Atlantic Dawn wrote: » I see friend of the show so to speak Pat Hickey doesn't need to pay back the €410k bail money that Association of National Olympic Committees gave him as a 'loan', I suppose ticket touting wasn't a croime in Brazil...https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/olympic-body-writes-off-pat-hickey-s-400k-rio-bail-money-1.4174116
generalgerry wrote: » The thing that I have found really funny in the last week, since the election, is that anybody who has been pro-shinner has come on and talked about how "de media" were agin them. And Joe doesn't seem to have spotted for a second that most of them were talking about him. I have no time for the Shinners either, but Duffy should never be hosting any show that is meant to be discussing elections, or anything to do with the Sinn Fein party as he is sooooooooo openly biased against them. And this of course permits them to portray themselves as the martyrs and get more votes. I hope that Duffy has found the week humbling though. He certainly didn't like the talk of them raising the oul taxes on those over 100K. Jesus can you imagine if they took 90% off those earning over 200K, he would have to send back the Rolls.
ShylockWept wrote: » I don't think that is quite fair. Joe has been very balanced in all such matters. In fact he conducted or commissioned his own research which correctly predicted the outcome.
Deleted User wrote: » Tell us, what was in the envelope? I missed that part.
ShylockWept wrote: » The envelope showed that Sinn Fein was the most popular party, as was borne out in de general election.
Brian Scan wrote: » Do you think the big guy buys his groceries with money that has been subject to tax only at 12.5%?
dvcireland wrote: » SF PRO "walking the talk" on the current Liveline promo.
It’s Monday, election day plus two, and already on air discussions about coalition permutations are turning ugly. A Sinn Féin voter deems a partnership with Fianna Fáil as “very iffy”, rejecting outright any pairing with Fine Gael. This isn’t a problem for the Fine Gael supporter, who claims Sinn Féin has “blood on its hands”. Just half an hour into the conversation, the parties are hurling abuse at each other. Even by its own shouty standards, the first post-election edition of Liveline (RTÉ Radio 1, weekdays) is a bad-tempered affair. Anyone hoping that the end of the election campaign means no more on-air political arguments has reckoned without Joe Duffy’s phone-in show. The people may have spoken, but they haven’t talked to Joe yet. And after an election in which the tectonic plates of Irish politics lurched dramatically, there’s plenty to talk about. From the moment the lines are open, the calls pile in and the callers pile into each other. And so it continues, with the same hypnotic cruelty of a cat toying with a wounded mouse On one level, the show provides a snapshot of why the country voted the way it did. Callers tell how they voted for Sinn Féin out of disillusionment with the political establishment: former Fianna Fáil voter Paul sums up the mood when he says he’s “fed up with the top two parties”. But what transforms the episode from rather obvious overview to cacophonous classic is the intervention of Fine Gael supporter Marian, whose well-spoken accent belies the ferocity of her partisanship. While Marian’s factual arguments in favour of her “hero” Taoiseach Leo Varadkar are standard economic ones, it’s her formidable debating arsenal that really sets the show alight. She imperiously orders other callers to let her speak while dismissing them in patronisingly polite terms: “My dear, do you think houses are going to be shooting up like mushrooms?” Marian also harks back to Sinn Féin’s past association with republican violence, from her “blood on their hands” remark to asking: “What did Sinn Féin ever do, except rob a few banks?” This last line is too much even for Duffy, who chastises her in that anguished tone he reserves for callers who he knows are delivering radio gold. Marian occasionally apologises for “going too far”, but when another listener, Nicola, accuses Fine Gael of having blood on its own hands for its stewardship of the health system, Marian resumes her genteel Rottweiler approach, to the point that a plea goes up: “Joe, can you get her to calm down?” Duffy half-heartedly breaks up the clinch: like any good referee in a sparring match, he also knows that his audience likes nothing better than a good scrap. Even so, one hopes that when actual coalition negotiations begin, it’s a more civilised affair than Duffy’s debate. Throughout all this, Duffy plays up his show’s role as an election bellwether. He reveals the results from a pre-election audience survey conducted at an outside broadcast some weeks previously, informing listeners that he’s opening the envelope with a theatrical flourish that would be excessive at the Academy Awards ceremony. He launches impromptu telephone polls on potential coalition combinations, while ostentatiously announcing that the voting can’t be manipulated by repeat calls, presumably to deter Vladimir Putin from interfering. As an afterthought, he adds that this poll is just an “indication”. Among the entertaining arguments and colourful opinions, it’s a reminder that Liveline may give voice to people, but it’s not the voice of the people. Coverage When it comes to the actual election, it’s Duffy’s station colleagues who deliver the real goods. For once, Ryan Tubridy isn’t indulging in the usual RTÉ logrolling when he praises the network’s news and current affairs department for its election coverage as he opens his RTÉ Radio 1 show on Tuesday morning.
mountain wrote: » Welcome back
zell12 wrote: » IrishTimes - Joe Duffy is in his element as Liveline callers pile into each other :rolleyes::rolleyes:
ShylockWept wrote: » Good to be back :pac: But I must be careful I am on probation :eek:
ButtersSuki wrote: » The absolute key line in that piece:it’s a reminder that Liveline may give voice to people, but it’s not the voice of the people.
ShylockWept wrote: » That is open to interpretation. I believe that the key sentence is: the show provides a snapshot of why the country voted the way it did...Throughout all this, Duffy plays up his show’s role as an election bellwether" Joe is the Godfather of Irish Radio...
ButtersSuki wrote: » It’s a definitive statement, and it’s clearly a dig. It’s not open to any other form of interpretation unless you’re biased towards the host, which given your history, is clearly the case.
ShylockWept wrote: » Joe is the Godfather of Irish Radio...
Odyssey 2005 wrote: » He'll wake up with a horse's head on his pillow .
neris wrote: » https://twitter.com/TrumanKelly/status/1228797984286089216?s=19
BPKS wrote: » I am convinced that Mick Heaney fella who writes the radio piece for the Times does be on the Liveline thread.
ShylockWept wrote: » I'll be happy to write a counter piece on the Joe Duffy Show if he is reading. It will be entitled Joe and is Amazing Omnipotent Show
Atlantic Dawn wrote: » I pray for another election to properly put the cat amongst the pigeons.
Jeff2 wrote: » So a referendum on whether we have another election as Joe would have it.
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