aloyisious wrote: » when the choice is solely Trump V Bernie or Mike, which way do you see the Dem supporter voting?
serfboard wrote: » If the DNC stitches up the process in favour of Bloomberg, a former Republican, in other to keep Sanders out, what I can see Democrat voters doing is what they did the last time - staying at home.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » Haven't they already changed the rules to accommodate him?
Penn wrote: » ... Harrison Ford... ??? Is this really where we are now? Has Trump sunk the bar so low that even with the likes of Sanders and Warren running, we're at "Oh if only Harrison Ford put himself forward for it the Dems might be in with a shot..." Don't get me wrong, I agree that it's looking like none of them might beat Trump. But where the hell are you pulling Harrison Ford from? If Trump has taught us anything (and it's a complete accident on his part if he has), it's that we need politicians in the highest political positions, not celebrities. At least even Ronald Reagan was a governor for a few years.
aloyisious wrote: » Do you really think the average Dem supporter will throw the election and give Don another 4 years?
BorneTobyWilde wrote: » Harrison Ford is a passionate Democrat, he speaks at a lot of Climate Change events, and does a lot of campaigning on various issues.He more qualified than Trump ever was.https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NCWvtjah8SQ/maxresdefault.jpg
aloyisious wrote: » Do you really think the average Dem supporter will throw the election and give Don another 4 years? One of the things about Mike is that before he switched to the republican party, he was a Democrat so he's returned to the fold, as it were. I readily admit the fact that he and Don are very rich New Yorkers, with all that carries, cant be ignored.
pixelburp wrote: » Given how tight many of the electoral results were in 2016, the Democrat vote would only need to be depressed by a similar amount to ensure another Trump victory. The GOP vote itself might lessen by dint of apathy or presumption of victory, but the last election was a stark lesson in what happens if the Establishment pushes against a more popular(ist) candidate. You'd have thought the DNC had learned this lesson yet here we are - although I'm still not convinced the threat of Bloomberg is anything other than a media fantasy. His polling has crept up IIRC but until he starts clocking up some delegates is merely a phantom IMO
SeamusFX wrote: » Trump has just pardoned former Illinois governor Rob Blagojevich, a Democrat who tried to sell Obama’s Senate seat. Former NYPD commissioner Bernard Kerik. Junk bond trader Michael Milken. Former 49’s owner Edward J. DiBartolo, who was in for sexual assault and corruption. Far from draining the swap, especially since Blagojevich is a Democrat and someone everyone agrees is a crook, but he was on Celebrity Apprentice. Kerik is buddies with Trump’s bagman Rudy Guiliani. The other common denominator is, they’re all rich and this is just a warmup for his pardon of Roger Stone!
eire4 wrote: » Technically these pardons are not illegal. But the way that the pardon power of the president is currently being used is so morally corrupt that it begs looking at in terms of finding some mechanism to limit the presidents power in this regard.
RIGOLO wrote: » Your points are just opinion that have no bearing in the reality of what has actually happened under the Trump administration as born out by the facts and the numbers. Women have made up over 70% of new jobs in America. Women have recovered 70% of the decline in their participation rate from 2000 to 2015. If you ask me thats doing ALOT for Women Launching Space Force, return to the Moon, Made In America program , The 2017 Trump Executive order for improved Apprenticeship program, clampdown on China IP theft, rejection of non-US 5G technology, driving US companies to have US based/friendly supply chains ... just some of the many measures made to advance US technology Debt is spiraling cos Obama spent 9Trillion getting 2% GDP, Trump has spent 1trillion getting over 3%. As soon as the non-discretionary spending controls they want kick in in the second term, things will balance a bit better. And now that the Fed is playing ball also. Improved Tax credits for working people with children, increasing their allowance, and more importantly making it a refundable tax credit. Tensions with China , have resulted in a more balanced US-China Trade Deficit it fell by over 50billion in 2019 and thats even with Boeings woes. Tensions with Canada, not a problem, the USMCA Trade deal announced and signed He undid crippling regulations - thats why buisness is booming . New Regulations were growing by some measures at 8% a year. Trumps EO that for every one new regulation, 3 had to be removed was instrumental in this. Support for minority communities, well jobs are exploding in that demographic , you can goggle The Young Black Leadership Summit at White House, they seem happy. The IEA announced that CO2 emmissions for the US were down in 2019 . Thats the international energy Agency The United States saw the largest decline in energy-related CO2 emissions in 2019 on a country basis – a fall of 140 Mt, or 2.9%, to 4.8 Gt. US emissions are now down almost 1 Gt from their peak in the year 2000, the largest absolute decline by any country over that period. north Korea - They had 4 nuclear tests during OBAMAs reign and we had no summits, going from 5 to 25 kiloton. Under Trump they had one , but have had 3-4 summits. Thats progress. The list goes on and on .. What Trump has done is a long term legacy that the Democrats and the left can never take away from him and his administration. The histroy has already been written on it, its too late. Its over Trump won round 1, lets see if the Dems can take Round 2 with Bernie Sanders .
briany wrote: » Trump to Bloomberg would be a bit like a guy who doesn't like his job and complains about it, gets the sack, doesn't have any money, panics and goes begging back to his old job and is rehired at a lower rate of pay. It's not really a positive change, but a somewhat less sh*tty one, and not so much a cause for celebration as a reason to be less sad. It would really be just a clever way for the masters behind the whole American political scene to the American public content with the status quo that they previously complained about.
everlast75 wrote: » Trunp pardoning two white collar criminals. Weird flex for someone who hates corruption...
everlast75 wrote: » The best thing Trump can do between now and November is keep a low profile and avoid scandal.
briany wrote: » Trump might court more scandal. He could use this to fuel his and his supporters' persecution complex and thus energise the base.
Stallingrad wrote: » I lol'd at that! He couldn't do that between today and Friday!
everlast75 wrote: » That's my point. It's getting worse and he can't help himself. The fact is each scandal is making it harder for Reps to defend him when there is a direct knock on effect on their reelection. Making the assumption he is invulnerable is like saying that there is never a straw that breaks the camel's back.
aloyisious wrote: » Wow, that's outside even the cynical view I have of politics. So Don might just yet get back in due to players outside and beyond his sphere, with a little bit of help from one of those players acting as a prospective nominee for the opposition and turning off voters from the party he allegedly represents. It'd make Don a patsy into the bargain, something that'd hit his ego hard if he knew, way beyond what he'd feel losing office to the actor.
everlast75 wrote: » So as far as I'm concerned, the Dems shouldn't give one damn about his base. They should concentrate on mobilising the 30% of the population that fall into neither "base" category and that means talking about medicare, infrastructure, education etc.
