Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » I know some of the counterfeit stuff we get sent to evaluate is almost indistinguishable from our own products - a few years ago we just had to worry about packaging being counterfeited, now its whole assemblies and components.....so I'm not sure how even a well trained team of auditors/assessors on an airport apron could even hope to inspect enough PPE, in sufficient detail to pass or reject a consignment - it's fantasyland stuff from people who have no clue how the real world runs.
FrancieBrady wrote: » It isn't a 'dumb idea' if it increases the effect of social distancing.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I seen this story when it emerged. I don't know what happened but I did follow it up to see what each side was saying and the HSE were vague about what exactly happened. Was an order agreed and then proved impossible to 'place' or was no order agreed at all? I think we should know the answer.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » So it's the HSE's fault??!?!? Do SF ever take responsibility for anything? It can't always be Westminster's fault, or Dublin's fault, or the EU's fault, or China's fault.....if buck-passing was a sport they'd be the undisputed world champions!
Mortelaro wrote: » Oh you did unsucessfuly try to deny a post all day yesterday When you're done denying things you go WTF and move on You were hung this morning again earlier on the china 2 week quarantine because all you are doing again is spoofing on pharma PPE reagents, test kits and dealing with China etc etc Something you as spokesperson here for Sinn Féin clearly know nothing about Threads like these are probably the only places with 4 0r 5 readers left for you to indulge such a lack of knowledge
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » Not really, I think I've made my point - a dumb idea is a dumb idea regardless of who shares it. It would be better if it was explained that such masks will not protect you, but they may protect others if you are asymptomatic and shedding.
jh79 wrote: » So what happened in this situation? Are you gonna call for more "transparency" from the MLA's up North?
However, the Department of Health has confirmed that no joint order has been placed for personal protective equipment (PPE) from China in conjunction with the Northern Ireland Executive A spokeswoman said: “We are ready to discuss any area where we can co-operate effectively, North and South, including on procurement of PPE and critical supplies. “In relation to procurement, while it has not so far proved possible to place a joint order in the context of what is an increasingly challenging international environment, discussions between procurement teams are ongoing and active, and it remains our intention to continue to co-operate in this area.”
FrancieBrady wrote: » Where was that? have you another 'sensational' screen grab where you are going to ask me to back-up something I never said?
FrancieBrady wrote: » We are desperate to change the subject aren't we.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » Not really, no context in this type of situation is not the best idea. Now, if you want exaggeration, you should look to Conor Murphy....
FrancieBrady wrote: » Nonsense. Much as I dislike FG currently I would never suggest Madigan was advocating that. Accept it Sultan, you were once again - exaggerating.
....on 27 March, Mr Murphy announced that he had made a “joint order” with the Irish government for a “significant” volume of personal protective equipment (PPE) which he said “should satisfy our supply demands”. Five days earlier, in response to question about the lack of PPE for medical staff, deputy First Minister Michelle O’Neill had told the Assembly that the Finance Department had that morning “signed a contract that will see additional PPE brought in”. However, last Friday – a week after Mr Murphy’s announcement – the Nolan Show revealed that in fact there was no order, with the Irish government stating that it had “not proved possible to place a joint order”.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » anyone circulating that tweet
Mortelaro wrote: » Was it not introduced here in the ppe discussion in the context of your 'moving mountains ' speech ?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Now just who 'promoted' that idea Sultan? You are exaggerating again.
Yurt! wrote: » No scientific claims pertaining to the above were made be me, the SF TD or Josepha Madigan for that matter. And it obviously is about ideology when someone attempted a bash at a SF TD for retweeting a video about homemade masks, which happens to be CDC advice.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » This isn't about ideology - it's still a dumb idea, promoting the idea that home-made masks offer protection against picking up SARS-CoV-2 particles. A virus particle is between 70 & 90 nm in diameter - cotton weave, even in layers isn't going to catch that.
Mortelaro wrote: » Last several pages was on ppe for frontline staff These are for the general public who may be asymptomatic To offer some protection to others It's the advice in the USA
Deleted User wrote: » For front line workers? Can I interest you in a range of homeopathic virus cures?
Yurt! wrote: » This just went from reckless and irresponsible to pretty good idea actually.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » Is that not Ciara Kelly, and yes it's not embarassing - it's still a stupid idea.
FrancieBrady wrote: » This is so embarrassing...Josepha retweeting the exact same tweet.https://twitter.com/ciarakellydoc/status/1246429238317715457
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yes...because I can accept that something I said was wrong and rethink. I didn't know that people sent out had to do 2 weeks quarantine nor that the pilots were not allowed off the plane until somebody said it here..so I do what I always do...I looked for another possibility/solution. I didn't just throw my hands in the air and say...ah that can't be done.
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