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Special Forces ultimate hell week

Capt Peacock

Anyone seen the advert for this, looks another crappy RTE rip off of a UK programme. Soldiers screaming and shouting at recruits then pouring a flask of water over some poor saps head haha.

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Naggdefy

Expose the boys to corona virus

I presume CS gas does no long-term damage. What does it do to the lungs?

Edit: I see it's tear gas.

Andrew00

Wow this gas thing is extreme

Naggdefy

2 good men left tonight with injury. I would have felt both had a great chance of passing.

Number 4. If he can get through he'll earn it. Hearing all that from several comrades would be harder than any task I'd say.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Naggdefy wrote: »

Number 4. If he can get through he'll earn it. Hearing all that from several comrades would be harder than any task I'd say.

Number 4 is the 'heat seeker' at the moment, but he can recover.

What's a 'heat seeker', he/she is the soldier who comes up on everyone's radar for the wrong reasons. No.4 is the heat seeker right now.

The opposite of the heat seeker is 'The Grey Man'.. He/she doesn't excel at anything really but they're not the f*ck up or the mouth piece either, they just get on with things and fly just below the radar.

I haven't heard it used yet but something you'll hear in the DF is 'be the grey man'.. If at the end of the course and no one really notices much about you you're the grey man.

Now that the field is being thinned down we're starting to see who the heat seeker is and who might be the grey man. The grey man will likely to be there if not at the end he'll be pretty close.

Who's your grey man?.. I have the guys face in my mind but can't remember his number, a Dublin lad.

Naggdefy

Kian Powerful Velcro wrote: »

Number 4 is the 'heat seeker' at the moment, but he can recover.

What's a 'heat seeker', he/she is the soldier who comes up on everyone's radar for the wrong reasons. No.4 is the heat seeker right now.

The opposite of the heat seeker is 'The Grey Man'.. He/she doesn't excel at anything really but they're not the f*ck up or the mouth piece either, they just get on with things and fly just below the radar.

I haven't heard it used yet but something you'll hear in the DF is 'be the grey man'.. If at the end of the course and no one really notices much about you you're the grey man.

Now that the field is being thinned down we're starting to see who the heat seeker is and who might be the grey man. The grey man will likely to be there if not at the end he'll be pretty close.

Who's your grey man?.. I have the guys face in my mind but can't remember his number, a Dublin lad.

I suppose my grey men are the ones least interviewed. Maybe the Dublin fella with the longish hair.

The twins, Jason Black, while not in trouble, were conspicuous.

4 and 11 are too but more for weaknesses.

Mantis Toboggan

Number 13 from Naas is the grey man imo.

siblers

If this is based on basic training opposed to Rangers training, then why did the women struggle so much? There are Irish women who would have passed basic training so I'd have thought some of the women would have gone further than they did

Mantis Toboggan

Did Jason Black get the rib broken in the fight?

arybvtcw0eolkf

siblers wrote: »

If this is based on basic training opposed to Rangers training, then why did the women struggle so much? There are Irish women who would have passed basic training so I'd have thought some of the women would have gone further than they did

In the last series the women done well and if I recall correctly one made it through to the end.

I guess the show just didn't get the same caliber of female this series, that's not to take too much away from the ladies who had the courage to take on the course but that's just how it goes.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Did Jason Black get the rib broken in the fight?

That's how it seems.

Fractured or bruised ribs are agony, you can't breath, laugh, cough, sneeze, fart etc etc.. Every movement is agony with injured ribs.

You can be the fittest and mentally toughest but injuries are injuries and feck all you can do if its bad enough.

Princess Calla

Kian Powerful Velcro wrote: »

In the last series the women done well and if I recall correctly one made it through to the end.

I guess the show just didn't get the same caliber of female this series, that's not to take too much away from the ladies who had the courage to take on the course but that's just how it goes.

I don't think they had that hill challenge last year. That challenge sent the girls home.

I know myself from hiking with gear, it's the gear itself that kills me. The distance and incline I'm grand with... Well no one really likes a steep hill... But the weight on my back, disaster. (a 45lb bag is fairly close to half my body weight... Killer)

Then trying to keep pace with someone taller (which in my case is everyone

) is an extra strain.

The girls would have passed that challenge if it wasn't timed.

Just unfortunate that challenge came first.

rob316

Great show, they have really upped it this season with the challenges too. I was wondering when they were going to expose them to tear gas.

deisemum

This is my favourite tv show at the moment. The DSs are hilarious.

Fair play to anyone who goes on the show. Everytime I watch this show it reminds me how disgraceful it is that our defence forces are so badly paid. Maybe all TDs should have to do Hell Week to appreciate those who protect them.

Mantis Toboggan

deisemum wrote: »

This is my favourite tv show at the moment. The DSs are hilarious.

Fair play to anyone who goes on the show. Everytime I watch this show it reminds me how disgraceful it is that our defence forces are so badly paid. Maybe all TDs should have to do Hell Week to appreciate those who protect them.

No offence to the defence forces but they don't really protect us from anything apart from the army bomb disposal team. Irish army would rarely if ever be involved in combat.

Muahahaha

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

No offence to the defence forces but they don't really protect us from anything apart from the army bomb disposal team. Irish army would rarely if ever be involved in combat.

Theres a number of ARW out in Mali right now. I'd be surprised if they are not coming under fire as the French army have already lost lots of soldiers out there, 13 died in a helicopter crash only last November. They're trying to put down an insurgency, Its a warzone out there.

rob316 wrote: »

Great show, they have really upped it this season with the challenges too. I was wondering when they were going to expose them to tear gas.

Im just waiting on them to be exposed to artillery fire next

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

No offence to the defence forces but they don't really protect us from anything apart from the army bomb disposal team. Irish army would rarely if ever be involved in combat.

Well we've served and been in combat in places such as Lebanon (I think 46 of us have been killed there and many others injured), Somalia, Liberia (where Irish soldiers brought the warlord Charles Taylor to trial), Chad, Mali (three pers were injured in an IED explosion last week), Kosovo, Syria etc.

I'll take just one of those missions, Lebanon. Because of our services and sacrifices there is now a whole generation of children in Lebanon who have never known war, and that's remarkable in a country which has seldom known peace in the last 50 yrs.

But we'll just look at back home, we do a lot but I'll concentrate on the DF EOD that you seem to have familiarized yourself with.

How many EOD personnel are involved in an EOD call out?. Who drives them to the location, who provides them for their needs (comms, rations, medics etc?), who secures the location once they're on scene?.

Its reckoned it takes between 4-5 logs pers to support one front line soldier. I read that the EOD were called out to over 170 devises last year.

When you put the numbers together it starts to get very big.

There are lots of other in country things to do, like securing Portloaise prison, escorting the countries most dangerous prisons too and from there to court, hospitals and other essentials.

Then there are other things like aid to the civil authorities, the lads from Sarsfield barracks are busying providing flood relief in the mid-west for example.

For other examples of what the DF do (I'm including the navy and air corps in this) you can check out their roles on military.ie The DF also have a very informative YouTube and Twitter channel's .

We don't have to be involved in combat to be an effective DF, but we're ready to a level with the best in the world.

There are very few soldiers sitting around doing nothing, for a tiny organisation we more than punch above our weight.

Btw, no offence taken. Most civilians with no connection with the DF have no idea how busy we are and what we've done in the past, the present and what we're preparing for in the future. Our political masters ensure you're kept in ignorance so we're treated like a nuisance, we don't enjoy the support of much of the population in terms of our demands for pay parity (for example) and why should we (be supported)?, you're purposely kept in ignorance.

So no offence taken.

jimbobaloobob

Well said Malikomi. I think that puts it to bed for future posters of the same quote.
Other poster mentioned Mali. I’ve two school friends in Mali right now with the FFL and you’re right it’s a war zone with so many borders it’s like stopping water pouring out a sieve.

Back on the programme I think quote of the series so far is
‘It’s like watching a fight in a nursing home’ when the two eldest guys took to the ring.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Did Jason Black get the rib broken in the fight?

Yeah I think he landed badly on the sandbags and bust a rib. I was guessing it was going to be very difficult for him to survive if it was broken as I've broken ribs in the past and heavy breathing or exercise is a killer as is reaching or lifting heavy objects.

Its a pity as I think he would have done very well. I know him personally and he is in top physical condition and had the mentality and will power to complete the course.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Looks like they're abseiling down the water tower in The Curragh (85ft high), this will put the sh*ts up the candidates!

Princess Calla

Kian Powerful Velcro wrote: »

Looks like they're abseiling down the water tower in The Curragh (85ft high), this will put the sh*ts up the candidates!

The stepping over is the absolute hardest part, all natural survival instinct kicks in, but once you're perpendicular it's absolutely great craic.

Need to trust your partner and gear though.

I think all of the candidates that struggled on the bridge have gone, if they were still there I'd say this will break them.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Princess Calla wrote: »

The stepping over is the absolute hardest part, all natural survival instinct kicks in, but once you're perpendicular it's absolutely great craic.

Need to trust your partner and gear though.

I think all of the candidates that struggled on the bridge have gone, if they were still there I'd say this will break them.

If this is PASS/FAIL we'll see a few drop out, and fair fcuks to anyone who attempts it.

Will the heat seeker bottle it, will the grey man step up to the plate?.

Mantis Toboggan

Rough stuff again tonight!!

Princess Calla

Jaysus your man's feet. Wtf!!!

Muahahaha

Very good episode. Fair balls to them for walking down that tower. The scenes at Glendalough were pretty good too.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Princess Calla wrote: »

Jaysus your man's feet. Wtf!!!

I've seen all sorts of foot ailments, but Jesus I've never seen anything like that.

No one else has the same ailment so I can only guess its down to the candidates own neglect.

Good episode.

A little terminology from tonight's show.

When they call the Orderly Sgt 'Orderly Dog' or 'Orderly Snake', they're just slag names used for the same thing 'Orderly Sgt'.

When the candidates were told to ''issuing out a bollocking quietly'', a 'bottling' is just someone giving you to you.

The abseiling bit, a recruit has to know that they'll never be asked to do something which is humanly impossible 'nor will they be asked to do something their NCO/DS hasn't done a number of times themselves.

Princess Calla

I was surprised that the abseiling was walking down front ways, the weather was feckin awful too.

Number 7 featured a fair bit, hadn't noticed him before. He was abit of a dark horse.

technocrat

Kian Powerful Velcro wrote: »

Looks like they're abseiling down the water tower in The Curragh (85ft high), this will put the sh*ts up the candidates!

Watching it now. Looks scary as hell!!!

siblers

The absailing looked technically very difficult, trying to get on the correct position going over the ledge looked incredibly awkward

Muahahaha

Yeah it really is mind over matter stuff to be staring face down such a drop, you're putting your life and trust in the equipment and the guy feeding the rope.

My favourite part of the abseiling was when one recruit was struggling and flapping his legs about everywhere and Ger Reidy shouts up the tower "Its not Dancing with the Stars!". I pissed myself laughing at that one.

mloc123

The guy that is a professional triathlete seems like a bit of a spoofer? I looked up his race results and most people I know that do it as a hobby would be better.