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2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

notobtuse

With Nancy Pelosi’s Schiff Show Sham of an impeachment over (well, all but over, anyway) time to turn to the US presidential election.

So, who is left:

Donald Trump (R): You wanted change, you got change... Trump change!

Joe Biden (D): Distracted by shiny objects!
Bernie Sanders (I - running as a D, what's up with that?): On a scale of Mao to Stalin, how bad would a president Bernie be?
Elizabeth Warren (D): Little Chief Gonna Spend A Lot.
Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D): Portrait of a young bull$hit artist.
Andrew Yang : Vote for me and I’ll give you $12,000.
Mike Bloomberg (?): Who says you can’t buy an election?
Tulsi Gabbard (D): I guess it’s true you never piss off the Clintons.
Amy Klobuchar (D) and the rest of the also-rans: Who?

And then there’s Hillary Clinton (Witch), waiting in the wings for a contested convention so her superdelegates buddies can hand her the nomination: Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire!

Personally, when Pelosi, who had to impeach Trump immediately because he was such a threat to the nation, and then waited a month to walk the articles of impeachment in a stupid procession over to the Senate... it was like she was walking with Trump’s reelection papers.

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kilns

notobtuse wrote: »

Did he really CALL for all churches around the country to be opened and packed on Easter? Please show me this. In addition if he was noting churches that relates to 'everything' in your book?

Please show me a country, any country, that doesn't sacrifice lives for the economy. Please show me where any country will provide a heart transplant, liver transplant, kidney transplant, etc, to EVERYONE, or the most expensive drugs imaginable to EVERYONE in need?

Yes he did I am sure you were glued to his Fox News town hall where he said those exact words, its always the thing with Trump he is very easy to quote and yet he and his supporters try to always back track.

wow show me a country that will take a conscience decision to prioritise its economy over a the life a person. Why is it only the US which are talking about getting the country back to business rather than cocentrating its full efforts into defeating the pandemic. Its ironic you talk about the most expensive drugs imaginable, I wonder which country rips off their citizens with the price of drugs.

Timberrrrrrrr

notobtuse wrote: »

I really need to get me one of those 'Trump Translators' some posters here seem to have. It must be an amazing thing.

Trump: 'We have a beautiful strong military'
Trump Translator: 'Trump declares war on Russia'

:rolleyes:

What's your thoughts on his listing people who were on the call the other day? Why was he waffling about Tom Brady? Did that sound like an intelligent man taking the lead amid a national crisis to you?

Outlaw Pete

Billy Mays wrote: »

Trumpers and their lack of self awareness :pac:

Funny, but I think it's the other way around, but anyway, against my better judgement I'll respond to the following nonsense:

"the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero"

The 'zero' in that Trump quote was referring to the deaths within the "original 15" infections. He was not claiming, as you are scurrilously suggesting, that there would be zero cases of the coronavirus in the States going forward.

That quote, by the way, was taken from an interview on Feb 26th and here's another quote from it. When asked if he thinks the virus will spread further:

It possibly will. It could be at a very small level or it could be at a larger level. Whatever happens, we’re totally prepared. We have the best people in the world. You see that from the study. We have the best prepared people, the best people in the world.

Congress is willing to give us much more than we’re even asking for. That’s nice for a change. But we are totally ready, willing, and able. It’s a term that we use. It’s “ready, willing, and able.” And we have — we have — it’s going to be very well under control.

Now, it may get bigger, it may get a little bigger. It may not get bigger at all. We’ll see what happens. But regardless of what happens, we are totally prepared.

Sure doesn't sound to me like he is saying that there will be "zero" cases from that day on but no doubt you'll keep posting that quote out of context nevertheless. Same thing happened with his Charlottesville presser remarks of course. The left like to take a line, quote it totally out of context, so they can pretend he has said something which he hasn't.

Four weeks before that interview, at the end of Jan, the Trump administration put travel restrictions from China in place, declared a public health emergency and established the coronavirus task force with some of the top experts from around the world.

What was the Democratic Presidential candidate doing at that time?

Suggesting Trump's a racist:

https://twitter.com/JustinPulitzer/status/1240821941306634241

notobtuse

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He said it was a timeline that he was "aiming at / thinking about" as it would be a "beautiful time" but that he "wasn't sure" that would be the date.

Essentially he was just trying to keep the country optimistic and no doubt will listen to whatever advice he is given from the task force over the coming weeks.

In other words: nothing to see here.

I really need to get me one of those 'Trump Translators' some posters here seem to have. It must be an amazing thing.

Trump: 'We have a beautiful strong military'
Trump Translator: 'Trump declares war on Russia'

:rolleyes:

notobtuse

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Same as we are to believe one is a Republican and considering running for office while the other is a Democrat:rolleyes:

The republican daughter IS a politician currently dealing with the issues to the community brought about by the pandemic. They are in the process of building two new hospitals in her community and the old hospital is in the process of being converted to other needs/functions. Unfortunately the old hospital has stopped many procedures and types of care and people are having to be sent to hospitals 30 miles away. As she recently texted me... 'no protocol set up for something like this, so we are making it up as we go.'

The youngest is a registered democrat and hard-core liberal (aka young and foolish). But I see some hope... she recently said she detests Trump but the democrats are not offering her any worthwhile choices, so she doesn't know how she will vote in November.

Billy Mays

Trumpers and their lack of self awareness :pac:

Daddy's put on a disastrous live show in front of the cameras every day of the week since this whole thing started ffs

Fauci and Birx (the actual experts on all of this) visibly squirming as he spouts his daily dose of bullsh!t

"the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero"

humberklog

Sweden's Gov. advice at the beginning of their didn't get off to a great start either. The message only went out in Swedish which left some elderly immigrants in the dark apparently. So their Iranian and Somalia population took a heavy whacking. 5 out of the first 15 deaths were Somalian.

Outlaw Pete

notobtuse wrote: »

Did he really CALL for all churches around the country to be opened and packed on Easter?

He said it was a timeline that he was "aiming at / thinking about" as it would be a "beautiful time" but that he "wasn't sure" that would be the date.

Essentially he was just trying to keep the country optimistic and no doubt will listen to whatever advice he is given from the task force over the coming weeks.

In other words: nothing to see here.

MeMen2_MoRi_

When he was speaking, he was going on like it was "a sign" Easter weekend "perfect timing" to start relaxing things so people could pack churches and go worship. We know Donnie loves the ould Bible.

It's amazing how many times the man needs to make clear what he actually means, instead of saying it once and that's it.. it's as if he's waiting to see the reaction then go from there. The reaction to his first comments weren't good so he then "clarifies" things by telling people he didn't mean all.

notobtuse

Where’s Joe Biden been? After that disastrous live show he put on regarding COVID-19 and what HE would do (which just so happens to be pretty much what Trump HAD already done) I guess the DNC thinks it best to keep Joe tucked away and out of sight in his bizarre coronavirus bunker. I did see he started making the rounds on media friendly shows like The View the other day, but after stating on the show that a coronavirus cure will make the problem worse, perhaps his handlers think talk shows are too much for him, also.

notobtuse

Hunchback wrote: »

It is implicit, in his expressing his desire to see it happen. Also, by virtue of his position and the office he holds, expressing his desire has the same practical effect as a 'call' for something to happen

'Desire' is a whole other ball of wax.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

There was only 15 cases of the Coronavirus by February 20th in the US, I strongly doubt that user's daughter was one of first cases.

Her $13,000 hospital bill begs to differ.

Hunchback

notobtuse wrote: »

Did he really CALL for all churches around the country to be opened and packed on Easter? Please show me this. In addition if he was noting churches that relates to 'everything' in your book?

Please show me a country, any country, that doesn't sacrifice lives for the economy. Please show me where any country will provide a heart transplant, liver transplant, kidney transplant, etc, to EVERYONE, or the most expensive drugs imaginable to EVERYONE in need?

It is implicit, in his expressing his desire to see it happen. Also, by virtue of his position and the office he holds, expressing his desire has the same practical effect as a 'call' for something to happen

notobtuse

kilns wrote: »

So you would favour the country reopening to save the ecomony from a survival of the fittest economy by sacrificing a few lives

To your source simple, in his recent town hall he called for all churches around the country to be open and packed and said wouldnt it be beautiful and the very next day row back on that stating that it would be certain pockets only like the farmbelt and parts of Texas.

edit: I would just like to add a point that where you state the quality of human life depends on the strength of an ecomony. The US has had a strong ecomony now for a long time so why are people still suffering and denied basic human rights when it comes to stuff like health care

Did he really CALL for all churches around the country to be opened and packed on Easter? Please show me this. In addition if he was noting churches that relates to 'everything' in your book?

Please show me a country, any country, that doesn't sacrifice lives for the economy. Please show me where any country will provide a heart transplant, liver transplant, kidney transplant, etc, to EVERYONE, or the most expensive drugs imaginable to EVERYONE in need?

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There was only 15 cases of the Coronavirus by February 20th in the US, I strongly doubt that user's daughter was one of first cases.

Not a chance but he will claim it because he wants you to believe it,

Same as we are to believe one is a Republican and considering running for office while the other is a Democrat:rolleyes:

[Deleted User]

There was only 15 cases of the Coronavirus by February 20th in the US, I strongly doubt that user's daughter was one of first cases.

Boggles

At this point I am just convinced he is on troll.

No one could be that fúcking stupid.

kilns

notobtuse wrote: »

A stupid question that didn't really warrant an answer. But if you must... I value human life. But I know the quality of human life depends on the strength of the economy. You might consider a dog-eat-dog, every-man-for-himself, and survival-of-the-fittest lifestyle kinda appealing, that a failed economy would bring about, but I would wager most wouldn't.

Your turn to answer the question. Don't chicken out.

So you would favour the country reopening to save the ecomony from a survival of the fittest economy by sacrificing a few lives

To your source simple, in his recent town hall he called for all churches around the country to be open and packed and said wouldnt it be beautiful and the very next day row back on that stating that it would be certain pockets only like the farmbelt and parts of Texas.

edit: I would just like to add a point that where you state the quality of human life depends on the strength of an ecomony. The US has had a strong ecomony now for a long time so why are people still suffering and denied basic human rights when it comes to stuff like health care

notobtuse

kilns wrote: »

So as I asked previously which do you value higher the ecomony or human life?

A stupid question that didn't really warrant an answer. But if you must... I value human life. But I know the quality of human life depends on the strength of the economy. You might consider a dog-eat-dog, every-man-for-himself, and survival-of-the-fittest lifestyle kinda appealing, that a failed economy would bring about, but I would wager most wouldn't.

Your turn to answer the question. Don't chicken out.

kilns

notobtuse wrote: »

Source?

Of course the economy is a major concern. The last time things were this bad it took 12 years to recover and a World War that cost 75 million lives.

So as I asked previously which do you value higher the ecomony or human life?

deaglan1

2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)
Not very likely to be a Coronation if he lets the good ole USA become the world's number one Corona Nation.

notobtuse

kilns wrote: »

Wrong he was advised to row back on his initial claim, now he is talking about certain counties that may have a lower risk and they may open before it was the whole country.

Do you live in the USA? The current lockdown is unsustainable from what point of view, the economy? Economies will recover they always do or unsustainable from a point of view of saving lives. What do you value more a human life such as your own, your wifes, your parents your children or the economy because thats where the choice is and we know where Trumps values lie. He couldnt care less if 1 million died as long as his economy is back up and running by next November.

Source?

Of course the economy is a major concern. The last time things were this bad it took 12 years to recover and a World War that cost 75 million lives.

notobtuse

ronoc wrote: »

hmmm

Sauce 1 Sauce 2

People are concerned... SHOCK, HORROR, NEWS AT 11? Not at all shocking IMO the level amongst democrats given our biased media’s hysterical reporting and dem's love affair with them.

But Washington, DC (if that means Washington, DC and not the state... But the state does have reason to be concerned as their levels and lifestyle do warrant concerns) does have reason to be concerned. My youngest got the coronavirus in mid February. She’s a student at a large university in Washington, DC that has 26% international students... many of them from China and many who live on the same floor in her dorm. The city is filled with internationals and many are from the countries heavily hit with the coronavirus. She was in bed for a week and said it was the worst she felt in her life. She had gotten over it by the time I picked her up as the university closed down because of the number of students contracting COVID-19, and was no longer contagious at the time. But when I went to Washington I noticed there was still many people congregating together.

kilns

notobtuse wrote: »

Are you part of our biased media or just another poster living in Boggles Bubble? Why not trying the truth? It isn’t that difficult if you really try. What Trump said was he wants to begin lifting the current economic lockdown by Easter. He said his “goal is to ease the guidelines and open things up to very large sections of our country” and that “I hope we can do this by Easter,” but added that “our decision will be based on hard facts and data.”

What is wrong with that? Thank goodness an adult is running the country because Trump understands what his haters don't... The current lockdown is unsustainable!

Wrong he was advised to row back on his initial claim, now he is talking about certain counties that may have a lower risk and they may open before it was the whole country.

Do you live in the USA? The current lockdown is unsustainable from what point of view, the economy? Economies will recover they always do or unsustainable from a point of view of saving lives. What do you value more a human life such as your own, your wifes, your parents your children or the economy because thats where the choice is and we know where Trumps values lie. He couldnt care less if 1 million died as long as his economy is back up and running by next November.

Wanderer78

notobtuse wrote: »

Are you part of our biased media or just another poster living in Boggles Bubble? Why not trying the truth? It isn’t that difficult if you really try. What Trump said was he wants to begin lifting the current economic lockdown by Easter. He said his “goal is to ease the guidelines and open things up to very large sections of our country” and that “I hope we can do this by Easter,” but added that “our decision will be based on hard facts and data.”

What is wrong with that? Thank goodness an adult is running the country because Trump understands what his haters don't... The current lockdown is unsustainable!

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[Deleted User]

hmmm

Sauce 1 Sauce 2

notobtuse

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I can see Anthony Fauci resigning in the next few days.

Professionals and experts can only deal with Trump for so long because he is such a dumb ass.

"Everything open by Easter", lol

Are you part of our biased media or just another poster living in Boggles Bubble? Why not trying the truth? It isn’t that difficult if you really try. What Trump said was he wants to begin lifting the current economic lockdown by Easter. He said his “goal is to ease the guidelines and open things up to very large sections of our country” and that “I hope we can do this by Easter,” but added that “our decision will be based on hard facts and data.”

What is wrong with that? Thank goodness an adult is running the country because Trump understands what his haters don't... The current lockdown is unsustainable!

Wanderer78

Sawduck wrote:

Surely people won't vote for him after how badly he has handled this whole pandemic, his fan boys aren't that stupid, are they

His reelection still wouldn't surprise me

notobtuse wrote:

How exactly has he badly handled this whole pandemic? (Crystal balls, Ouija boards, and Zoltar Speaks machines do not count as confirmation)

notobtuse

Sawduck wrote: »

Surely people won't vote for him after how badly he has handled this whole pandemic, his fan boys aren't that stupid, are they

How exactly has he badly handled this whole pandemic? (Crystal balls, Ouija boards, and Zoltar Speaks machines do not count as confirmation)

Boggles

Sawduck wrote: »

Surely people won't vote for him after how badly he has handled this whole pandemic, his fan boys aren't that stupid, are they

Read a couple of posts up.