smurgen wrote: » I'm getting a good laugh off this. The FG fanboys questioning my educational background while a completely inept, disaster after disaster health minister who's also a college dropout,no education in the area he works in and zero experience gets their support couldn't make this stuff up.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That is just naivety. FG and FF know they have to work together ultimately. It's a bit like two parachutists colliding midair and getting their chutes tangled, with the result there is only one chute working. Both will cling to one another not willing to let go to see who's chute is the damaged one. Same as the two power swap parties...they know ultimately one of them is going down, they just don't know which one. They will merge closer and closer together as a result...they are now about to get as close to one another without actually merging.
joeguevara wrote: » I think it’s very unfair to claim something like that. If you don’t agree with points or think it’s misinterpreted, use that to argue. But to say that someone lied about something that could be an integral part of who they are isn’t nice. I have had similar things said to me and it really hurt. Especially with what is happening, no one knows the impact it can have.
Mortelaro wrote: » In my opinion, just going on your posts,you do not have a masters degree in Economics.
smurgen wrote: » So he’s days late implementing these time sensitive measures it seems. Important we document the timelines for when the dust settles here. Like here where on March 11th the government stance was it was too early to ban visitors after nursing homes Ireland had put in restrictions on visits. http://www.redfm.ie/news/coronavirus/department-of-health-blanket-ban-on-visitors-to-hospitals-and-nursing-homes-amid-coronavirus-unnecessary/
Mortelaro wrote: » Jaysis..that's 3 days old It's the job of the CMO and NPHET Heres today's latest ...https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0404/1128463-covid19-coronavirus-ireland/
smurgen wrote: » I wonder will Harris be turning attention to the nursing homes now that inaction have lead to numerous deaths? Couldn't even talk to our reply to the head of the nursing home body until the body count got too high to ignore. How in God's name were the nursing home visitations kept open for so long?https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/nursing-homes-body-wants-urgent-meeting-with-simon-harris-990134.html
tobsey wrote: » You’re point on this is pure nonsense Francie. Do you think FG said to their voters who were leaving them, here Vote for FF so?? If the voters went to FF instead of the other parties that’s the fault of those parties. I’m sure you’d be delighted if FG had held on to them and kept FF and SF small alright.
tobsey wrote: » Went from a massive deficit to a surplus, went from being bailed out by IMF at astronomical rates to borrowing on the bond markets at some of the lowest rates for any countries in the world. Yeah, wasted that boom alright.
smurgen wrote: » You're intentionally misrepresenting what I said. I'm saying the boom was squandered and we're more exposed than we should be. That stupid comment is your own because you created a false arguement out of the misreading of my comment and attributing it to me.but I've seen it as a regular tactic out of yourself.
markodaly wrote: » Oh here we go. The bore has come out of the daily hibernation. But lets take it this way, you blame FF for the crash, but I guess the good economic news since 2011 has been 'luck' and nothing to do with the government at the helm? You cannot have it both ways, either governments in power are be blamed for their bad mistakes and praised for good outcomes or not.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Blame anyone but FG. Surprise surprise we now have them coalescing to cling onto power for a wee while longer. They'll help SF alright by being completely transparently obvious in what they are doing.
smurgen wrote: » I agree 100% that's why is more regarded as an art than a science by those that have studied it. However I was scoffed at and accused of lying about my education last night. The latest insults cast. Hence why I wanted to tackle people on the actual theory that I studied.
smurgen wrote: » So still ignoring what I'm saying or don't understand which is it? I hope to Christ you're not an accountant given the understanding you're showing.
christy c wrote: » Whenever you have calculated the effective rate come back to me.
markodaly wrote: » What nonsense is this? EVERY country in the western world is going to have a huge bill to pay after this dies down. Blaming FG for the fact that a bill is due because of Covid-19 is among one of the most stupidest comments I have seen here for a while.
smurgen wrote: » Is this before of after you dismissed the creative accounting that facilitates tax deductible payments back to the parent company? You know that part that puts the profit shifting part into BEPS?
christy c wrote: » You never gave a figure, what was Google's effective rate of tax in 2018? When referencing companies paying more than 12.5% you said "Some companies?lol maybe small companies than can't afford tax efficient structures". Please don't get on your high horse with insults either, with your frequent mention of Finnerbots.
blanch152 wrote: » That is the problem, you are relying on book learning from an economics masters. Economics theory usually only survives about five minutes in the real world, hence that is why you get so much wrong. By the time you adapt economics to reality, it is more like a combination of psychology, sociology, behavioural science and business management than any recognisable economics that you pick up in college.
Mortelaro wrote: » Are you sure you're not talking about Sinn Féin:D
FrancieBrady wrote: » No, they aren't going anywhere. Like dock weed you have to keep it cut back or it will just get stronger.
Bass Reeves wrote: » What a load.of Baloney. It was Labour that saved FF. In there rush to be part of the government in 2011 they made unsustainable promises, remember the Labour way or the Frankfurt way. If labour has not over promised they would have been the main opposition party from 2011- whenever, it is likely that if FG had the numbers to form a government by itself it would have only lasted 3-4 years not 5. Labour would have stormed into power and SF would still be only a party of 10ishTDs Instead labour left an open gate to both SF and FF.you should be thanking Gilmore and Rabbit
FrancieBrady wrote: » FF should have been dead and buried in 2011. But FG couldn't afford to do that because it would then be a straight fight between them and SF. So they rehabilitated the other party of the power swap. FF should have went the way of the PD's before them - redundant, irrelevant and toxic. SF did it the hard way with both FF and FG trying to take them down.
Mortelaro wrote: » Fianna Fáil aren't going anywhere Arch supporter Fionnan Sheehan is editor of the Irish independent and is busy converting it to the new Irish Press
tobsey wrote: » That was Bowie’s, or Matt Barrett's favourite line on these threads, that FG made FF electable and that was somehow damning on FG. In fact FF’s vote didn’t really grow at all in the latest election. They bounced back a bit in 2016 from their wipeout in 2011 but have stagnated since. The biggest gains by far were by SF, so if anything FG’s performance boosted SF. I’d have thought you’d be happy with that. Why you’re saying FG’s losses are a benefit to FF is strange. The numbers don’t support that.
smurgen wrote: » Still trying to make up your mind on what I said.i'll check in tomorrow. In the meantime here's Lieo with some anecdotes to keep us entertained.https://twitter.com/caulmick/status/1245795488466640899?s=19
markodaly wrote: » I have to love this nonesense. Ireland has had the fastest growing economy in the EU. I will repeat, Irelend had the FASTEST growing economy in the EU. If it were all just a global economic boom, why are Ireland top of the class when it comes to things like growth and unemployment. Just pure luck I guess? Nothing to do with good policies drawing capital or investment, making it a good place to create jobs? Look at Greece. SF poster boy. It had a 17% unemployment rate last year, a youth unemployment rate of over 35%! SF fans trying to argue economics is like a one handed man trying to play the violin.
