Jjameson wrote: » Back anothe 10cent to €3.40. But Tesco are committed to paying ABP the same rate?? But sure they’ll still take em lads that’s the main thing....
CloughCasey1 wrote: » https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/2-bollocks/24568976 Ask him how much the two steers are while you're there ; )
Theheff wrote: » Just got the same back from agent. Only early April. Not good. I am in the market for handy cattle but think I will hold off for abit. Lads looking for lots on DD. Put lads will buy mad now for grass special with mild weather forcasted for later in week.
CloughCasey1 wrote: » There is also a bit of panic selling on DD at minute. Some lads looking for mad money for stock all the same. Lads looking for more money for dairy bred stock than better bred/shaped suckler stock.
BENDYBINN wrote: » Yards are full of silage,fertilizer is cheap,grass is coming,no farmer is going to be giving away stock for half nothing after feeding them all winter..
Water John wrote: » Fertiliser was never cheap.
Theheff wrote: » Not saying lads should be selling there cattle for half nothing but if the factories are cutting the arse then you cannot expect guys to pay top dollar. I have bigger cattle to kill in the next few weeks that I fed all winter & more than lightly they will leave no profit. Guys are looking for crazy money for plain stock. I dont want to be shot for saying this but handy dairy stock would want to be at €1.50 /kg in the current climate.
CloughCasey1 wrote: » Will they may put out the fert so as I wont buy anything that doesn't look value for money. They can try their hands at finishing. Sure any gob****e can throw a few buckets of meal to a lock of stores!
BENDYBINN wrote: » Sure, all the neighbors will be laughing at you......empty fields and the grass growing up over the ditches!!!
Bass Reeves wrote: » farmer near me killed 2 year old Continental bullocks, they were R+ he got 3.6/kg the end of the week before last, they killed 350ish DW he averaged less than 1350/head. He bought them last spring for 700 euro after fees and transport. No margin there. For all the processors guff cow and bull kill is not dropping to any great extent neither is the kill in general. I say they are operating a two price system again. Any lad feeding cattle over the winter without a contract is an idiot I am sorry to say. I might get caught with a few that are gone by Christmas but feeding out into March and April or even late February costs are just too high to gamble. You would over winter those cattle for 100-120 euro on silage along and the grass will do the work then.
Cavanjack wrote: » They must have been only runners at that money last spring and were too small to finish out of the shed this winter. I’d imagine they were ideal cattle to turn out to grass this spring.
Bass Reeves wrote: » . He bought them last spring for 700 euro after fees and transport. No margin there. .
Dunedin wrote: » €650 gross profit in one year. Must be a high cost system if they didn’t leave something. Practically doubled his money.
Jjameson wrote: » It’s about as good as it gets in any given year. 3.00 a day for for housed finishing €450. €100 for grazing, €50 for buying selling and dosing. Nothing for fixed costs, or mortality. It’s an expensive hobby is all.
restive wrote: » Just got quoted 3.85 base underage Angus Bullock's. Kepak athleague.
oneten wrote: » Anyone get base price quotes for heifers ? does 3.40 sound like a piss take ?
Bass Reeves wrote: » They were not runners they were March/April calves I think he bought them late January last year. They were not fancy Continental cattle a mixture of Salers and LM. Only saw them before slaughter and there is still a few to go. Would have been flaking cattle to go to grass this year and slaughter in July IMO. 50 euro got them to grass last year, I always cost grass at 100 for a season, vet and dosing transport to factory and slaughter fees 55euro, mortality 20euro, I know none died but you have to factor it in for when it will happen. He was feeding arable bales would you cost them at 35-40/ bale they are on it since early/mid November did they eat 100euro worth of them. He was.paying 280/ton for ration in bags, they got a shake at the back end outside and started.on 3kgs , they were build up to 5/day fairly fast about 180euro at that costing and 60euro for misc That brings total costs to 550-580 euro. Ya there's a small margin of 70-100 euro. Could yhey have done better maybe maybe not. Could be have cut any costs, maybe he could have saved 20 euro on ration if on bulk or maybe nut was not good enough. But he did not overpay for them and neither he nor the man that bred them had anything out if them. If they were better cattle and cost 180 more would they slaughter that much heavier to make a higher margin a higher grade might add 20euro but you need 45kgs DW to break even on the rest of the cost. Hard to see a lot of continental bullock tipping the 400kgs DW out if a shed at 2 years of age. Looking at agriland quotes processor's seem to be opening a two tier price system again. Smaller producer being hit hard but bigger lads getting 20c/kg more. And maybe ever higher depending on how many cattle smaller lads are supplying. Kill has not substantially dropped in any group of cattle last week yes kill is down about 2k but is that a seasonal drop from now to mid/June. Normally I start feeding in 10-14days time, this year it can wait until May at least. Feeding for sub 4/kg base I'd stupid for a 3.5/kg base is just not on. With Tesco's and the UK supermarkets have dropped there priced being paid for the UK market or we are bing ridden again. With factories can they extract more from the market if not we might as well close up shop. At present price if it continue out into the summer I need to drop my store price by snother 100/head in the autumn. That means store Friesian will need to be a euro/kg to put it in context. It beginning to look like you cannot buy stores cheap enough and that is not the answer. Except for COVID I say we should close the factories....maybe we should close them anyway. There is nothing to be lost by doing it at this stage
Cavanjack wrote: » I’d be Very disappointed with continental bullocks killing less than 400kg at 24 months. They must have done very little last summer at grass. I Bought 6 hungry plain Simmental bullocks last March for €750 in the yard @320kg and straight to grass. Killed them the first week in March. 405kg average r- and r=. They Averaged €1580 and ate about €220 of meal and average quality silage. These were plain cattle. If I had a u grade Charolais I’d expect more from them.
