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Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

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New thread ladsðŸ˜ŠðŸ˜Š Any update on injuries for this weekends game?

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PTH2009

Apparently they were left over a good few boxes of programmes from the Cork game that they didn't bother printing as many for today's game

Cutbacks but annoying all the same

Giveitfong

Waterford 0-17 Galway 0-16

Waterford rode their luck when getting the two points at Walsh Park today. The first piece of good fortune was the absence of Joe Canning from the Galway team. If he had played, I am pretty certain the Westerners would have prevailed. As it was, they should have won the game anyway, but with the score so tight, their 13 wides to Waterford’s seven made a crucial difference.

Waterford were also fortunate that Pádraic Mannion, Galway’s right half back and one of their best players, had to go off injured halfway through the first half. Galway also sorely missed the absent David and Dáithí Burke, while on this showing they do not appear to have any new class forwards in their assembly line. At the same time, they were physically stronger than Waterford all over the field and were much better in the air in key positions.

Waterford started with three changes from the published line-out, with Billy Nolan, Austin Gleeson and Jamie Barron in for Stephen O’Keeffe, Iarlaith Daly and Jake Dillon. The Waterford line-out had an experimental look about it, with Conor Gleeson at centre-back, Pauric Mahony and Austin Gleeson at midfield and Jamie Barron at centre forward. It can be said that none of these experiments worked.

Galway play a short-passing game like Cork, and it is interesting that we have seen both of these teams and their systems off in the last three weeks, albeit with the assistance of lots of opposition wides in both cases. In the first quarter, Galway were making inroads down the centre, with Waterford missing the solid presence of Darragh Fives in the centre of the half back line. Not for the first time, Austin Gleeson was failing to make any impact in a free-ranging role, and not surprisingly, he was moved to centre back halfway through the first half where he succeeded in shoring things up to a significant extent.

It was point for point between the teams for most of the first half, but a late scoring surge by Waterford saw them go in at half-time three points ahead, 0-11 to 0-8, albeit having played with the assistance of the stiff breeze.

When Galway scored two quick points on the resumption, the home support got a little uneasy, but then Waterford took over the game for most of the third quarter, moving into a five-point lead (0-15 to 0-10) by the 50th minute. The key factors in this turnaround were the switch of Pauric Mahony and Jamie Barron to their more familiar positions of centre forward and midfield, respectively. Austin Gleeson also roared into the game, giving glimpses of how he can control a game from centre back.

While Pauric Mahony turned in a marvellous second half, in the fourth quarter both Jamie Barron (whose knee was heavily strapped up) and Austin Gleeson understandably ran out of steam. At the same time Galway raised their game considerably and took charge of affairs, led by Cathal Mannion from midfield. When they equalised in the 68th minute, it looked curtains for Waterford, but from the resultant puckout, substitute Peter Hogan got possession and landed a super score.

Galway, working the ball well in an attempt to create an opening against a tenacious Waterford defence, got one final chance to equalise but had the misfortune to hit the post (shades of Kieran Kingson’s late chance for Cork three weeks ago) with the Waterford back line working the rebounding ball to safety.

It should be noted that Waterford created several goal chances during the game but failed to put any of them away. Galway, by contrast, never once threatened the Waterford goal. This again is a good reflection on the Waterford full back line in which corner back Shane McNulty, thriving in the confidence shown in him by Liam Cahill, is having an excellent season. Galway’s full forward Conor Whelan was their most dangerous forward, hitting four points from play, but he was at his most dangerous when foraging further out the field.

While Billy Nolan had little enough to do in terms of dealing with incoming ball, some of his distribution, especially from long balls, was top-class. Calum Lyons started slowly, but put in a good second half, while Kevin Moran put in a very effective shift. While they scored some excellent points, some of them well worked, the Waterford forward line in general got little change out of the Galway rearguard. Apart from Pauric Mahony, who had a super game (especially when moved to centre forward) Waterford’s best forward was Jack Fagan, who moved up a notch or two here from previous displays.

Patrick Curran, who did some good work in the first half and opened the scoring with a marvellous point from the left sideline, was surprisingly substituted at half time which, to me, robbed Waterford of a cutting edge in the second half.

Waterford: Billy Nolan; Shane Fives, Conor Prunty, Shane McNulty; Calum Lyons, Conor Gleeson, Kevin Moran (0-1); Austin Gleeson (0-1, free), Pauric Mahony (0-09, 0-5 frees, 0-1 65), Neil Montgomery, Jamie Barron (0-1), Jack Fagan (0-2); Jack Prendergast, Stephen Bennett (0-1), Patrick Curran (0-1).

Subs: Peter Hogan (0-1) for Curran (HT); MJ Sutton for Montgomery (63); Dessie Hutchinson for Bennett (68).

Galway: James Skehill; Darren Morrissey, Gearóid McInerney, Seán Loftus (0-1); Pádraic Mannion, Shane Cooney, Fintan Burke; Cathal Mannion (0-3), Adrian Tuohy; Niall Burke, Brian Concannon (0-2), Tadhg Haran (0-3, frees); Seán Bleahane (0-1), Conor Whelan (0-4), Conor Cooney.

Subs: Seán Linnane for Pádraic Mannion (18); Jason Flynn for Bleahane (44); Conor Walsh for Conor Cooney (50); Evan Niland (0-2, frees) for Haran (56); TJ Brennan for Fintan Burke (66).

Referee: James Owens (Wexford)

mountgomery burns

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

A bit of a strange one. A win but again not really convincing. As another poster said Galway traditionally don’t fancy it in Walsh Park, and they were missing Canning aswell. We’ll take the win but the remaining games will tell us where we’re really at

We won't know where we're at until the championship. Get the team fully fit and working hard and we'll be happy coming into the Tipp game. It's good to get a couple of wins under the belt but really the league has once again defaulted to an experimental playground, complete shadow boxing for the championship.

Mastermcgrath

A bit of a strange one. A win but again not really convincing. As another poster said Galway traditionally don’t fancy it in Walsh Park, and they were missing Canning aswell. We’ll take the win but the remaining games will tell us where we’re really at

deise08

Great to come away with a buzz felt like the championship 'high' towards the end with the closeness of the score.. Great to come out of it with a win, considering Galway looked much quicker, and always came out of rucks with the ball. I thought we could've had two goals there, if there hadve been someone following in after the saved Bennett shots.

Nice to see Aussie, Jamie and Kevin starting. Silly yellow given to Jamie at the start.

Bring on Tipp next weekend!!

Dare I say anything about our friend Fergal?

PTH2009

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Could be a three way tie if Cork beat Galway and Tipp beat ourselves and Galway. If Galway beat Cork then we're guaranteed a quarter.

Hopefully Galway prove a point at home next weekend against Cork

For us hopefully 2 good performances. These 2 games are the toughest challenge we are incourting so far this year

Progressing to the next round would be good as we get an extra workout against Wexford/Kilkenny or Clare

Junior Hurler

The posts in Walsh Pk seem very low. They don’t make it easy for the umpires to adjudicate on points in hurling . Seemed like one dodgy decision in favour of Galway in 1st half. The posts must be the lowest of any inter county ground and a controversy waiting to happen when the big games come around later in the year.

[Deleted User]

Aussie still seems to be carrying a leg injury? Looked short on pace a few times which seemed to be due to something niggling at him. He didn’t lack for effort though and great to see him get on so much ball in the second half.

Calum Lyons is a superstar in the making and also good to see Moran looking sharp. I had him retired!

Forwards always our problem but Fagan played well I thought and Bennett always a threat.

mountgomery burns

PTH2009 wrote: »

We never do things easy ha

Great to get the win and more importantly getting wins up in Walsh Park

Big tests to come next with 2 away trips to Tipp and Limerick

Through the QFs at least I think as we would have the head to head over Galway/Cork who play each other next weekend and most they would get would be 6pts

Could be a three way tie if Cork beat Galway and Tipp beat ourselves and Galway. If Galway beat Cork then we're guaranteed a quarter.

killbillvol2

PF28 wrote: »

A lot of people would say the same thing about you

He might talk sh1te sometimes but at least he contributes to this forum which is more than can be said for you.

/ Goes to lie down after defending PTH2009

Waternut

Agree with Kev. Happy with the win but still concerned with our forward play. Will we put up high enough scores to compete with the likes of Tipp and Limerick

Tiger Roll

KevIRL wrote:

Got away with that one today I feel. Galway seemed to win most of the player battles especially in midfield and half back line. But for some poor Galway wides we'd have been done for. I did think Austin was good and paudie too, again full back line v strong. Some very poor distribution with w lot of ball sent straight to an unmarked galwayman. Worryingly, similar to westmeath match we weren't really winning any of the ruck type situations, and were easily pushed off the ball.

Definitely rode our luck today . Galway are such an inconsistent team . They left that one behind for sure . The next 2 games will tell a lot . Barron doesn't look right at all . When paraic plays and takes the frees , Stephen Bennett is always anonymous in games. Good to see Austin doing what he is best at

KevIRL

Got away with that one today I feel. Galway seemed to win most of the player battles especially in midfield and half back line. But for some poor Galway wides we'd have been done for. I did think Austin was good and paudie too, again full back line v strong. Some very poor distribution with w lot of ball sent straight to an unmarked galwayman. Worryingly, similar to westmeath match we weren't really winning any of the ruck type situations, and were easily pushed off the ball.

All that said, v good to get a second win in Walsh Park, needed that ahead of our games there this summer

PF28

PTH2009 wrote: »

No programmes left farcical

A lot of people would say the same thing about you

PTH2009

We never do things easy ha

Great to get the win and more importantly getting wins up in Walsh Park

Big tests to come next with 2 away trips to Tipp and Limerick

Through the QFs at least I think as we would have the head to head over Galway/Cork who play each other next weekend and most they would get would be 6pts

PTH2009

Mixed half with a few great scores

Aussie and barron a bit rusty

KevIRL

Austin Barron and Billy Nolan start.

PTH2009

No programmes left farcical

Teebor15

PTH2009 wrote: »

Hopefully a win today which more or less gives us a place in the next round. Best of luck to everyone

One thing I'm scared off is Galway have a horrendous record down here and it has to end someday

Or...

One thing in our favour is Galway have a horrendous record down here so hopefully that will continue!

PTH2009

Hopefully a win today which more or less gives us a place in the next round. Best of luck to everyone

One thing I'm scared off is Galway have a horrendous record down here and it has to end someday

Deise_2012

Are there changes expected to be made?

KevIRL

Pitch passed inspection earlier this morning and game is on

PTH2009

Great win for the footballers

https://twitter.com/WaterfordGAA/status/1231242437718401029?s=19

carter10

KevIRL wrote: »

Same team named for sunday's game

Darragh Fives not named on subs, is he injured?

KevIRL

KevIRL wrote: »

Soky
S fives
Prunty
McNulty
C Lyons
Daly
Moran
C gleeson
Mahony
Montgomery
Dillon
Fagan
J prendergast
S Bennett
Curran

Same team named for sunday's game

KevIRL

big_drive wrote: »

Is Kieran Bennett injured? Hasn’t played since Cork game, will he be back this weekend?

Hamstring injury I believe, out for a good while

DLS2THECORE

Kieran Bennett will ( I expect ) miss the rest of the league due to a hamstring injury sustained in training in the week leading up to the Westmeath game.

big_drive

Is Kieran Bennett injured? Hasn’t played since Cork game, will he be back this weekend?

debok

PTH2009 wrote: »

will never happen even if were doomed to fail in it

Theres die hard football lads on the county board and with the clubs

Kilkenny i think play in the junior All ireland championships instead of the senior. Maybe a model like that hear could work

Get a grip lads will ye. We were **** at hurling fir a long time too and still are fairly **** in terms of success.do ye only measure what team ya follow by chances of winning. Which bandwagon did ye jump on?

mountgomery burns

Few lads seriously out of touch here