Shefwedfan wrote: » The thread is a disaster to be honest, it’s similar to the other SF thread and I got out of that At this stage it really is a display of the great saying “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
Fionn1952 wrote: » I hate to be so flippant, but you would. More akin to two stupid people managing to collectively lower eachother to a new sub level, but the correct sentiment.
tikkahunter wrote: » I see a lot of facts in the arguments.
Fionn1952 wrote: » This is f*cking embarrassing all round lads. Francie clearly doesn't have much of a clue about how the pharma industry (or really any production environment) works, but the desperate circle jerk to shut him down by throwing poorly thought out objections and half truths is as bad.
amadangomor wrote: » Good to see you off with your tail between your legs . According to Facebook 5G caused the whole thing so Sinn Fein should be looking to knee c.. um find and bring to justice who ever started that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'Forced' now is it? Jesus the invention around this story is fabulous. What next..lab assistants at gunpoint. And then you guys look down your noses at what happens on FB and Twitter. Good night, off to watch Netflix here...some more fiction and invention.
FrancieBrady wrote: » But the IT article contradicts what you say. Production can clearly be ramped up in some facilities. I don't doubt you work in a plant, but there are all levels of employees. So without anything concrete your end I will stick with what facts about this I can find. My god lads and lassies, if you don't expect your politicians to speak up in a crisis (even if they are profoundly wrong) what kind of servile whipping dogs are you? Try to imagine what it would be like when FG realise their goal of being in opposition...would Leo be 'mouthing off' everytime he called for something?
FrancieBrady wrote: » A TD should never be afraid to speak up. Even if what they say is wrong. That is not saying LoR is wrong, that remains to be seen...unless you have a comprehension issue.
amadangomor wrote: » So for example an Abbott owned plant in Cavan that makes milk powder for infant formula should be forced to making test kits which they legally cannot make and are outside their expertise? Sinn Fein's rhetoric makes for great stories to be shared by people with low intelligence on Facebook. Here the real world they are showing themselves to be totally bat**** crazily out of touch.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Here comes the winkle out. :rolleyes: You linked to this and told me to 'educate myself'.https://www.drugs.com/fda-approval-process.html
FrancieBrady wrote: » What is wrong with asking this:Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too.
ʺDr Cillian de Gascun has said that the extraction material, which is used to extract the viral RNA in the testing process, is proprietary meaning strict patent laws govern who can and cannot manufacture it. The lack of it, is now causing delays here."
markodaly wrote: » LOL, so O'Reilly should have said what she said, even though she is wrong. You are the gift that keeps on giving Francie. :pac::D Have you been under a rock lately? There is a lot of fear and anxiety around there. The last thing we want now, is some idiot politician getting up and spreading nonsense, fear and falsehoods but I guess that is A.OK from you are they are just doing their job. #Draintheswamp #SFLovesTrump #Whocaresforfacts Am I doing this correctly? Perhaps we should give Anti-Vaxers equal airtime to doctors and health professionals.. after all 'If you feel something is important...speak up' :D:D:D
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yes. Even if they are wrong. If you feel something is important...speak up.
markodaly wrote: » Ah, still stuck in the era of megaphone politics. No wonder you are rattled.
all about the mane wrote: » Sinn Féin TDs Louise O’Reilly and Darren O’Rourke have called for Ireland’s pharmaceutical sector to be fully utilised to produce COVID-19 testing kits and materials now. Their comments come as a global shortage of extraction material used in the testing process is resulting in significant delays and limitations on testing here. Speaking this evening, Deputy O'Reilly said; ʺIn recent days it has become evident that a lack of reagent used in the COVID-19 testing process, has led to a significant delay for patients receiving test results, and a significantly lower number of people being tested each day, than was previously planned. ʺDespite previously setting a target of 15,000 tests per day, only about 10% of that is now being realised here. ʺThere is an international shortage of extraction material used in the testing process, causing significant disruption to testing for COVID-19 across the globe, including here in Ireland. ʺAs the COVID-19 crisis grows day on day, the international demand on this material is only going to increase, putting significant pressure on the testing regime here. ʺDr Cillian de Gascun has said that the extraction material, which is used to extract the viral RNA in the testing process, is proprietary meaning strict patent laws govern who can and cannot manufacture it. The lack of it, is now causing delays here." Teachta O'Rourke said; ʺThe government need to urgently engage with pharmaceutical companies that are located in Ireland, with a view to developing test kits for use here domestically, as the international market clearly cannot meet the demand required. All options, including the compulsory licensing of intellectual property, should be considered in an effort to maximise production. ʺIreland has a world-renowned and long-established pharmaceutical sector, with the top 10 pharmaceutical companies operating here, and this needs to be utilised fully. ʺWe have thousands of highly skilled workers in this sector, and there is no reason we shouldn’t be able to manufacture COVID-19 testing kits and materials here. ʺAbbott Laboratories have announced a rapid COVID-19 test which they intend to roll out in the United States. Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too. ʺWe cannot sit by and hope the international market deliver the materials needed at some stage in the future. We need domestic production of COVID-19 tests and materials now." The above is from SF’s website. The level of ignorance as to how the pharma industry works is astounding in that passage.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I expect every TD in the Dáil to speak up and be heard. EVERYONE of them.
all about the mane wrote: » I never said anything about developing drugs! Jesus wept
FrancieBrady wrote: » Should that not be something you ask of LoR? I presented a list of many companies stepping up to different plates. It's a crisis. If you require servile, silent politicians, maybe a democracy isn't the place for you. I expect every TD in the Dáil to speak up and be heard. EVERYONE of them.
all about the mane wrote: » ‘Even if what they are saying is profoundly wrong’ Your words
FrancieBrady wrote: » You made up two things about what she said. Here they are, in case you try and winkle out of it now, like a few others. You thought she was talking about developing drugs. And you thought she was talking about shutting down the manufacture of critical drugs. What an embarrassment. Tripping over yourself to get the digs in.
all about the mane wrote: » Yes, everybody on this thread tonight is exposing your ignorance yet I’m the one embarrassing myself. Good one francie!
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