan has kept the virus under control when other parts of the world have not.[...]moved quickly to respond to the potential threat,[...]The policies and actions go beyond border control because they recognized that that wasn't enough.[...]Among those early decisive measures was the decision to ban travel from many parts of China,
2u2me wrote: » Your narrative completely collapses when you consider that Taiwan also closed their borders to China, sooner than the US, and to great effect. Come on; this is the never trumper attitude I was referring to earlier! You're smarter than this.Source
MadYaker wrote: » Taiwan have also been doing some of the most extensive levels of testing and contact tracing, everyone wears masks hence they are dealing with it properly and the USA is basically in free fall. But yeah you’re right the China ban was yuuuuuge, go trump!
