Baby75 wrote: » Well done tempos are hard, throw in a storm and a headwind it is torture, but you know what you won the mental game you kept going and I agree with everyone else at times like that I use effort if I feel like it is tempo I am not going to worry too much on pace. I do use Heart rate as well so once that is in the right zone I am happy. I dread my tempo runs as well. Also to answer your question, yes it does get easier and yes you will get faster it might happen next week or in a week or two times but one day you will come in and look at your run and be delighted with the results so do share with us I remember thinking the same as you and then out of nowhere it clicked and got a little easier and I got a little quicker so hang in there all this hard work will pay off and you have a great strength that will stand to you as will that tempo session :D
Mr. Guappa wrote: » Your determination is amazing as always! I get the frustration over the session - I'd a similar experience trying to hit LT paces on sessions over the past month or two. After a miserable failure (compared to target paces) on a wet 'n' wild day I realised, thanks to sage advice here, that I should be largely ignoring paces on days of extreme weather, and indeed if I'm running on steady inclines. Effort is key, and hard to get right. Those workouts are supposed to be tough, but not so tough that you're completely banjaxed.
AuldManKing wrote: » Tempos are very tough, my Strava is littered with failed tempo sessions - theres an old log I used to have here that has 4 pages of debate about a failed tempo on the Acres one day. No word of a lie. In the lead up to Rotterdam - I did not finish too many tempo sessions in the way they were meant to be - but I amended them on the fly. So its no mean feat to do them. That park you done them is directly across from my house and I sympathise with you - its a horror into the wind - fair play for getting it done there as its a 0.5m boring loop.
Swashbuckler wrote: » That's some week! Don't underestimate over 7hrs on your feet. That more than I can manage most weeks. Well done. Most people (apart from AMK and Healy coz they're different animals) find tempo running tough (I'm assuming tempo means threshold for you. I can't recall.) in fairness it's two and a half miles not a million miles away from 10k pace. That's not easy. That being said, threshold/tempo is an effort. On a windy day with rain pelting down it probably means you need to scale back the pace. Don't think you won't get the physiological benefits if you dont hit the paces. You will. If you're completely blasted after it and can barely breath you're going well beyond tempo and probably into 5k effort range. Who wouldn't dread 2.5 miles of 5k effort! I would. Well done. You're determined that's for sure!
The Black Oil wrote: » I found this video earlier today. Found it good re struggling with thoughts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNQUlcmr6U
Dealerz2.0 wrote: » You do belong here L- we all do!!! I’m no expert and there are loads on here that know more about running than me....BUT!!! Tempo runs are tough for everyone, by the looks of it above, you are running 2 mins faster than your easy pace...every runner will feel that in their legs no matter who they are. Fighting a wind and storm won’t help either. How’s your work shift hours impacting this plan, are they impacting your energy levels? And you are still coming back from a tough few months of very little running cause of injury too. Is your coach happy with the plan/progress so far? Stick with it L
Dealerz2.0 wrote: » Good sold week L, and considering you weren’t feeling too good too, well done. Sometimes a rest day (Sunday) will do you the power of good and will help recovery.
Younganne wrote: » Here's another one who knows exactly how you feel, Your 10m on Sunday was 2 mins outside your PB, that's not bad and you will be back there sooner than you think. I'm way off that level. My 5k Pb is 22.45 from 2017 and I'm currently @ 25.59(Dec 2019), but the way I have to look at it is that's an improvement on the 27.00 I ran earlier in the year May 2019. My marathon PB is 3.49 and yet I was delighted with 4.21 in Dec 2019. Its all relative. When injury occurs the hardest part is accepting the level we are at now on our return and not dwelling on where we use to be. Its been soul destroying for me watching all my hard work over the years being undone by injury, but when we run, injury is always a possibility. I had a disc issue in 2018 and just when I was getting back to running I got Plantar Fasciitis, This took almost 12 month to rectify and I am slowing building back up. I don't know if I'll ever get back to the fitness level I had in 2016/2017, which had my best running to date, but I will try and I will enjoy my running along the way and enjoy each little step of progress as it happens. You enjoy your plan and watch the fitness return and your PBs will come back to you. And yes you are a hero to your children and setting them a fantastic example.
Baby75 wrote: » You know, that is probably the best post I have read in a long time, maybe because I am and have been exactly where you are now, I can relate so much to everything you described. I have a coach and my hubby uses him as well even though we are aiming for the same race our plans while they follow the same principle of 80/20 training they are vastly different mine gets me to my target in good shape with no risk of injury but no chance of a PB so far. It is so hard at times, people who were slower are miles ahead of me now I do not mind that but it would be nice to see the same progression. you have given me hope though because if your coach did eventually get back well then so will I and so will you. but well done on running in Trim, as you said your self it is good practice and good mental preparation There really is something about having your little ones run and look up at you with pride so cute
Huzzah! wrote: » Well done on listening to your body and having the plan adjusted to suit. There's no point in overdoing it; you'd have just set yourself back. I don't think anyone who follows your running would consider you to be a wuss! Sorry you weren't happy with yesterday's result but well done on finishing the race out. I'm way off my PBs too at the moment and it's very frustrating but I just forgot about PBs the last time I raced and gave it my all and was on such a buzz after it. No doubt with your work ethic, the times will be soon back to where they were.
Applegirl26 wrote: » Oh my gosh, I am such a bad logger Ok, I'm not gonna describe every detail of the past 4 weeks. I think Strava has documented how my training is going, better than I can say here. I do want to catch up though. Tomorrow is the start of week 5. That's halfway. I am enjoying the training. It's like no other training I've ever done before. I'd be lieing if I said I don't long for the days where I was constantly told to slow down! This training is something else. I already had my plan adjusted, after I found the first week so tough. I wasn't being a wuss, I promise! I was just so far out of my comfort zone that even a rookie like me knew at that early stage, "this ain't good". It wasn't the mileage but the intensity that had me panicked. My MCM buddies were telling me if it doesn't challenge you, it won't change you. But I can't be running myself into the ground either. So I had a chat with the training team and they adjusted my plan for me. They told me not to feel bad about it but I did. I enjoyed the next few weeks of the plan as I received more instruction. When doing a workout, run on a track or find a small park and run loops. Run the workout you're given. Don't change the intensity or add a bit on cos I'm not home yet. If I do that all of a sudden I'm running a different workout than the one I set out to do. This is obvious to you guys I know. Me? I needed to be told this.:o Start slow,it's ok to start outside my scheduled pace range and run progressively. Probably the most important thing I've been told is to not underestimate the effect my injury from last year has had. I am not back running as well as I was before I hurt my leg. I guess it will just take time. I ran Trim yesterday and I knew deep down that a PB was unlikely. Towards the end of the race I had a horrible thought of just not finishing. I don't know what came over me. I scolded myself as I ran telling myself that not every race will be a good one but you will always learn something from it. Anyways I did finish the race , almost 2 minutes out from my PB last year. Two minutes!!! Still my second fastest 10 mile race though. I had been on the look out for F and finally saw him when I went to get my bag. He was after smashing his PB and I was just delighted for him.:D On the drive back home I started to think again about my race result and how from the way things are going, I probably won't get a PB in New York. It's like my progress is going backwards. I was surprised how upset that made me and I had a little cry in the car as I drove. When I got home I still had my one mile warm down to do as I had parked at lidl during the race out of desperation as I went back to get the car as soon as I could so I wouldn't get clamped. My two youngest sons came and ran around the green with me. There's something very soothing about holding a little five year olds hand in yours, and when he brought my hand to his mouth to kiss it, well, all was right with the world again! I chatted with the training team and told them how the race went. One coach was super encouraging to me. She said that a few years ago she got injured and it was two years before she was back at the same level. In those two years she didn't race once because she knew she wouldn't get a PB and that would have upset her. She said I was very strong to race when I knew I wasn't where I should be. So week 5 this week. Halfway through the plan. This week and the next two weeks look "challenging" but hey I'll get through it. Sorry for the moan....:o Later!
ariana` wrote: » Firstly well done on finishing out a race when the temptation was there not to and when it wasn't going to be a pb which is always a little bit depressing :rolleyes: Secondly well doing on doing that warm down mile - most, well i suppose i should only speak for myself, I would have just put the kettle on instead after a tough race :pac: And thirdly how sweet! I can totally identify with how soothing a little boys hand in yours can be, you are your boys' hero and don't forget it, whether you pb in NY or not, look at wonderful example you are setting for those boys of yours - just fab, well done on all counts
When I got home I still had my one mile warm down to do as I had parked at lidl during the race out of desperation as I went back to get the car as soon as I could so I wouldn't get clamped. My two youngest sons came and ran around the green with me. There's something very soothing about holding a little five year olds hand in yours, and when he brought my hand to his mouth to kiss it, well, all was right with the world again!
Younganne wrote: » Best of luck with the plan L. Exciting time starting a new plan. Is Berlin gone from the plan for this year or still on?
