markodaly wrote: » In some ways, I do not mind SF doing these rallies. Its the return of street politics which will not curry favor with voters. I guess SF has to appear to be doing 'something' instead of actually trying to govern. Let them make a tit out of themselves.
Suckit wrote: » Why would O'Broin have answers for Eoghan Murphys incompetence?
blanch152 wrote: » There is a difference between private meetings of party members as in the Maria Bailey case and public rallies designed to apply pressure and intimidation to other elected politicians. That doesn't prevent you trying to conflate the two in a typical example of spin and misinformation.
BluePlanet wrote: » Initimidation? REally now blanch152. Can you explain how a public rally is 'intimidation'? Now maybe if they were standing out front Micheál Martin's house doing it, sure that would be intimidating. But just having a rally is not intimidation.
all about the mane wrote: » They’ll do absolutely everything...except what they need to do
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » How is Murphy incompetent when we are building to the capacity that we have? Are you aware of any unemployed builders? If anyone is incompetent is it not the SF councillors who are as vocal an anyone else about nimby objections to building. Seems that of you're not delivering hundreds of thousands of houses using monopoly money that you are deemed incompetent.
all about the mane wrote: » What’s the point of the public rally?
Suckit wrote: » Pretty sure that's FG's mantra. Or has been the last 9 years.He was/is minister for housing. Under him homelessness grew to over 10,500. He only survived a motion of no confidence because of the C&S agreement.
BluePlanet wrote: » To keep the momentum going i suspect. Keep the message for Change in the news.
all about the mane wrote: » So they want another election?
Bowie wrote: » Varadkar is a nasty brat and needs to go. I think SF need go out to the public because I only heard about these intended rallies through an RTE article on Varadkar's reaction. It seems to be #notanormalparty. Coming from FG that's a compliment. The SD's want nothing to do with FF/FG. Good on them.
blanch152 wrote: » I keep hearing that Sinn Fein won the election, yet I keep reading all this bitterness about Fine Gael and Varadkar in particular from their cheerleaders. It is very strange.
Varadkar is playing a clever game, he keeps saying it is up to those who claim they won the election to form a government. When that fails through the inability of Sinn Fein to behave as a normal political party, he will step back on to the playing field in the national interest.
BluePlanet wrote: » Who won the election then blanch152? SF got most 1st preference votes, they tied for the most TD's elected and Mary Lou got most votes to be the next Taoiseach. That does rather sound like winning.
road_high wrote: » Nobody won. To “win” an election as one party these days you need 87 Seats. SF have 37. So pretty damn far away from winning indeed especially given MLM miserable efforts to form a government with like minded others. So off she goes in her little soapbox and sticks herself in front of a megaphone. Doing her usual ranting and raving
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BluePlanet wrote: » No, they just didn't win enough seats to form a government without a coalition.
blanch152 wrote: » I keep hearing that Sinn Fein won the election, yet I keep reading all this bitterness about Fine Gael and Varadkar in particular from their cheerleaders. It is very strange.Varadkar is playing a clever game, he keeps saying it is up to those who claim they won the election to form a government. When that fails through the inability of Sinn Fein to behave as a normal political party, he will step back on to the playing field in the national interest.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I think there is gonna be tears and pulling of hair soon. :D 'You didn't win, I did, I'm telling mammy!'
Suckit wrote: » Genius. :rolleyes: Varadkar has already played his 'clever' game and look where that got him. SF gained a massive surge in popularity. We already know Varadkars 'clever' game.. Hide on the sidelines, check which way the wind is blowing and then come out. Sound familiar? It should, he has done it before. This time, he keeps saying 'the onus is on them to form a government', yet when they look like they are actually doing anything about forming a government he starts screaming about bullying and intimidation.
blanch152 wrote: » Nonsense. You don't form a government by crying and wailing to the public about how you are being ignored. What you do is you actually sit down and make offers to others about forming a government, which is what Sinn Fein have failed to do. My understanding coming back from the other smaller parties is that Sinn Fein have had nothing of substance to say.
road_high wrote: » Nor did FF who actually have more seats than SF. Again SF "won" zip because MLM and co are incapable of forming a governement or indeed, governing. Instead she off back where she belongs- behind her megaphone playing the eternal victim.
