Cupatae wrote: » I actually feel bad for genuine people on welfare, getting drilled and labelled constantly as scum leaches, bottom feeders looking for a free ride ect, imagine the depression of going into a post office and knowing everyone that sees you thinks your a low life leach. As a society now we are ridiculously judgmental, its no wonder suicides are a constant thing now a days. People are ruthless especially those with any bit of success (especially those that had a soft life and had there **hard earned** success handed too them, cars paid, college paid, 0 struggle except complain about the hard work of college) and these types of people then think themselves as working class, as if they ve earned and clawed there way to the top, when in reality compared to the rest of the world they literally had a free ride or as close as you could get to one.
anewme wrote: » Yuppie should be consigned to the 80's, where it came from.
Rodin wrote: » Suicide rates are going down.
Cupatae wrote: » really? doesn't seem that long ago it was an "epidemic" in this country.. flavour of the month and all that i guess!
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » If you think there is no working class you must have been really surprised at Sf's surge then.
Rodin wrote: » I'm not sure if you're talking to me but Ireland has a huge working class. It also has a huge non-working class and an underclass.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » According to the figures it doesn't have a huge non working class. It has a huge homeless underclass though. Unemployment is 4.8%. Spain has 13% unemployment. Greece has 18% unemployment. Italy has 9 % France has an unemployment rate of 8.8 % We are not far off Germany who are at 3.1%
anewme wrote: » But many more have than not have and should be respected.
maninasia wrote: » They retire young though and get great benefits, and those benefits aren't dependent on ever being a taxpayer either. Future pensioners will start at 70 something and less benefits.
anewme wrote: » I'm due out at 68 and am not happy with that. I dont think the benefits are great.
Rodin wrote: » What do you think you should get?
Rodin wrote: » Ireland has one of the highest rates of receipt of disability benefit in the EU. These are non-working. Many are genuine cases. Many are fleecing the system. Why should Ireland have such a high rate? Not like we have war wounded.
Natasha Harsh Royalty wrote: » Ireland maintains social security agreements with other countries to cover this kind of situation. If an emigrant has worked and paid social insurance in England but retires in Ireland, he can use his contributions to qualify for retirement benefits in Ireland. The same would apply to the reverse scenario.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » What in your mind are high wages? Wages in Ireland are low precisely because the cost of everything is high. :rolleyes: We have a low wage economy.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » you think a state pension is 'great benefits'????
maninasia wrote: » It's not only that though is it. Free travel, medical cards, subsidised phone, fuel, numerous other benefits and discounts. Subsidised or free accommodation for those with no home. Many pensioners are well off ,paid off their mortgsges and even get private pensions too. You should see what pensioners get across the water or in 95% plus of countries worldwide. Those people would be green with envy at the deal in Ireland.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » weeeeeeeeeeeeeee..i cant wait!
maninasia wrote: » It's not only that though is it. Free travel, medical cards, subsidised phone, fuel, tv, numerous other benefits and discounts. Subsidised or free accommodation for those with no home. Many pensioners are well off ,paid off their mortgsges and even get private pensions too. Relatively young retirement age at 65 years old. You should see what pensioners get across the water or in 95% plus of countries worldwide. Those people would be green with envy at the deal in Ireland.
maninasia wrote: » Stop moaning then.
firestarter g wrote: » From what I've seen from the people who post here theyre mainly yuppies, mamas boys who have no real clue what it is to live in the real world. I mean who the **** are the main "characters" on here? The mysterious wibbs? Candie the rich English girl?? Well you know wha I'm not listening to the patronizing **** any longer. I'm an Irish working class beeeee-atch and good luck to any **** that messes with me on here 😊
anewme wrote: » They get a private pension only if they've paid into it. Is fuel allowance for example not means tested? How many other "benefits" are means tested.?
maninasia wrote: » The pension and the free travel aren't means tested I believe. For the others...Not sure.
anewme wrote: » The pension is " contributory" so based on contributions. I think the fuel is means tested, so many wont qualify, not sure of the rest.
Rodin wrote: » Except when it's 'non-contributory' .
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