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Knock/Eirtrade thread

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Inbound to knock on Friday between 1300-1400 for scrapping F-HPJB

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greenpilot

Just some proof that Af373s and it's counterpart are currently sitting in the rain waiting for their final flights. Got this two hours ago.

Tenger

Is there a flight number planned for this ferry flight?

greenpilot

Tenger wrote: »

Is there a flight number planned for this ferry flight?

Yes. AF373s

Nothing on the schedules yet. But keep an eye on FR24 or fA.

greenpilot

Last movements from NOC is at 13.25, with a busy airport up yo that time. Which would make sense for an afternoon arrival. Won't know for definite until tomorrow morning.

hopeso

greenpilot wrote: »

Last movements from NOC is at 13.25, with a busy airport up yo that time. Which would make sense for an afternoon arrival. Won't know for definite until tomorrow morning.

Not asking for a definitive answer, but in your opinion, looking at tomorrow’s forecast, is it likely to be landing on 27?

Mech1

Where on the East coast do you think it will pass over?
Not important at all just wondering.

PinOnTheRight

Mech1 wrote: »

Where on the East coast do you think it will pass over?
Not important at all just wondering.

I suspect coming from Dresden it'd route into Irish airspace via BAGSO so around Dunleer / Clogherhead area.

EchoIndiaBravo

hopeso wrote: »

greenpilot wrote: »

Last movements from NOC is at 13.25, with a busy airport up yo that time. Which would make sense for an afternoon arrival. Won't know for definite until tomorrow morning.[/QUOTE

Not asking for a definitive answer, but in your opinion, looking at tomorrow’s forecast, is it likely to be landing on 27?

RWY26 it will be yes.

greenpilot

hopeso wrote: »

greenpilot wrote: »

Last movements from NOC is at 13.25, with a busy airport up yo that time. Which would make sense for an afternoon arrival. Won't know for definite until tomorrow morning.[/QUOTE

Not asking for a definitive answer, but in your opinion, looking at tomorrow’s forecast, is it likely to be landing on 27?

After all our trepidation I think the following will be the big issue...

TAF: EIKN 191700Z 1918/2018 21018G30KT 3000 -RADZ BKN004 OVC008 TEMPO 1918/2002 0400 FG DZ BKN001 BECMG 1920/1922 21015KT BECMG 2000/2002 28012KT 9999 BKN020 TEMPO 2002/2015 -SHRAGS SCT018CB PROB30 2006/2013 1200 -SHSN BKN004 BKN016CB BECMG 2012/2014 27019G35KT

Oh dear....

TheW1zard

greenpilot wrote: »

hopeso wrote: »

After all our trepidation I think the following will be the big issue...

TAF: EIKN 191700Z 1918/2018 21018G30KT 3000 -RADZ BKN004 OVC008 TEMPO 1918/2002 0400 FG DZ BKN001 BECMG 1920/1922 21015KT BECMG 2000/2002 28012KT 9999 BKN020 TEMPO 2002/2015 -SHRAGS SCT018CB PROB30 2006/2013 1200 -SHSN BKN004 BKN016CB BECMG 2012/2014 27019G35KT

Oh dear....

Ahhhhhhhhhhggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Peatys

TheW1zard wrote: »

greenpilot wrote: »

Ahhhhhhhhhhggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

What's the problem?

TheW1zard

Peatys wrote: »

TheW1zard wrote: »

What's the problem?

TAF: EIKN 191700Z 1918/2018 21018G30KT 3000 -RADZ BKN004 OVC008 TEMPO 1918/2002 0400 FG DZ BKN001 BECMG 1920/1922 21015KT BECMG 2000/2002 28012KT 9999 BKN020 TEMPO 2002/2015 -SHRAGS SCT018CB PROB30 2006/2013 1200 -SHSN BKN004 BKN016CB BECMG 2012/2014 27019G35KT

Peatys

TheW1zard wrote: »

Peatys wrote: »

TAF: EIKN 191700Z 1918/2018 21018G30KT 3000 -RADZ BKN004 OVC008 TEMPO 1918/2002 0400 FG DZ BKN001 BECMG 1920/1922 21015KT BECMG 2000/2002 28012KT 9999 BKN020 TEMPO 2002/2015 -SHRAGS SCT018CB PROB30 2006/2013 1200 -SHSN BKN004 BKN016CB BECMG 2012/2014 27019G35KT

I saw that. What does it mean?

Delta1Rescue

Peatys wrote: »

TheW1zard wrote: »

What's the problem?

It’s a Forecast... but don’t understand it, could someone explain?

TheW1zard

Delta1Rescue wrote: »

Peatys wrote: »

It’s a Forecast... but don’t understand it, could someone explain?

If im reading it right tempo AND shrag are out of date,complete disaster

de biz

The skies will clear when she lands at 1550....

Manuel

Maybe it'll be like this ...

https://www.pinterest.ie/pin/27373510223315096/

greenpilot

TheW1zard wrote: »

Peatys wrote: »

TAF: EIKN 191700Z 1918/2018 21018G30KT 3000 -RADZ BKN004 OVC008 TEMPO 1918/2002 0400 FG DZ BKN001 BECMG 1920/1922 21015KT BECMG 2000/2002 28012KT 9999 BKN020 TEMPO 2002/2015 -SHRAGS SCT018CB PROB30 2006/2013 1200 -SHSN BKN004 BKN016CB BECMG 2012/2014 27019G35KT

I'm sorry, I should have explained...here's the Science bit!,,,
TAF means Terminal Area Forcast.
The next word EIKN, is Knock Airport
191700z means 19=day of the month, 1700z is the time
The rest is basically cloud height, wind direction etc.
The issue is particularly the last string...27019g35kt.
If there is a 35kt gusting wind, I don't think we will have a visitor.

However, this is the West, and although it was stormy all night, it is Calm, and I can see the lights of Knock across the fields. Fingers crossed. I'm off up to the Airport for a gander...:)

faoiarvok

greenpilot wrote: »

However, this is the West, and although it was stormy all night, it is Calm, and I can see the lights of Knock across the fields. Fingers crossed. I'm off up to the Airport for a gander...:)

This morning’s TAF:

TAF EIKN 200500Z 2006/2106 27010KT 9999 BKN020
TEMPO 2007/2017 4000 -SHRAGSSN BKN010 SCT018CB
PROB30 2007/2013 1200 -SHSN BKN005
BECMG 2009/2011 26017G29KT
BECMG 2012/2014 27022G39KT
BECMG 2017/2019 25018G28KT
BECMG 2022/2024 22018G28KT BKN012
BECMG 2100/2102 4000 -RA BKN008
BECMG 2102/2104 22023G38KT
TEMPO 2102/2106 2000 RA BKN004

Though it’s gusty, it’s close enough to straight down the runway. I’d be more concerned about the forecast of snow, hail and low cloud.

Currently, it’s a 30° crosswind, but cloud and vis look grand:

EIKN 200700Z 29018G29KT 9999 -RA SCT012 BKN024 BKN080 02/01 Q1000 NOSIG

Cloudio9

Here’s the latest de coded version

METAR:
Wind: 290° (WNW) at 18 knots, gusting to 29 knots
Visibility: 10 km or more
Weather: light rain
Clouds: scattered clouds at 1200 ft , broken clouds at 2400 ft , broken clouds at 8000 ft
Temperature: 2°C
Dewpoint: 1°C, Relative humidity: 93%
Pressure: 1000 hPa
Trend: no significant changes within the next 2 hours

TAF:
Forecast from 06:00 (20.) to 06:00 (21.):
270° (W) at 10 knots
10 km or more
broken clouds at 2000 ft
Temporary 07:00 (20.) to 17:00 (20.):
4000 m
broken clouds at 1000 ft
scattered clouds at 1800 ft (cumulonimbus)
Probability 30% from 07:00 (20.) to 13:00 (20.):
1200 m
light showery snow
broken clouds at 500 ft
Becoming 09:00 (20.) to 11:00 (20.):
260° (W) at 17 knots
gusting to 29 knots
Becoming 12:00 (20.) to 14:00 (20.):
270° (W) at 22 knots
gusting to 39 knots
Becoming 17:00 (20.) to 19:00 (20.):
250° (WSW) at 18 knots
gusting to 28 knots
Becoming 22:00 (20.) to 00:00 (21.):
220° (SW) at 18 knots
gusting to 28 knots
broken clouds at 1200 ft
Becoming 00:00 (21.) to 02:00 (21.):
4000 m
light rain
broken clouds at 800 ft
Becoming 02:00 (21.) to 04:00 (21.):
220° (SW) at 23 knots
gusting to 38 knots
Temporary 02:00 (21.) to 06:00 (21.):
2000 m
rain
broken clouds at 400 ft

All times local
Variation: 6.20°W
Timezone: UTC+0:00
Summertime (DST): 29/03/2020 - 25/10/2020

greenpilot

faoiarvok wrote: »

This morning’s TAF:

Though it’s gusty, it’s close enough to straight down the runway. I’d be more concerned about the forecast of snow, hail and low cloud.

Currently, it’s a 30° crosswind, but cloud and vis look grand:

That's true indeed. I'm going to to the runway now. I'm just about to call into a guy who I know works as a fireman at NOC. He may have more Info.. I'll keep an eye on all my source's and keep you all posted.

greenpilot

Please see attached pic as proof-of-source.

Departing DRS at 2.30pm. Expected NOC 16.30ish

rolion

greenpilot wrote: »

Please see attached pic as proof-of-source.

Departing DRS at 2.30pm. Expected NOC 16.30ish

Thank You,really appreciated.

AndyBoBandy

I’m looking forward to seeing some pictures of this.

[Deleted User]

1555 local arrival time. Be aware times will vary wildly as to its actual arrival time. While planned to arrive at 1555 it could be hours late depending on a multitude of problems getting started out of Dresden.

Van.Bosch

[Deleted User] wrote: »

1555 local arrival time. Be aware times will vary wildly as to its actual arrival time. While planned to arrive at 1555 it could be hours late depending on a multitude of problems getting started out of Dresden.

I’d say there is people parked at NOC already.

Andrew33

Do companies tender for the dismantling/scrapping or do they “buy” the aircraft in the hope they’ll turn a profit on it?

greenpilot

Deleted User wrote: »

1555 local arrival time. Be aware times will vary wildly as to its actual arrival time. While planned to arrive at 1555 it could be hours late depending on a multitude of problems getting started out of Dresden.

True. Just got word they are doing an engine test run up this morning first. They have taken the covers off the engines and there is activity around the aircraft.

basill

Some of you aspiring pilots might want to check your crosswind calculations. Hint R26 has a bearing of 264 degrees.

Tenger

Andrew33 wrote: »

Do companies tender for the dismantling/scrapping or do they “buy” the aircraft in the hope they’ll turn a profit on it?

Yup.
The dismantle the airframe and sell on reusable items to other aviation suppliers. Anything left is scrap metal. (getting "converted to coke cans" is the euphemism)
Any airline buying a 2nd hand part will know the full history of that part.