Ballso wrote: » We've wrecked our economy, are facing back into austerity and cuts all over again and your take is that people will want this to level of crisis spending to become the norm? You haven't a clue.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No doubt they will keep on making excuses, but as I said, they will be untenable and effectively silenced by events. Changes can be made if the will is there.
blanch152 wrote: » That issue of cost is the point. We have had posters on here claiming that the current policies by the government are implementing Sinn Fein election policy, but those limited three-month policies in an emergency have created an annual €22 billion hole in the government finances.https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/central-bank-warns-of-22bn-hole-in-public-finances-from-coronavirus-crisis-1.4219419 Implemented for a year, they would cost €88bn. When a lot of us said that implementing Sinn Fein style budgetary policies would wreck the economy and the public finances, we didn't expect to be proven correct in this way. A lot of them will be quickly reversed once this is over.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No...I'm not going to tell you something you will just handwave away for the sake of it..or the sake of those who have no interest in changing the status quo. Just take it from me...we, who have always said, that there is a better way, won't be listening to the usual excuses for failure in the run up to a new government. Why? Because those excuses are no longer tenable.
tikkahunter wrote: » whats the cost though? All the free gaff money is will be gone and we will have a substantial debt , the measures brought and carried out by FG ensured with had the credit to borrow and now the many like me who work between 60-80 hours a week will be creamed in tax just when we thought we might see a bit of relief coming on that .
tikkahunter wrote: » Silenced
[Deleted User] wrote: » Feel free to be specific.
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'They are not'....???? What?
tikkahunter wrote: » They are not , yes you can do all of the above if you have the SF money tree.You side step every point anyone makes.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yes...but the 'nothing can be done' merchants...or worse, the 'he/she/insert political party here - is doing their best' merchants are silenced. There are plenty of things to be 'done'. Putting the public front and centre and properly resourcing the front line staff and services would be an efficient start.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » How? And define "properly resourcing"? Can you elaborate on how we can transition to a more patient-centred public health service? What do you see as the key governance issues that need to be overcome?
FrancieBrady wrote: » What makes you think I was laughing? I am unapologetic about my post count. Quite proud of it. Just thinking here after a report on Morning Ireland. There will be one interesting aspect to the incoming and now IMO imminent and necessary election: no Minister Of Health or his civilian defenders can ever again say that nothing can be done about the HSE. Properly tasked and resourced it is something to be proud of.
Townton wrote: » Tasking and resourcing something in a time of emergency is different to tasking and resourcing it in normal times. You have massive armies during times of war but they get scaled-down during peace time. Same will happen here. How you manage the HSE during the worst pandemic crisis since 1917 is different for obvious reasons to how we would do it otherwise. During normal times the DoH and the HSE were black pit money holes that needed reform not more money from the tax payer.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » Hey look, its the intergooglewebs - you're entitled to believe and suspect what you want, likewise so am I.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Must remember this defence when certain things are being alleged about others.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » Yes, yes, yes, many suspect and believe the earth is flat, the moon landings were faked, Elvis is alive, the Illuminati exist, the Lizard People move among us, McDonald is not beholden to anyone etc etc etc I suspect and believe lots of thngs, but suspicion and belief are just that - and they certanly aren't evidence of anything, at least not in the rational world.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I guess what you are trying to deny here is that many suspect/believe that FG are using bots to say noice things about FGers. Ála Leo's wishes:https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/varadkar-suggested-creating-anonymous-accounts-online-to-make-positive-comments-on-news-37275799.html
blanch152 wrote: » Funny how two Prime Ministers end up in a hospital.....one helping out in a time or need, the other because he didn't take the thing seriously. Glad we have Leo as our one.
all about the mane wrote: » Francie laughing at people with so little going on that they appear here everyday... How many posts are you up to now Francie?
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » You know, sometimes it's just better to admit a typo rather than add to the mistake. Also, "on Twitter where many believe......" is not evidence of anything except the fact that twitter is a bit of a zoo - that phrase can be used to preface many equally ridiculous statements.....on Twitter where many believe......vaccines are harmful on Twitter where many believe.......the earth is flat on Twitter where many believe......Covid-19 is linked to 5G on Twitter where many believe........Gerry Adams was not a member of the IRA on Twitter where many believe.......SF are not under the direction of an army council The rapidity with which you ask people to cite evidence/sources only compares to the paucity of the evidence and sources you post.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Well there does at times seem to be a militaristic bent to some of the current incumbents defenders. Especially on Twitter where many believe Simon's defenders are under orders.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » What about his military defenders?
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