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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan

I haven't seen or heard anything from Mary Lou, Slab Murphy and other good Republicans in ages.

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[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

As I said, in a crisis, what ordinarily seems impossible is suddenly possible.

You are talking about one pharma company, worldwide, transferring production to a disinfectant gel? What used they make before?

tikkahunter

FrancieBrady wrote: »

As I said, in a crisis, what ordinarily seems impossible is suddenly possible.

Alcohol producing company producing alcohol based sanitiser is not the same as a pharma plant just starting to produce kits for testing . Your arguing on a subject you don’t understand just try to defend the ****e spouted by a troublemaker.

markodaly

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The more SF talk in reality it’s the better for everyone else. They continue to alienate people all over the country

Imagine these gobsh**s if they actually had power....place would be a complete mess

I think many voters may have voters remorse when it comes to SF and when this emergency dies down over the next 3-6 months, people will want stability and a strong economy... that means a shift back to FF and FG.

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

Clonakilty distilleries are now making hand sanitizer. A great initiative. People won’t die without their whiskey though.
If a facility is producing a critical drug, they can’t switch. That’s the bottom line.

Who said anything about critical facilities switching...will you quit inventing stuff...you are embarrassing yourself. First it is 'new drug production' now it is 'switching off 'critical facilities'.

all about the mane

tikkahunter wrote: »

Alcohol producing company producing alcohol based sanitiser is not the same as a pharma plant just starting to produce kits for testing . Your arguing on a subject you don’t understand just try to defend the ****e spouted by a troublemaker.

Francie defends SF no matter what they come out with

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

You are talking about one pharma company, worldwide, transferring production to a disinfectant gel? What used they make before?

Actually, I am talking about big pharma, just like every other company, stepping up to the plate.

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

Francie defends SF no matter what they come out with

And what exactly is it you do? You just invented two things the woman said and attacked her for saying them. Get a grip.

all about the mane

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who said anything about critical facilities switching...will you quit inventing stuff...you are embarrassing yourself. First it is 'new drug production' now it is 'switching off 'critical facilities'.

Yes, everybody on this thread tonight is exposing your ignorance yet I’m the one embarrassing myself. Good one francie!

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Actually, I am talking about big pharma, just like every other company, stepping up to the plate.

who in "big pharma" did you have in mind?

For example, tell me how Pfizer could produce more tests in Ireland?

What should they do?

markodaly

aido79 wrote: »

She needs to be pulled up on this. Why is she allowed to go on camera and come out with nonsense without fact checking it first or even doing the slightest bit of research? Next she'll be expecting them to come up with a vaccine.

SF and fact-checking...? Pffttt! Fact-checking is for losers.
SF are masters of the dark arts of fake news and spouting guff.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

I think many voters may have voters remorse when it comes to SF and when this emergency dies down over the next 3-6 months, people will want stability and a strong economy... that means a shift back to FF and FG.

In the face of the latest poll that shows FF losing ground?? Really...remorse?

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

who in "big pharma" did you have in mind?

For example, tell me how Pfizer could produce more tests in Ireland?

What should they do?

Should that not be something you ask of LoR?

I presented a list of many companies stepping up to different plates. It's a crisis.
If you require servile, silent politicians, maybe a democracy isn't the place for you.

I expect every TD in the Dáil to speak up and be heard. EVERYONE of them.

markodaly

Deleted User wrote: »

You are talking about one pharma company, worldwide, transferring production to a disinfectant gel? What used they make before?

It's Hilarious, equating the manufacturing of hand sanitiser to a pharma plant making life-saving cancer drugs.

One is easy and can be done in someone's house, the other is very very very hard.

It's like arguing with Dougal at this stage.

Spanish Eyes

One word here re SF at the moment. Well maybe two...

Louise O Reilly.

all about the mane

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Should that not be something you ask of LoR?

I presented a list of many companies stepping up to different plates. It's a crisis.
If you require servile, silent politicians, maybe a democracy isn't the place for you.

I expect every TD in the Dáil to speak up and be heard. EVERYONE of them.

‘Even if what they are saying is profoundly wrong’

Your words

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

Yes, everybody on this thread tonight is exposing your ignorance yet I’m the one embarrassing myself. Good one francie!

You made up two things about what she said.

Here they are, in case you try and winkle out of it now, like a few others.

You thought she was talking about developing drugs.

And you thought she was talking about shutting down the manufacture of critical drugs.

What an embarrassment. Tripping over yourself to get the digs in.

all about the mane

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You made up two things about what she said.

Here they are, in case you try and winkle out of it now, like a few others.

You thought she was talking about developing drugs.

And you thought she was talking about shutting down the manufacture of critical drugs.

What an embarrassment. Tripping over yourself to get the digs in.

I never said anything about developing drugs! Jesus wept

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

‘Even if what they are saying is profoundly wrong’

Your words

Yes. Even if they are wrong.

If you feel something is important...speak up. Don't be afraid of a bunch of servile detractors waiting to pounce on you.

all about the mane

Sinn Féin TDs Louise O’Reilly and Darren O’Rourke have called for Ireland’s pharmaceutical sector to be fully utilised to produce COVID-19 testing kits and materials now.

Their comments come as a global shortage of extraction material used in the testing process is resulting in significant delays and limitations on testing here.

Speaking this evening, Deputy O'Reilly said;

ʺIn recent days it has become evident that a lack of reagent used in the COVID-19 testing process, has led to a significant delay for patients receiving test results, and a significantly lower number of people being tested each day, than was previously planned.

ʺDespite previously setting a target of 15,000 tests per day, only about 10% of that is now being realised here.

ʺThere is an international shortage of extraction material used in the testing process, causing significant disruption to testing for COVID-19 across the globe, including here in Ireland.

ʺAs the COVID-19 crisis grows day on day, the international demand on this material is only going to increase, putting significant pressure on the testing regime here.

ʺDr Cillian de Gascun has said that the extraction material, which is used to extract the viral RNA in the testing process, is proprietary meaning strict patent laws govern who can and cannot manufacture it. The lack of it, is now causing delays here."

Teachta O'Rourke said;

ʺThe government need to urgently engage with pharmaceutical companies that are located in Ireland, with a view to developing test kits for use here domestically, as the international market clearly cannot meet the demand required. All options, including the compulsory licensing of intellectual property, should be considered in an effort to maximise production.

ʺIreland has a world-renowned and long-established pharmaceutical sector, with the top 10 pharmaceutical companies operating here, and this needs to be utilised fully.

ʺWe have thousands of highly skilled workers in this sector, and there is no reason we shouldn’t be able to manufacture COVID-19 testing kits and materials here.

ʺAbbott Laboratories have announced a rapid COVID-19 test which they intend to roll out in the United States. Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too.

ʺWe cannot sit by and hope the international market deliver the materials needed at some stage in the future. We need domestic production of COVID-19 tests and materials now."

The above is from SF’s website. The level of ignorance as to how the pharma industry works is astounding in that passage.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Should that not be something you ask of LoR?

I presented a list of many companies stepping up to different plates. It's a crisis.
If you require servile, silent politicians, maybe a democracy isn't the place for you.

I expect every TD in the Dáil to speak up and be heard. EVERYONE of them.

As outlined already, our pharma companies are stepping up already.

What you are asking is akin to asking a car factory to start making planes. Sure, they are both complex modes of transport, doesn't means you can build them with the same kit.

Or, since you like growing vegetables, expecting your radish patch to be turned into an apple orchard overnight, because the country needs apples in a crisis.

You can't just say to pharma "make this" without knowing if they have the underlying capacity to do so.

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

I never said anything about developing drugs! Jesus wept

Here comes the winkle out. :rolleyes:

You linked to this and told me to 'educate myself'.

https://www.drugs.com/fda-approval-process.html

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I expect every TD in the Dáil to speak up and be heard. EVERYONE of them.

Ah, still stuck in the era of megaphone politics.
No wonder you are rattled.

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

Sinn Féin TDs Louise O’Reilly and Darren O’Rourke have called for Ireland’s pharmaceutical sector to be fully utilised to produce COVID-19 testing kits and materials now.

Their comments come as a global shortage of extraction material used in the testing process is resulting in significant delays and limitations on testing here.

Speaking this evening, Deputy O'Reilly said;

ʺIn recent days it has become evident that a lack of reagent used in the COVID-19 testing process, has led to a significant delay for patients receiving test results, and a significantly lower number of people being tested each day, than was previously planned.

ʺDespite previously setting a target of 15,000 tests per day, only about 10% of that is now being realised here.

ʺThere is an international shortage of extraction material used in the testing process, causing significant disruption to testing for COVID-19 across the globe, including here in Ireland.

ʺAs the COVID-19 crisis grows day on day, the international demand on this material is only going to increase, putting significant pressure on the testing regime here.

ʺDr Cillian de Gascun has said that the extraction material, which is used to extract the viral RNA in the testing process, is proprietary meaning strict patent laws govern who can and cannot manufacture it. The lack of it, is now causing delays here."

Teachta O'Rourke said;

ʺThe government need to urgently engage with pharmaceutical companies that are located in Ireland, with a view to developing test kits for use here domestically, as the international market clearly cannot meet the demand required. All options, including the compulsory licensing of intellectual property, should be considered in an effort to maximise production.

ʺIreland has a world-renowned and long-established pharmaceutical sector, with the top 10 pharmaceutical companies operating here, and this needs to be utilised fully.

ʺWe have thousands of highly skilled workers in this sector, and there is no reason we shouldn’t be able to manufacture COVID-19 testing kits and materials here.

ʺAbbott Laboratories have announced a rapid COVID-19 test which they intend to roll out in the United States. Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too.

ʺWe cannot sit by and hope the international market deliver the materials needed at some stage in the future. We need domestic production of COVID-19 tests and materials now."

The above is from SF’s website. The level of ignorance as to how the pharma industry works is astounding in that passage.

What is wrong with asking this:

Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

Ah, still stuck in the era of megaphone politics.
No wonder you are rattled.

Rattled?

We know FG arrogance wants others to stay silent and be beholding to them.

I don't think that is healthy. Every politician elected should speak and speak loudly if they see something that needs addressing.

Sorry if that discommodes you

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes. Even if they are wrong.

If you feel something is important...speak up.

LOL, so O'Reilly should have said what she said, even though she is wrong.

You are the gift that keeps on giving Francie. :pac::D

Have you been under a rock lately? There is a lot of fear and anxiety around there. The last thing we want now, is some idiot politician getting up and spreading nonsense, fear and falsehoods but I guess that is A.OK from you are they are just doing their job.

#Draintheswamp
#SFLovesTrump
#Whocaresforfacts

Am I doing this correctly?

Perhaps we should give Anti-Vaxers equal airtime to doctors and health professionals.. after all 'If you feel something is important...speak up'

:D:D:D

amadangomor

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What is wrong with asking this:

Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too.

So for example an Abbott owned plant in Cavan that makes milk powder for infant formula should be forced to making test kits which they legally cannot make and are outside their expertise?

Sinn Fein's rhetoric makes for great stories to be shared by people with low intelligence on Facebook. Here the real world they are showing themselves to be totally bat**** crazily out of touch.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

LOL, so O'Reilly should have said what she said, even though she is wrong.

You are the gift that keeps on giving Francie. :pac::D

Have you been under a rock lately? There is a lot of fear and anxiety around there. The last thing we want now, is some idiot politician getting up and spreading nonsense, fear and falsehoods but I guess that is A.OK from you are they are just doing their job.

#Draintheswamp
#SFLovesTrump
#Whocaresforfacts

Am I doing this correctly?

Perhaps we should give Anti-Vaxers equal airtime to doctors and health professionals.. after all 'If you feel something is important...speak up' :D:D:D

FFS would you ever read what I said Mark? For once?

A TD should never be afraid to speak up. Even if what they say is wrong.

That is not saying LoR is wrong, that remains to be seen...unless you have a comprehension issue.

Spreading lies to cover ineptitude and lapses is not good either mark, by the way. A whole day today of the HSE trying to win back confidence in it's testing and an apology to those fearful and waiting for results and tests.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What is wrong with asking this:

Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too.

Do you have reading comprehension difficulties?

ʺDr Cillian de Gascun has said that the extraction material, which is used to extract the viral RNA in the testing process, is proprietary meaning strict patent laws govern who can and cannot manufacture it. The lack of it, is now causing delays here."

Ah, sure maybe some 'Good' Republican can make a batch or two of this in some milk drums for us. We won't ask any questions... :rolleyes::p

tikkahunter

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What is wrong with asking this:

Abbott employs 3,000 people here in Ireland, across 9 sites, and the government need to engage with this company to see if production and supply of these new tests can begin here too.

More ignorance on there behalf , Abbott can employ 10000 in Ireland but if the plants don’t make test kits Then it’s pointless .

all about the mane

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Here comes the winkle out. :rolleyes:

You linked to this and told me to 'educate myself'.

https://www.drugs.com/fda-approval-process.html

What I linked to is an overall process. That takes about 12 years. Within that process is the building or retrofitting of a facility to produce the material. This can take years depending how complicated the process is:

https://www.fda.gov/media/92827/download