Coronavirus

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I don't want to explain anything to you... sorry, I am exercising my civil liberty.

Do you think I am going to recite legislation to you ? While you sit back and annihilate every concept?

Get your own details please. Don't be so lazy, it gets boring after a while.

So you cant explain what liberties will be affected? Well I for one am not surprised at all

Dohnjoe

paddythere wrote: »

1.) Its a little more intricate than than pure bribery.

Interesting, so explain it with details.

2.) Large corporations. (who will benefit hugely from this virus as smaller competitors will be wiped out)

Okay, so you have widespread evidence for this or it's purely appeal to motive fallacy?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you're the one making wild claims not us.

I know, you are like the government... they offer nothing and take everything.

Who is us btw ?

Are you part of a group of posters by any chance?

paddythere

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Interesting, so explain it with details.

Okay, so you have widespread evidence for this or it's purely appeal to motive fallacy?

You don't think Large corporations have any influence over politics? Is it really necessary for me to cite some of the endless examples

sbsquarepants

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It will allow them to increase their frontline delivery, increase Garda numbers and hospital workers and civil defence. That mightn't be a bad thing either.

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You do realise that people have been pleading for these things to happen for years?

There was nothing standing in the way except money. There was certainly no need to engineer some diabolical plan to sneak these measures in behind peoples backs!

Lonesomerhodes

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So you cant explain what liberties will be affected? Well I for one am not surprised at all

That fact you are STRONGLY suggested to be incarcerated in your home and can be kidnapped at will due to new fascist, woops Covid legislation tells you everything.

Your main civil liberty is freedom (what little of it we have) and that can be taken away willy nilly now.

Here's actual wording from it

The emergency legislation also contains powers to detain those suspected of being infected with Covid-19.

Under the government’s emergency measures, if a medical officer believes “in good faith” that a person is a potential source of Covid-19 or that the person is a potential risk to public health and refuses or is unlikely to self-isolate, then the medical officer can order their detention and enforce isolation.

Medical officers can order a person’s detention in a specified hospital or another place until the medical officers decide the person’s detention to self-isolate is no longer required.

Go on tell us how wonderful it is for people to be dragged away due to a runny nose or something else equally trivial.

How can you have liberties if they can be taken away?.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I know, you are like the government... they offer nothing and take everything.

Who is us btw ?

Are you part of a group of posters by any chance?

Us is the group of posters who think you are talking rubbish. as per.

sbsquarepants wrote: »

You do realise that people have been pleading for these things to happen for years?

There was nothing standing in the way except money. There was certainly no need to engineer some diabolical plan to sneak these measures in behind peoples backs!

I don't think anyone involved in the Irish Government has one iota of the conspiracy they are involved in. They are just doing what their advisers tell them at this stage.

The virus is completely political now.

The loss of civil liberties does not concern the conspirators, they are only interested in wealth maximisation and control over the global economy. They assimilate governments' to facilitate their agenda.

Dohnjoe

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

That fact you are STRONGLY suggested to be incarcerated in your home and can be kidnapped at will due to new fascist, woops Covid legislation tells you everything.

Question:

If there were confirmed cases of Covid19 at your job and your boss told you to go home, would your boss be doing so for fascist reasons or common sense reasons?

Likewise, if your doctor suggested you stay at home, are they doing so to usher in some sort of neo-fascist state or for common sense reasons?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Us is the group of posters who think you are talking rubbish. as per.

How can you personally speak for other posters?

I am confused, are you trying to bully my opinion?

Why would you do that?

Stating that you are part of a larger group is extremely discriminatory, why are you doing that?

IAMAMORON wrote: »

How can you personally speak for other posters?

I am confused, are you trying to bully my opinion?

Why would you do that?

Stating that you are part of a larger group is extremely discriminatory, why are you doing that?

Bullying you? LOL.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Bullying you? LOL.

Do you find bullying funny?

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Do you find bullying funny?

I find the suggestion that people saying that you post nonsense constitutes bullying to be very funny. Spare us the act.

EyesClosed wrote: »

So you don't have any details? grand thanks

Outdoor festivals and large gatherings have been banned.

You can't even go for a pint.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Outdoor festivals and large gatherings have been banned.

You can't even go for a pint.

Do you understand how a virus works??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

I am assuming you will think this link is part of the problem....but it uses logic, reason and yes scientific data.....SCARY STUFF

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Outdoor festivals and large gatherings have been banned.

You can't even go for a pint.

I can.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I find the suggestion that people saying that you post nonsense constitutes bullying to be very funny. Spare us the act.

No I cannot agree if I am honest.

The tone of your posts seem very sinister.

Who is this us you are referring to?

Who are these people you are taking about?

You are either imagining that you are part of a collective or you aren't. Which are you?

Lonesomerhodes

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Question:

If there were confirmed cases of Covid19 at your job and your boss told you to go home, would your boss be doing so for fascist reasons or common sense reasons?

Likewise, if your doctor suggested you stay at home, are they doing so to usher in some sort of neo-fascist state or for common sense reasons?

You can only cross a bridge when you come to it so I don't know. I'd imagine I'd go home, can't hold a gun to my bosses head to stay in now can I?. , could happen doing nothing here anyway to be frank.

I never said anything about Doctors advising you to stay home I said people suspected of having it with no test being done being forced into quarantine, completely and totally different thing.

EyesClosed wrote: »

Do you understand how a virus works??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

I am assuming you will think this link is part of the problem....but it uses logic, reason and yes scientific data.....SCARY STUFF

The Washington Post is a liberal rag... it means nothing.

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

I never said anything about Doctors advising you to stay home I said people suspected of having it with no test being done being forced into quarantine, completely and totally different thing.

Who has been forced into quarantine??? nobody that's who.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

No I cannot agree if I am honest.

The tone of your posts seem very sinister.

Who is this us you are referring to?

Who are these people you are taking about?

You are either imagining that you are part of a collective or you aren't. Which are you?

I'm not part of any collective. But you cannot deny that there a couple of posters here who think you are posting nonsense. And describing my posts as sinister is just lunacy.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The Washington Post is a liberal rag... it means nothing.

FFS, Typical of conspiracy nuts to dispel a scientific article because they don't like the source reporting it. They usually then go on to post a random youtube video of some unknown neckbeard telling us he has "seen proof" of < insert conspiracy> and expect us to believe that source.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm not part of any collective. But you cannot deny that there a couple of posters here who think you are posting nonsense. And describing my posts as sinister is just lunacy.

I think he is posting nonsense......that makes two of US!!!!!

EyesClosed wrote: »

I think he is posting nonsense......that makes two of US!!!!!

Ah damn, do I have to pay club fees? Do I get a badge or at least access to the secret handshake?

EyesClosed wrote: »

Who has been forced into quarantine??? nobody that's who.

I have.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm not part of any collective. But you cannot deny that there a couple of posters here who think you are posting nonsense. And describing my posts as sinister is just lunacy.

I don't agree with you.

I think you are biased.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I have.

Can you leave your house right now? Is there a guard at your door stopping you from going outside?

EyesClosed wrote: »

I think he is posting nonsense......that makes two of US!!!!!

So you are part of the collective?

Lonesomerhodes

EyesClosed wrote: »

Who has been forced into quarantine??? nobody that's who.

Never said anyone was, swear you people only see what you want from posts and never read anything.

I gave reference to the article several times now

https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-returns-covid-19-5050041-Mar2020/

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0317/1123748-cabinet/

Bill only coming into law but it will lead to people being dragged off to quarantine in the very near future.

Gotta tool up to fight this extreme fascism!.