anewme wrote: Do you think women's interests are shopping, embroidery and nagging, or would it be sexist to assume that ?
boardise wrote: » Women talking is fine but their commentating on matches doesn't work for me. The nature of their vocal cords is such that when they try to inject excitement - their voice becomes discordant and shrill so they sound like demented fishwives.
anewme wrote: More sexist crap...women sound like demented fishwives.
Ironicname wrote: » Do you not find "positive" discrimination sexist?
anewme wrote: Do you believe that saying someone sounds like a demented fishwife is in any way positive or is meant in anything other than a negative way?
Silentcorner wrote: » You don't say.... Alex Scott, regardless of the amount of caps she has, wouldn't last a month in the semi pro leagues in the UK, that is Non League Football....she wouldn't last a month....there are about 4,000 professional male footballers in the UK at any given time...not including the Semi Pro leagues, there is probably a few dozen professional female players....do you understand that...a professional women's team has never beaten an Under 15 boys team anywhere...now, do you honestly believe I like pointing that out...it needs to be pointed out to put the level Alex Scott has achieved into perspective. You are in no position to talk about football if you don't understand the size of the sport and culture you are talking about let alone telling me what I am saying is "f##king ludicrous".
FunLover18 wrote: It's the same game! The tactics are the same, the formations are the same, the positions are the same, regardless of standard, Alex Scott was a professional with a 10+ year career in the same. You're insulting her and every professional female footballer by suggesting it's like getting 15 year olds to play. As someone pointed out most managers haven't even played at the highest levels. Experience and knowledge are not the same thing and that was my point when I brought up the football journalists earlier.
Ironicname wrote: » I think that was said to be intentionally offensive and to provoke your reaction. Will you answer my question?
FunLover18 wrote: » It's the same game! The tactics are the same, the formations are the same, the positions are the same, regardless of standard, Alex Scott was a professional with a 10+ year career in the same. You're insulting her and every professional female footballer by suggesting it's like getting 15 year olds to do the punditry. As someone pointed out most managers haven't even played at the highest levels. Experience and knowledge are not the same thing and that was my point when I brought up the football journalists earlier.
anewme wrote: But why do you think that's ok?
anewme wrote: Why are you questioning me and not the hate?
Blueshoe wrote: » I believe the ladies world cup winning United States soccer team played the Under 15 Dallas FC boys team in a warm up before a tournament and lost 5-2.
FunLover18 wrote: What's your point? Alex Scott has career spanning more than ten years. What aspect of the men's game do you think she shouldn't be able to comprehend?
FunLover18 wrote: » What's your point? Alex Scott has career spanning more than ten years. What aspect of the men's game do you think she shouldn't be able to comprehend?
Rikand wrote: » Marie Crowe is very good on the radio. Sadly shes saddled with those other two lemons.
Blueshoe wrote: » Definitely tokenism. Charity in a way. All of a sudden all sports across many channels now have female pundits on male sporting events. Pandering.
bubbles o hara wrote: » This pc gender crap has gone beyond ridiculous. I turn off the sports channels more often than I watch them now because of the 'token' women...and that's what they are, no matter how knowledgeable they may be. I would rather get a job based on my ability than my gender.
JRant wrote: » Brian Kerr /end thread Doesn't matter what bits a commentator has, if they're not Brian Kerr then they're not worth listening too. Should be classified as a national treasure at this stage.
Ironicname wrote: » I never said it was ok. Because I'm interested in your answer, not interested in scolding someone for making, at best, a joke, or at worst, an attempt to bait you to respond as you did.
anewme wrote: Do you really think it was 'a joke'?
anewme wrote: Why do you think baiting people by making sexist comments should not be challenged, but the people who challenge the sexist comments should be challenged themselves.?
anewme wrote: The pundit game can be a popularity contest. It's nothing to do with sport. Do you think Dunphy or Linekar or Kerr were ever the besth of players?
anewme wrote: Do you believe the Williams sisters are not fit to comment on tennis?
anewme wrote: The pundits role to engage the public (men and women) and extend viewing numbers. This skill is more about personality rather than being the best competitor the world. You dont need to be the best player in the world at any sport to be adequately able to discuss it in a value added manner.
anewme wrote: People here believe women do not have the necessary competencies to comment valuably on a sport they are dedicated to, while at the same time, accepting views of managers who were at best poor, if not players at all. They feel women would be best placed doing what they deem woman things, shopping, or doing embroidery, or nagging. Let's be honest, posters such as I am a Moran would be anhiliated if they started that crap in a workplace today.
Ironicname wrote: » You ask a lot of questions. Can you answer mine first before I tackle any more of yours? Are you in favour of "positive" discrimination or do you think it's sexism to get a job purely because of your sex and not your ability?
The Orb wrote: » Nominally it's the "same" game but you can't compare a professional career in women's football played in front of crowds in the hundreds with the elite level men's game. No doubt that some ex elite level pros are poor pundits but there is no doubt that any of the females that are appearing on TV now are pure tokens. None of them played a game that is even remotely like the premier league. Even if they know the rules and the tactics that doesn't qualify them to be there. Plenty of people know the theory, that doesn't mean you can talk about elite level participation. Watching panels with successful ex pros having to discuss a game with some token female is a joke, does anyone think that the lads take her seriously, how could they, she has no point of reference or cv. Frankly this sudden imposition of women into the men's game is a joke to satisfy some misguided equality agenda, none of them are there on merit, any achievements they had in the game were at a much much much lower level.
anewme wrote: I answered in my post if you read it.
