Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Who the hell is Michael ó Regan???

Interesting reply from someone on the tweet you posted.

"Seems all the people at A+E departments and waiting on trollies which Minister Harris was crucified for in the past Dail term , have had miraculous recoveries since the Covid-19 epidemic started. Amazing coincidence"

He’s been an Irish times journalist for around 30 years.

Do they not teach you anything before doing this?

blanch152 wrote: »

Nah, the money goes into the North, don’t you remember Brexit and how all the Russian money went through the DUP because of the lax regulations in the North. I am certain you told us all about that, maybe I am wrong.

You are certain...gwan and show us where then.

Well, the same happens with the American money for SF. After that it’s easy to get it to those who need it.

So you have evidence then. Have you told the Revenue as is your duty?

Runaways wrote: »

Like you made up your SF getting money from US?

Weak deflection there blanch.

Meanwhile.

SF have never been in government.
And
https://twitter.com/michael_o_regan/status/1243988875531489280?s=21

So journalist praising Simon Harris while criticising all who have gone before is somehow an indictment of the current FG government. You have a talent for picking out twitter quotes that destroy your argument.

Runaways wrote: »

He’s been an Irish times journalist for around 30 years.

Do they not teach you anything before doing this?

And?

An I meant to be in awe or something?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You are certain...gwan and show us where then.

So you have evidence then. Have you told the Revenue as is your duty?

Ha ha, we are not a single country yet. Payments into the North are not covered by Revenue in the South.

Shefwedfan

Runaways wrote: »

I’m more concerned about TDs getting a 7 grand pay increase twice a year tbh

The same year FG refused pay increase for nurses an threatened them with fines if the went on strike.

But yeah you’re a afraid of some imaginary money SF get From America.

You deal in fiction blanch. Unless you can provide a link?

I suggest you try to read this, now try to read the whole article. I know it’s proved problematic before

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/tds-wages-jump-to-over-96000-after-pay-hike-heres-what-the-political-parties-have-said-about-it-so-far-38456577.html

PS SF did not say they wouldn’t accept it, onky the PBP party did, SF just said each TD could do what they wanted. Unless you have confirmation of something elsev

blanch152 wrote: »

Ha ha, we are not a single country yet. Payments into the North are not covered by Revenue in the South.

But you know od southern SF members getting extra unaccounted for money...you just claimed that.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Who the hell is Michael ó Regan???

Interesting reply from someone on the tweet you posted.

"Seems all the people at A+E departments and waiting on trollies which Minister Harris was crucified for in the past Dail term , have had miraculous recoveries since the Covid-19 epidemic started. Amazing coincidence"

Yeah I’ve been wondering about that myself - where are all the medical card lads with sore fingers now clogging up a&e facilities?? If anything comes of this, I hope criteria for waiting or being seen in a & e is severely tightened from now on. We don’t have a trolley crisis, we have hypochondriac wasters with too much time on their hands and a free pass clogging the system up

Runaways wrote: »

‘TDs' wages have jumped to over €96,000 a year following a pay rise over the weekend.

They will receive a 1.75 per cent pay increase that boosts their wages by over €1,600 a year in their next pay check.

And their salaries are set to rise even closer to the €100,000 mark next year.

Another increase that is also due under the Public Service Stability Agreement will bring their €96, 89 wages up to €98,113 on October 1 2020.’

Runaways wrote: »

I’m more concerned about TDs getting a 7 grand pay increase twice a year tbh

The same year FG refused pay increase for nurses an threatened them with fines if the went on strike.

But yeah you’re a afraid of some imaginary money SF get From America.

You deal in fiction blanch. Unless you can provide a link?

7k twice a year has now gone to €1,600. Wow, I am amazed that you continue to post on here after those barefaced lies.

Blaze420 wrote: »

Yeah I’ve been wondering about that myself - where are all the medical card lads with sore fingers now clogging up a&e facilities?? If anything comes of this, I hope criteria for waiting or being seen in a & e is severely tightened from now on. We don’t have a trolley crisis, we have hypochondriac wasters with too much time on their hands and a free pass clogging the system up

The " homeless" crisis keeps popping into my head.

A myth. Maggie Cash.

I've been saying it for years.

Shefwedfan

blanch152 wrote: »

7k twice a year has now gone to €1,600. Wow, I am amazed that you continue to post on here after those barefaced lies.

Notice the cut and paste job, I posted the actual article, the other lie was SF rejected the increase which is bulks**t....no surprise

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Notice the cut and paste job, I posted the actual article, the other lie was SF rejected the increase which is bulks**t....no surprise

I don't think anyone is taking said comrade seriously anymore.

Report back to HQ for debriefing.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

The " homeless" crisis keeps popping into my head.

A myth. Maggie Cash.

I've been saying it for years.

Totally agree with you. Safe to say sorting people like that out with “foreva homes” isn’t even in the list on the foreseeable future.

blanch152 wrote: »

So journalist praising Simon Harris while criticising all who have gone before is somehow an indictment of the current FG government. You have a talent for picking out twitter quotes that destroy your argument.

I’m come to the conclusion you just aren’t capable of basic comprehension

At least 30 years of FFG incompetence and ignorance dealing with health leading the HSE to be in the ****hole it currently is Harris is doing a good job with this pandemic. That was his point.

Blaze420 wrote: »

Totally agree with you. Safe to say sorting people like that out with “foreva homes” isn’t even in the list on the foreseeable future.

After this everyone knows we all need to contribute to the pot.

If you are too lazy then out on the streets with ya.

Blaze420 wrote: »

Yeah I’ve been wondering about that myself - where are all the medical card lads with sore fingers now clogging up a&e facilities?? If anything comes of this, I hope criteria for waiting or being seen in a & e is severely tightened from now on. We don’t have a trolley crisis, we have hypochondriac wasters with too much time on their hands and a free pass clogging the system up

...and successive governments that allowed it all happen, if that is the case...surely? Or is that SF's fault too?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

...and successive governments that allowed it all happen, if that is the case...surely? Or is that SF's fault too?

Didn’t mention SF - took a pandemic for people to wake the **** up and realise not every minor ache or pain needs a trip to A & E

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Notice the cut and paste job, I posted the actual article, the other lie was SF rejected the increase which is bulks**t....no surprise

You’re laughable.

Page one of google search has multiple stories of them rejecting the pay increase
Horses mouth
https://twitter.com/eobroin/status/1207652751842381824?s=21

Runaways wrote: »

I’m come to the conclusion you just aren’t capable of basic comprehension

At least 30 years of FFG incompetence and ignorance dealing with health leading the HSE to be in the ****hole it currently is Harris is doing a good job with this pandemic. That was his point.

Well if you want to judge FG on what happened in the past, I am happy to judge SF on what Gerry Adams, Martin Ferris and Dessie Ellis did in the past.

By any measure of a reasonable person, SF come off worse in that comparison.

So the logical conclusion from the tweet you posted is that you will be voting FG next time out, since you are quoting someone who says Simon Harris is currently doing a good job.

As a Green voter I am disappointed that the logic of your posts points to you voting FG, but maybe you will consider giving the Greens a decent preference.

Blaze420 wrote: »

Didn’t mention SF - took a pandemic for people to wake the **** up and realise not every minor ache or pain needs a trip to A & E

It has woken up the management of the HSE...of that we can be sure.
Can FG keep them 'woke' is the question. Not on their past record they can't...but who knows.

Runaways wrote: »

You’re laughable.

Page one of google search has multiple stories of them rejecting the pay increase
Horses mouth
https://twitter.com/eobroin/status/1207652751842381824?s=21

Except you haven’t produced any independent evidence that there was a 7k increase twice a year.

In fact, you just showed that you were a sucker for SF publicity without question. No more, no less.

blanch152 wrote: »

Well if you want to judge FG on what happened in the past, I am happy to judge SF on what Gerry Adams, Martin Ferris and Dessie Ellis did in the past.

By any measure of a reasonable person, SF come off worse in that comparison.

So the logical conclusion from the tweet you posted is that you will be voting FG next time out, since you are quoting someone who says Simon Harris is currently doing a good job.

As a Green voter I am disappointed that the logic of your posts points to you voting FG, but maybe you will consider giving the Greens a decent preference.

Yeah because salad and south facing windows and taxing the balls off everything that moves will get us get us outta this jam.
The greens are in cuckoo land as is anyone voting for them. Elements of The delusional d4 set no doubt

Stop using the world logical blanch. Fairly clear you don’t actually know what it means.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It has woken up the management of the HSE...of that we can be sure.
Can FG keep them 'woke' is the question. Not on their past record they can't...but who knows.

No it’s a wake up to call to everyone else that maybe, just maybe, the HSE aren’t really the boogeyman here- maybe we really do have section of society who couldn’t give a **** what service bandwidth they use because they get it for free? I mean we’ve seen them out and about the last 2 weeks doing what they want, when they want, coughing on people etc etc. Not hard to add 2&2 here and see a bigger picture.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It has woken up the management of the HSE...of that we can be sure.
Can FG keep them 'woke' is the question. Not on their past record they can't...but who knows.

The senior management of the HSE knew the problem, the issue always lay with the lower levels of management, those which neither the politicians nor the likes of Tony Holohan could micromanage.

I have been saying that for quite some time.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It has woken up the management of the HSE...of that we can be sure.
Can FG keep them 'woke' is the question. Not on their past record they can't...but who knows.

Isn't it great they won't be in government next so.

Blaze420 wrote: »

No it’s a wake up to call to everyone else that maybe, just maybe, the HSE aren’t really the boogeyman here- maybe we really do have section of society who couldn’t give a **** what service bandwidth they use because they get it for free? I mean we’ve seen them out and about the last 2 weeks doing what they want, when they want, coughing on people etc etc. Not hard to add 2&2 here and see a bigger picture.

Ah right...the old 'it isn't the fault of the people responsible, it's somebody else's.'

Excellent, I'm sure there will be a few green party supporters and those who support nobody, bailing in behind you with the same excusing.

Sultan_of_Ping

Runaways wrote: »

You’re laughable.

Page one of google search has multiple stories of them rejecting the pay increase
Horses mouth
https://twitter.com/eobroin/status/1207652751842381824?s=21

Sorry, what?

Don't SF MPs take the full measure of the queen's shilling without sitting and representing their constituents in Westminster?

Also, it's questionable whether SF TDs earn their money - they are hardly meeting the requirements of Art 16.2 of the Constitution, if, as Des Mackin says....

“We don’t want a parliamentary party running the organisation,” the senior party officer said. “We want to stay a party of activists. It’s a totally different model. There’s nothing mysterious about it.”

Plus there's that whole statement pledging fealty to the SF ard comhairle their TDs had to sign - their TDs sound like they are more like party apparatchiks than people's deputies!