Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Ballso wrote: »

Why don't they just say nothing? McDonald was calling for lockdown on the 23rd, against government and HSE strategy.

We do not need to hear from Sinn Fein, they have nothing to offer other than opportunist populist politics.

Look at the title of the thread you're posting in.25% of the results in the last election went to them no amount of spin will undo that.

Ballso

smurgen wrote: »

If they were saying a week later I'd be concerned.they were being conservative.

Why don't they just say nothing? McDonald was calling for lockdown on the 23rd, against government and HSE strategy.

We do not need to hear from Sinn Fein, they have nothing to offer other than opportunist populist politics.

sliabh 1956

To be fair to Sinn Fein the reason they have gone quite is the fact that nobody wants to talk to them. They must be gutted just when it seemed as if there moment had come Covid 19 arrives on the scene . I think the Green party are showing a complete lack of leadership they are wanted by FG/FF but so far are not talking in any serious way

smurgen wrote: »

Just as cheap isn't the same.

Stop digging. Caught out on an outright lie :pac::pac::pac:

TheCitizen

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

This supposed working class party are leading the charge to put 150,000 construction workers on the dole

And two days later the caretaker government come to the same conclusion, didn't stop you bitching stupidly about SF though. A lot of childish nonsense spouted on here and none of it does any damage to SF whatsoever. Such moaning and bitching in the MSM re SF has proven beneficial to them in actual fact. Keep it up bitches.:pac:

Ballso wrote: »

SF supporters now denying that SF opposed government & HSE strategy by calling for lockdown a week ago.

TIMING is the most important factor in this crisis. But Sinn Fein always know better.

Timing on the Government's part has been excellent. Panic can cause so many problems and they have almost completely avoided it. Fair play.

Christ will those SF lads stop spreading misinformation!!!!

https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1243850605334061057?s=19

Ballso wrote: »

SF supporters now denying that SF opposed government & HSE strategy by calling for lockdown a week ago.

TIMING is the most important factor in this crisis. But Sinn Fein always know better.

If they were saying a week later I'd be concerned.they were being conservative.

Ballso wrote: »

SF supporters now denying that SF opposed government & HSE strategy by calling for lockdown a week ago.

TIMING is the most important factor in this crisis. But Sinn Fein always know better.

Go review rheir social media. They fully endorsed every measure.

all about the mane wrote: »

Liar

Just as cheap isn't the same. A 1% increase isn't setting the world alright especially given the austerity levels. Lot of good it's doing us too now that our mortgages are twice the EU average, more expensive than Greece's and the most expensive in Europe.

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/mortgage-rates-here-highest-in-eurozone-39044021.html

Ballso

SF supporters now denying that SF opposed government & HSE strategy by calling for lockdown a week ago.

TIMING is the most important factor in this crisis. But Sinn Fein always know better.

all about the mane wrote: »

Did you provide the link yet where Greece and Ireland are borrowing at the same rate?

smurgen wrote: »

Never said that.are you just out and out lying now?

Liar

smurgen wrote: »

Same with Greece . In fact they're borrowing at interest charges just as cheap as Ireland.

thomasdylan wrote: »

Why have you put medical professionals in quotes?

Eh...I was quoting the previous poster?

thomasdylan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Some 'medical professionals'.

Why have you put medical professionals in quotes?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But it wasn't clear and consistent...that is why the place is awash with evidence of people ignoring it.

Now we have the Gardai patrolling the streets with powers to enforce. i.e. Locking the gate after horses (that could have been controlled) have bolted.

I said we need clear and consistent messaging, and of course there will be gaps in that during a crisis.

But those gaps are by error not by design.

Phoebas wrote: »

It is, because it is very clear to all that the timing and the longevity of any lockdown is key to its success.
If you do it a week early then the sustainability of it is at risk.

We need clear consistent messaging from everyone in leadership positions, including SF, but they went off on a politically motivated tangent.

But it wasn't clear and consistent...that is why the place is awash with evidence of people ignoring it.

Now we have the Gardai patrolling the streets with powers to enforce. i.e. Locking the gate after horses (that could have been controlled) have bolted.

smurgen wrote: »

Show us where they went against the advice of the expert's?

Are you just playing dumb now?

If it was the advise of NPHET that we should have had a lockdown last week, we would have had a lockdown last week.

Runaways

It’s funny watching people just utterly making stuff up.

Heard Mary lou and Doherty in interviews during the week and they didn’t make this crisis political at all. In fact they were supportive of everything being done. I think at one stage she mentioned having an all island approach to it but we saw the DUP knock that in the head as usual.

The degree to which SF rattle certain people to such an extent they resort to making stuff up that just didn’t happen is quite funny.

Phoebas wrote: »

It is, because it is very clear to all that the timing and the longevity of any lockdown is key to its success.
If you do it a week early then the sustainability of it is at risk.

We need clear consistent messaging from everyone in leadership positions, including SF, but they went off on a politically motivated tangent.

Show us where they went against the advice of the expert's?

all about the mane wrote: »

Did you provide the link yet where Greece and Ireland are borrowing at the same rate?

Never said that.are you just out and out lying now?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Asking for a further step is not 'opposing' anything, they have been flat out across their social media and press releases endorsing the message given so far.. Catch yourself on.

It is, because it is very clear to all that the timing and the longevity of any lockdown is key to its success.
If you do it a week early then the sustainability of it is at risk.

We need clear consistent messaging from everyone in leadership positions, including SF, but they went off on a politically motivated tangent.

smurgen wrote: »

Did ya look up government long term debt in investopedia yet?

Did you provide the link yet where Greece and Ireland are borrowing at the same rate?

Phoebas wrote: »

SF have been opposing NPHET for almost a week now in calling for a lockdown when NPHET have been saying that the time was not right for it.

SF weren't doing this based on their own advise from their own team of doctors and epidemiologists - it was based on political opportunism. That is the height of arrogance in the middle of a crisis.

Asking for a further step is not 'opposing' anything, they have been flat out across their social media and press releases endorsing the message given so far.. Catch yourself on.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What have they 'opposed' in relation to the Virus?

smurgen wrote: »

Show us a link where they're arrogantly dismissing the advise from NPHET?

SF have been opposing NPHET for almost a week now in calling for a lockdown when NPHET have been saying that the time was not right for it.

SF weren't doing this based on their own advise from their own team of doctors and epidemiologists - it was based on political opportunism. That is the height of arrogance in the middle of a crisis.

dh1985

smurgen wrote: »

That's because the UK government and their experts weren't recommending it at the time. SF in the north called for this however. But some FG lads in here would have called that dissenting voice wreckless and that maybe SF should have just shut up there also and listen to Westminster and their experts.

Exactly the same as what FG are doing here, listening to the experts but yet you are criticising that course of action saying they did not go into lockdown sooner. Against the advise of hoolihan.
Hypocritical comes to mind

Phoebas wrote: »

It is SF who were arrogantly dismissing advise from NPHET not the other way around.

But you're right - we cannot ask for all shoulders to be put to the wheel. We know that SF will continue to do what SF tend to do; oppose for the sake of opposition.

What have they 'opposed' in relation to the Virus?

all about the mane wrote: »

Its always someone else's fault.

Did ya look up government long term debt in investopedia yet?

smurgen wrote: »

That's because the UK government and their experts weren't recommending it at the time. SF in the north called for this however. But some FG lads in here would have called that dissenting voice wreckless and that maybe SF should have just shut up there also and listen to Westminster and their experts.

Its always someone else's fault.

Phoebas wrote: »

It is SF who were arrogantly dismissing advise from NPHET not the other way around.

But you're right - we cannot ask for all shoulders to be put to the wheel. We know that SF will continue to do what SF tend to do; oppose for the sake of opposition.

Show us a link where they're arrogantly dismissing the advise from NPHET?