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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan

I haven't seen or heard anything from Mary Lou, Slab Murphy and other good Republicans in ages.

What's going on?

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Junkyard Tom

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

But I also sincerely hope there's a reckoning after all this is over

Yep, while the middle-aged, comfortably pensioned, property-owning Irish Indo/Times readers here shit their pants over the fall-off in the FF/FG vote there are hundreds of thousands of people asking the questions you've posed above.

suicide_circus

TheCitizen wrote: »

SF got 24.5% of the vote, more than any other party. It's not just unemployed people that vote SF but I'm sure they won't mind if your party continues to abandon the unemployed and give up on even trying to get their votes.

a huge amount of traditional working class Labour voters loaned their vote to BoJo in the last GE in the UK, this does not now make them Tories. A protest vote is a protest vote.

SEPT 23 1989

TheCitizen wrote: »

It's not just SF that are questioning the conditions for workers on building sites, the unions are as well but you're not interested in that.

The CIF which represents building employers they're calling for sites to remain open, you'd typically be on their side as opposed to the regular workers on the sites.

Anyone in the industry including workers I talk to want to see sites left open

Sinn Fein unions etc will reap what they sow

jimmycrackcorm

TheCitizen wrote: »

SF got 24.5% of the vote, more than any other party. It's not just unemployed people that vote SF but I'm sure they won't mind if your party continues to abandon the unemployed and give up on even trying to get their votes.

Strangely now we never hear about the mythical FFG party that SF voters were saying that they were the alternative to.

FFG, two cheeks of the same arse I heard more often than not, got twice as many seats.

TheCitizen

Praetorian wrote: »

I'd say if FG could orchestrate another election after the "emergency" has finished, I think they would do quite well. Honestly I think they are doing a very good job considering the circumstances.

Oh go ahead, go right ahead.

TheCitizen

Ballso wrote: »

You're right there, I would never vote SF now, despite giving them some preferences in the past. Populist vermin trading on fear and ignorance, I hope they get eviscerated in the next election.

:pac: Utter nonsense

TheCitizen

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

This supposed working class party are leading the charge to put 150,000 construction workers on the dole

It's not just SF that are questioning the conditions for workers on building sites, the unions are as well but you're not interested in that.

The CIF which represents building employers they're calling for sites to remain open, you'd typically be on their side as opposed to the regular workers on the sites.

TheCitizen

all about the mane wrote: »

SF’s base are the unemployed. They couldn’t care less about those actually working.

SF got 24.5% of the vote, more than any other party. It's not just unemployed people that vote SF but I'm sure they won't mind if your party continues to abandon the unemployed and give up on even trying to get their votes.

all about the mane

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

This supposed working class party are leading the charge to put 150,000 construction workers on the dole

SF’s base are the unemployed. They couldn’t care less about those actually working.

SEPT 23 1989

This supposed working class party are leading the charge to put 150,000 construction workers on the dole

Ballso

blanch152 wrote: »

What a ridiculous point to make.

This three-month rent freeze together with the other short-term measures is going to result in all of us paying a lot more taxes for two or three years and probably also see the frontline healthcare workers do without pay increases for the same time, and you think we can do it every week?

That is before I comment on how you compare people dying from Covid-19 to milleniums that can't afford an apartment near their mammy as being similar crises.

This sort of thing really gives an insight into what a Sinn Fein government would be like. We are doing enormous damage to the economy which will affect huge numbers of people's lives because the other choice is to let the vulnerable die. SF supporters think this should be the norm!!

blanch152

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I also think FG are handling this well, for the record. But I also sincerely hope there's a reckoning after all this is over, with why measures such as a rent freeze are considered acceptable to deal with one crisis (COVID-19) and not another crisis (a whole generation being f*cked over by high rents and seeing their lives slipping away). People shouldn't forget how quickly measures which were "impossible" a few weeks ago were introduced when a crisis appeared that had the potential to disrupt the lives of everyone, as opposed to one from which the establishment class are shielded.

What a ridiculous point to make.

This three-month rent freeze together with the other short-term measures is going to result in all of us paying a lot more taxes for two or three years and probably also see the frontline healthcare workers do without pay increases for the same time, and you think we can do it every week?

That is before I comment on how you compare people dying from Covid-19 to milleniums that can't afford an apartment near their mammy as being similar crises.

suicide_circus

TheCitizen wrote: »

:pac: SF aren't losing anything just because a few FG fanboys on Boards.ie are starting threads to bitch about them. The bitching about SF from FFG and their MSM media dogs like Pat Kenny and Miriam O'Callaghan if anything translated in to a growing of support for SF, it seems they never learn.

you misunderstand me comrade, the poster i was replying to was saying SF cant win; if they comment on the government's handling of the crisis they are playing politics at the wrong time, if they stay silent they are "vanishing" - a lose/lose situation. My point is, when they get into government they had better get used to this, when the hurlers on the ditch start at them.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I would dispute that actually.

It is a very simple task in many ways as everything else is on somewhat of a back burner.
FG have done well to hand over to the experts who are performing one of the most radical 'fixes' to our health system ever seen...including doing some things FG themselves have been stridently saying could never be done.

Will it be enough to fix what almost every FF FG member and supporter in this country thought was a problem too big to fix, remains to be seen.

Comparing what is happening now to before is ridiculous.

In the past, if we spent money like we are doing now our credit rating would drop and the economy would suffer as a result.

At least with COVID-19 being a global problem we should have access to cheap credit and even still we face austerity again.

Ballso

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I would dispute that actually.

Of course you would

maccored

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

From what I have seen, there is more SF ‘bots’ on here than all other party supporters combined.

here's a thought .. maybe they are SF supporters? Unless of course you can back up your 'bot' statement ... which we all know you cant as its something you've made up.

FrancieBrady

Ballso wrote: »

Running a caretaker government in the middle of a global pandemic is extremely difficult.

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I would dispute that actually.

It is a very simple task in many ways as everything else is on somewhat of a back burner.
FG have done well to hand over to the experts who are performing one of the most radical 'fixes' to our health system ever seen...including doing some things FG themselves have been stridently saying could never be done.

Will it be enough to fix what almost every FF FG member and supporter in this country thought was a problem too big to fix, remains to be seen.

Rodney Bathgate

Runaways wrote: »

there are pictures of Maria Bailey on a swing doing the rounds. ‘for the lolz’

Jaysis

Some dodgy tweets from Réada Cronin also resurfacing and ‘doing the rounds’.

Runaways

there are pictures of Maria Bailey on a swing doing the rounds. ‘for the lolz’

Jaysis

smurgen

Ballso wrote: »

Of course McDonald should self isolate if she is unwell, christ

Some would have her going around like patient 31 in South Korea infecting hundreds.

Ballso

Of course McDonald should self isolate if she is unwell, christ

smurgen

all about the mane wrote: »

How long will she self isolate this time? Now that was embarrassing

Like Eoghan Murphy?

[Deleted User]

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Staying home to look after her family during a frightening time for them? Embarrassing indeed I suppose, from the point of view of the FG types who don't understand concepts such as compassion.

She’s not looking after her family. She’s got cold like symptoms and she’s self isolating as a precaution. She’s handed over the reins to her deputy.

Praetorian

I'd say if FG could orchestrate another election after the "emergency" has finished, I think they would do quite well. Honestly I think they are doing a very good job considering the circumstances.

hatrickpatrick

all about the mane wrote: »

How long will she self isolate this time? Now that was embarrassing

Staying home to look after her family during a frightening time for them? Embarrassing indeed I suppose, from the point of view of the FG types who don't understand concepts such as compassion.

Ballso

TheCitizen wrote: »

You mean people like eFFing Blueshirt fanboys like you :pac:. sure you'd never vote SF anyway.

SF are not being irresponsible in this crisis at all, the opposite in fact. People will remember how bitter eFFing Blueshirts like you were and still are after the last election result and they will desert you even further if you can't grow up and respond to the changing demands of the Irish electorate. FFG Jobs for the boys and crony capitalism ain't going to cut it anymore.

You're right there, I would never vote SF now, despite giving them some preferences in the past. Populist vermin trading on fear and ignorance, I hope they get eviscerated in the next election.

piplip87

Field east wrote: »

Mary Lou got an opportunity to clarify how the Gov could use the circa 11bninthe escrow account re Apple and 100% yet again failed to do so. She threw out a few comments such as ‘we have to do extradionary things in extradinory Times’ and ‘ the Irish gov should not have challenged the decision by the EU’ suggesting that if it did not then it would have all that money to spend.

Yet SF have spent the majority of the time since we joined the EU blabbing on about Irish Sovereignty. Surely those who feel so strongly about Irish Sovereignty would the first to be up in arms about the "undemocratic EU" having more control over Irish Tax laws..... Well i suppose it doesn't sound so good

TheCitizen

Ballso wrote: »

We have political parties who are serious in opposition. SF do not fit that description - overly simplistic garbage like talking about 'de apple money' in the middle of a crisis is irresponsible in the extreme. Running a government is extremely complex, there aren't simple solutions for everything and everything is a balancing act. Running a caretaker government in the middle of a global pandemic is extremely difficult.

SF aren't the only ones whe do the populist schtick nonsense but people are utterly sick of it. People will remember.

You mean people like eFFing Blueshirt fanboys like you :pac:. sure you'd never vote SF anyway.

SF are not being irresponsible in this crisis at all, the opposite in fact. People will remember how bitter eFFing Blueshirts like you were and still are after the last election result and they will desert you even further if you can't grow up and respond to the changing demands of the Irish electorate. FFG Jobs for the boys and crony capitalism ain't going to cut it anymore.

Field east

Ballso wrote: »

We have political parties who are serious in opposition. SF do not fit that description - overly simplistic garbage like talking about 'de apple money' in the middle of a crisis is irresponsible in the extreme. Running a government is extremely complex, there aren't simple solutions for everything and everything is a balancing act. Running a caretaker government in the middle of a global pandemic is extremely difficult.

SF aren't the only ones whe do the populist schtick nonsense but people are utterly sick of it. People will remember.

Mary Lou got an opportunity to clarify how the Gov could use the circa 11bninthe escrow account re Apple and 100% yet again failed to do so. She threw out a few comments such as ‘we have to do extradionary things in extradinory Times’ and ‘ the Irish gov should not have challenged the decision by the EU’ suggesting that if it did not then it would have all that money to spend.

Ballso

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If we are going to attach a seriousness and duty to 'government', then there has to be a seriousness and duty to opposition.

You have to be brave enough to speak up if you see a failure or a lapse...even at the expense of your own popularity.

We have political parties who are serious in opposition. SF do not fit that description - overly simplistic garbage like talking about 'de apple money' in the middle of a crisis is irresponsible in the extreme. Running a government is extremely complex, there aren't simple solutions for everything and everything is a balancing act. Running a caretaker government in the middle of a global pandemic is extremely difficult.

SF aren't the only ones whe do the populist schtick nonsense but people are utterly sick of it. People will remember.