Silentcorner wrote: » Would you expect a 15 year old boy or an Amateur to have the same knowledge of the game as a man who played over 20 years at the highest level of the game do you think....should there be more 15 year old's on the punditry couch? I don't even understand why token presenters are included...wouldn't women in sport be much better served if we could actually watch women play and form a culture around a sport that we don't see every single week of every single year....I'd be all for that!!!
Silentcorner wrote: » I'd even doubt that....women's football is at the under 15 boys level. It's not fair to suggest that we all ignore that fact, I'd love to see more women's sport on TV but to shoehorn a few token presenters onto a TV show is doing very little...except raise topics like this...we all know they are token. Is that what women are becoming...mere tokens?
The Phantom Jipper wrote: » Who is saying 15 year olds should be TV pundits?
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » My point is men’s physical sport and females physical sport is different, games like darts snooker and horse racing the exceptions, but even then there is no contest really it’s the natural law
JRant wrote: » Sure, weren't RTE trying to get that domestic abuser Han Solo in the their panel for the last soccer tournament. Sure she won a world cup with the US women's team but could she do it on a cold wet Tuesday night against Stoke?
Andrew00 wrote: » Watching the Sunday Game now and they have a woman as a pundit. The two other lads on the panel arent even looking at her whilst they talk to eachother about hurling
Hoboo wrote: » It was domestic violence against two family members and the charges were dropped.
anewme wrote: » Is this a sexist anti woman thread? It reads very like that.
Silentcorner wrote: » Exactly.
Silentcorner wrote: » Well it does if you view it through a feminist lens....but then everthing does when you have those lens on. Look, we all enjoyed watching the Woman's hockey team reach the World Cup final...wouldn't it make more sense to show and promote more Women's hockey on tv it was refreshing to see a sport you don't often see...it was even better to watch the success....to encourage a new league perhaps with it's own culture... Nobody has an issue with watching or listening to women in sport, we all watched Sonia O'Sullivan, we watch the Olympics etc. What seems to be happening is that pundits are being recruited because of their genitals not because they can bring something to the discussion....that is neither fair on the individual nor the viewer or women.... The biggest problem women have in sport is that other women don't bother going to the matches...a few token pundits ain't going to change that in any meaningful way.
anewme wrote: » You mean when people refuse to accept a sexist lens as is evident here. I always find it funny on boards when women refuse to be second class citizens that they must be feminists. Stop trying to pigeonhole people into boxes to suit yourself and your narrative. If you appreciate football as a sport , you will know who Alex Scott is, the fact you refuse to acknowledge her, even asking, "who is this", shows your real Agenda.
IAMAMORON wrote: » You won't catch me clothes shopping for 5 hours on a Saturday just because women do.
anewme wrote: » I'm a woman and I've never spent 5 hours on a Saturday clothes shopping. Why do you believe this is what all women do? Do believe your statement above is generalising and sexist?
IAMAMORON wrote: » They also nag a lot, I try not to.
anewme wrote: » So "they"spend 5 hours in a Saturday shopping and nag a lot. Would you not for a moment consider women are individuals and have their own views and opinions and likes and dislikes or is that outside the remit of someone who accepts they are a complete moran?
IAMAMORON wrote: » Yes there are a considerable amount of women out there who spend their time shopping and or nagging and or both, simultaneously. You also get women who are into embroidery. That does not mean that I have to be into embroidery to prove I am not a sexist. The fact remains that women and men can have separate interests. There will be occasions when they share interests but it is less common than you imagine. Fashion tends to be more popular with women than men. That does not make fashion sexist? Even if all the best designers are men:p:p
anewme wrote: the remit of someone who accepts they are a complete moran?
FunLover18 wrote: » You haven't even looked up the careers of the women you're complaining about. You say you don't want people hired because of their genitals, as I pointed out before they haven't plucked these women off the streets. Alex Scott had over 100 international caps for England, regardless of the standard of the women's game (which I don't know much about) she has played football professionally and watches football and has an opinion on football that she can back up which is more than you or I can do. Honestly a lad on a couch saying a professional athlete shouldn't be allowed do punditry on her sport because of her genitals is fúcking ludicrous.
anewme wrote: Instead of accepting that men and women are individuals with their own opinions, likes, dislikes and opinions, you choose to push that women are all the same, obsessed with shopping, embroidery and nagging.
Ironicname wrote: » Men and women are indeed all individuals who think and act differently. However, there is a reason why stereotypes exist, and that's because the vast majority of women and men like different things. Nothing wrong with that.
