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Hi I've been thinking it'd be nice to have a thread where simple questions that people don't want to create a thread for, could go. Or any chat related to detailing.

I've a question. If I've put a wax on, then a sealant. Then after a few weeks or w/e I'm thinking the shine isn't what it was. (After washing obviously) Can I apply wax on top of whatever sealant and wax is left from the first time, or do I have to remove the remaining sealant + wax first?

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[Deleted User]

Wailin, don’t be surprised if they reappear. Super resin polish has just covered them but washing the car will eventually remove it and they’ll come back. The only way to get rid is to machine polish or even do it by hand with a cutting compound like menzerna fg400 or chemical guys v36.

rodge123

Curious to know if people here using masks and eye gear when using spray foams, tar x, wheel cleaner sprays, fallout removers, spray waxes, etc...???

Done first fullish detail on car today, used goggles and mask but was just a hardware one, probably need something better.

Used:
- Bilt Hamber Auto-foam
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wheel
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wash
- CarPro TarX (had to respray same areas multiple times to get off fully)
- Bilt Hamber Korrisol
- Gtechniq C2V3

Might apply CarPro PERL to tyres tomorrow and Gtechniq C5 to wibdows.

vectra

rodge123 wrote: »

Curious to know if people here using masks and eye gear when using spray foams, tar x, wheel cleaner sprays, fallout removers, spray waxes, etc...???

Done first fullish detail on car today, used goggles and mask but was just a hardware one, probably need something better.

Used:
- Bilt Hamber Auto-foam
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wheel
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wash
- CarPro TarX (had to respray same areas multiple times to get off fully)
- Bilt Hamber Korrisol
- Gtechniq C2V3

Might apply CarPro PERL to tyres tomorrow and Gtechniq C5 to wibdows.

Mask - No
Goggle - No
Gloves - No

Wailin

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Wailin, don’t be surprised if they reappear. Super resin polish has just covered them but washing the car will eventually remove it and they’ll come back. The only way to get rid is to machine polish or even do it by hand with a cutting compound like menzerna fg400 or chemical guys v36.

Yeah makes sense really. I think it's time I tried my hand at the polishing, sure what could go wrong

Any tips on where to start lads on best equipment and pads? I have the jimny to practice on before I move on to the cars. Plenty of time on my hands and it would keep me busy.

I'm guessing a DA rather than rotary would be the safest option?

[Deleted User]

rodge123 wrote: »

Curious to know if people here using masks and eye gear when using spray foams, tar x, wheel cleaner sprays, fallout removers, spray waxes, etc...???

Done first fullish detail on car today, used goggles and mask but was just a hardware one, probably need something better.

Used:
- Bilt Hamber Auto-foam
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wheel
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wash
- CarPro TarX (had to respray same areas multiple times to get off fully)
- Bilt Hamber Korrisol
- Gtechniq C2V3

Might apply CarPro PERL to tyres tomorrow and Gtechniq C5 to wibdows.

Mask & glasses - Yes when spraying anything such as wheel cleaner, deironizer, citrus precleaner,

Gloves - always

Wailin wrote: »

Yeah makes sense really. I think it's time I tried my hand at the polishing, sure what could go wrong

Any tips on where to start lads on best equipment and pads? I have the jimny to practice on before I move on to the cars. Plenty of time on my hands and it would keep me busy.

I'm guessing a DA rather than rotary would be the safest option?

Yep, a positive drive dual action machine would be perfect

vectra

Wailin wrote: »

Yeah makes sense really. I think it's time I tried my hand at the polishing, sure what could go wrong

Any tips on where to start lads on best equipment and pads? I have the jimny to practice on before I move on to the cars. Plenty of time on my hands and it would keep me busy.

I'm guessing a DA rather than rotary would be the safest option?

I am sure MetzgerMeister has a forced rotation polisher for sale.

Or,
I have dealt with Imran over on In2Detailing
I bought 2 polishers and kits from him before Christmas, I haven't used mine yet, but my son has used his and has no complaints. The one in the link is an updated version of mine.
Imran is a pure gent to deal with.
900Watt so will have plenty of power.
I got some Hex Logic pads and Scholl S20 polish.
Got extra 3.5" backing plate's and smaller pads to suit for tighter areas.

Duff

What is the best snow foam that wont strip sealant/protection already on the car, lads? Autofinesse seems decent from youtube reviews.

[Deleted User]

Duff wrote: »

What is the best snow foam that wont strip sealant/protection already on the car, lads? Autofinesse seems decent from youtube reviews.

Bilt Hamber Autofoam or Gtechniq W4.

It's important to adhere to dilution ratios and dwelling time with any snow foam. Too much product always has the potential to strip protection.

Duff

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Bilt Hamber Autofoam or Gtechniq W4.

It's important to adhere to dilution ratios and dwelling time with any snow foam. Too much product always has the potential to strip protection.

Cheers, MetzgerMeister. Think I'll go with BH as I use their auto wash and really like it.

[Deleted User]

I like both Gtechniq and BH foams but there is a difference between the two.

The Gtechniq foam empties from the lance quickly enough and sticks to the car very well. Dwell time is high.

The Autofoam takes an absolute age to empty from the lance but doesn't stick to the car due to the way it works.

traco

I went through some cleaning stuff and found this leather cleaner that I picked up at some show or other. Its supposed to foam up in teh other bottle with water for use.

Just thought I'd ask here to see if anyone had any opinion on seeing the issues on the other thread. One car is dark navy leather and its fairly clean but could do with a treatment to keep it nice and supple. The other is black perforated leather. That needs a really good clean and rejuvenation.

So is this stuff any good or for the bin?

moby2101

Need a little help lads. I was doing the interior of the car , I didn't have usual interiors cleaner and used what I could find in the petrol station...pure crap it left some residue and stains on the cockpit area. I was thinking of steam cleaning it with the wife's clothes steam cleaner. What do ye think recommend?

5500

So I replaced the O rings, start stop valve and microswitch on my nilfisk and its still acting the maggot so may as well look at a new one.

I was looking in the direction of petrol as I want ability for cleaning heavy crap off concrete and paving, but still use it on the car.

I was recommended the Kranzle 1152TST as the man for the job that will happily do both although its pricey, anyone else got an alternative or what they would buy for what I need it for?

[Deleted User]

If you have your heart set on petrol, well and good but you don't need a petrol one for cleaning concrete and paving. I've been using electric ones for years for this job and have had no issues.

5500

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

If you have your heart set on petrol, well and good but you don't need a petrol one for cleaning concrete and paving. I've been using electric ones for years for this job and have had no issues.

I'm not set on petrol I was just swaying seeing some results for cleaning compared to what I was getting with the nilfisk, granted it wasn't that powerful so as you said electric will probably suit fine ifs just which model

[Deleted User]

I've had great results from my Karcher K4, K5 and most recently K7.

[Deleted User]

Having said that though, a petrol one would be more maneuverable. No extension cables, power outlets etc. to annoy you.

Hebegeebee

For best results, and to make life easier, on concrete you need to use a dirtkiller (Kranzle) type lance or a floor cleaning attachment instead of a standard lance. If you have one of those, an electric PW will work better than a petrol without - outside of commercial models.

[Deleted User]

Correct. I should have mentioned that with the Karcher models I also used the accompanying patio T-Racer attachment which has a bar with a high pressure nozzle at each end which spins around.

ianobrien

rodge123 wrote: »

Curious to know if people here using masks and eye gear when using spray foams, tar x, wheel cleaner sprays, fallout removers, spray waxes, etc...???

Done first fullish detail on car today, used goggles and mask but was just a hardware one, probably need something better.

Used:
- Bilt Hamber Auto-foam
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wheel
- Bilt Hamber Auto-wash
- CarPro TarX (had to respray same areas multiple times to get off fully)
- Bilt Hamber Korrisol
- Gtechniq C2V3

Might apply CarPro PERL to tyres tomorrow and Gtechniq C5 to wibdows.

I use the same and I find them excellent. I did one vehicle last weekend with this combo and have another lined up to do this weekend.

However on PPE, I always use nitrile gloves to protect the car from grease from my fingers mainly. As for eye protection, I wear my glasses (I'm half blind without them) but I don't bother with safety glasses.

As for masks, most hardware store masks are designed for large dust particles, not chemicals and aerosols. For chemical protection, you'd need the likes of an FFP3 respirator with the proper filters attached. The products I'm using don't have specific PPE mentioned and I deploy them in the open and never aim them towards myself. Then a mask is overkill. I'm basing this off my experience of lab safety and dealing with chemicals that generally had large Skull & Bones labels on them!

Sexual Chocolate

Got to finally wash my car today with my new Karcher K4 Compact. Wasn't what I initially planned to buy but wasn't keen on waiting for Argos to open back up for a Nilfisk and I got it for cheap from Reflect. In fairness it did a good job and I love that the motor isn't that loud.

Also got their fallout remover which seemed to do a decent job and a few other things. And as always they threw in a few of there own air fresheners which are handy to have.

Think all I need now is a foam lance + foam, bug and tar remover and maybe a new drying towel.

Damo 2k9

Have heard great things about the carpro drying towels, supposed to be the business.

ciarsd

Hi folks, any recommendations for steering wheel leather dye (matt finish). Had a bit of a dye removal nightmare on the shiniest part of my steering wheel as I attempted to clean it with Meguiars Gold Class Rich Leather Cleaner Conditioner. No brushes used - just some new microfibres

It's for an F32 BMW M Sport wheel (black leather). Rest of the wheel (less shiny parts) turned out superb!

Thanks

LollipopJimmy

Thanks for the suggestions on suppliers.

I'm a few years out of detailing, I used to use a glaze on the cars and it looked great, my last car was a dark metallic blue and after prep I went with CG blacklight and petes53 wax.

The bike is white (with blue and red stripes) but any suggestions on making the white 'pop'

The red and white are vinyl so I'm limited in what I can do there. Overall I'm happy with it but I want it to really shine

My Karcher has also gone kaput, fecked it in a skip a while back so I need another, going to go karcher again because I have the snowfoam lance for one

Duff

Anyone ever used Scholl S20 black 1 step compound? My father has a black F10 BMW with swirls everywhere but no other real paint damage. Temped to give the Scholl a try with my DAS 6 to see the outcome. YouTube reviews look good..

Rattlehead_ie

Guys
I know there are a few of the usual shops (prefer to support local) that I'd go to to get some stuff for external cleaning and happy to wait till all this madness is over.
However just want to pick up a few bits for treating the inside if the car...full leather seats, dashboard etc. Any suggestions for products or retailers that have delivery still going?

opinionated3

Duff wrote: »

Anyone ever used Scholl S20 black 1 step compound? My father has a black F10 BMW with swirls everywhere but no other real paint damage. Temped to give the Scholl a try with my DAS 6 to see the outcome. YouTube reviews look good..

Never got to use Scholl yet but FYI I have used angelwax regenerate with a green hex pad and I find it excellent as a one step. Check out apex details on YouTube for a review of it. I got mine from autopia

dsaint1

Duff wrote: »

Anyone ever used Scholl S20 black 1 step compound? My father has a black F10 BMW with swirls everywhere but no other real paint damage. Temped to give the Scholl a try with my DAS 6 to see the outcome. YouTube reviews look good..

I was going to get this but opted for Sonax 04 06 after looking at reviews for a one step. It's similar to Sonax perfect finish but more geared towards use with a DA polisher. Will be trying it out this week hopefully.

Duff

opinionated3 wrote: »

Never got to use Scholl yet but FYI I have used angelwax regenerate with a green hex pad and I find it excellent as a one step. Check out apex details on YouTube for a review of it. I got mine from autopia

Thanks, I'll check it out. Need to buy some new pads too. How many pads do you think I'll need for the full car? 4?

john15

Rattlehead_ie wrote: »

Guys
I know there are a few of the usual shops (prefer to support local) that I'd go to to get some stuff for external cleaning and happy to wait till all this madness is over.
However just want to pick up a few bits for treating the inside if the car...full leather seats, dashboard etc. Any suggestions for products or retailers that have delivery still going?

I just ordered a few bits off partsforcars.ie seem to be still open for deliveries although I didn't get a delivery date, also 10% off at the minute with promo code.