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French teen who criticised Islam to move schools

DelaneyIn

A French teenager who criticised Islam on Instagram has moved to a new school after receiving death threats.

Education minister Gabriel Attal told broadcaster LCI on Monday that they had found a new school for Mila "to allow her to continue her life".

Mila, 16, sparked a national row over free speech when she called Islam a "religion of hate".

The teen's criticisms prompted fury but also drew support in France, where there are no laws against blasphemy.

Her comments about Islam came after she received homophobic abuse from a Muslim commenter. Supporters started the hashtag #JeSuisMila (I am Mila), while critics responded with #JeNeSuisPasMila.

She did not return to school after making the remarks. But on Monday Mr Attal said they had found her a "solution" and would be moving to another school which is not been made public to protect her safety.

France has a strictly secular constitution, but also a large Muslim population. There have been frequent clashes over policy in recent years, such as a government ban on full-face veils in public.

In October, French President Emmanuel Macron warned against "stigmatising" Muslims or linking Islam with the fight against terrorism.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51446519

Imagine if you received death threats and had to move schools because you criticised Santa Clause. As an atheist this is how ridiculous and infuriating I find stories like these. I hope the girl is going to be alright.

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One eyed Jack

DelaneyIn wrote: »

Imagine if you received death threats and had to move schools because you criticised Santa Clause. As an atheist this is how ridiculous and infuriating I find stories like these. I hope the girl is going to be alright.

I don’t see what you being atheist has to do with anything?

The whole thing is ridiculous though and has been completely blown out of proportion.

AllForIt

Don't be nasty and associate Muslims with Islamic beliefs. That's just plain racism.

machaseh

AllForIt wrote: »

Don't be nasty and associate Muslims with Islamic beliefs. That's just plain racism.

are you kidding me?

is_that_so

Someone uses social media to criticise something and didn't expect consequences? The death threats are abhorrent but we seem to have been here before on people's so-called rights to say whatever they want.

Bikerman2019

AllForIt wrote: »

Don't be nasty and associate Muslims with Islamic beliefs. That's just plain racism.

If you don't associate Muslims with Islam, what do you associate them with?

Your Face

According to an article she was asked out by a Muslim and when she refused him he called her a racist and made derogatory remarks about her sexuality.
She responded angrily on twitter and got a mixed response.

So it's down to the individual who to see as the victim here.

WrenBoy

Your Face wrote: »

According to an article she was asked out by a Muslim and when she refused him he called her a racist and made derogatory remarks about her sexuality.
She responded angrily on twitter and got a mixed response.

So it's down to the individual who to see as the victim here.

If you (not specifically you YF) think anyone other than the girl is the victim here, you're a dog.
If you believe she is in the wrong you are agreeing with threatening and abusing someone because they don't believe in the same religion as you. Disgusting, and that applies to all religions as far as Im concerned.

_Brian

There repercussions for every act you do in life, it’s a great lesson learned.

Rufeo

This is what happens when you have Twitter and the likes.

Man, like anyone with sense wouldn't be on Twitter.

Blaze420

_Brian wrote: »

There repercussions for every act you do in life, it’s a great lesson learned.

What lesson did she learn from this? You can’t say bad things about unicorn riding pedophiles from a couple of thousand years ago or the cretins who believe in him will be very very angry with you? I think if any lesson is learned from this, it’s yet another lesson of “Islam is not compatible with modern society”.

nthclare

Blaze420 wrote: »

What lesson did she learn from this? You can’t say bad things about unicorn riding pedophiles from a couple of thousand years ago or the cretins who believe in him will be very very angry with you? I think if any lesson is learned from this, it’s yet another lesson of “Islam is not compatible with modern society”.

Try saying that to the bleeding heart liberals and they'd put it in their best interest to get you sacked from your job, ostracised and purged.

But I think these purple and pink haired blobs are disappearing lately, there's probably a few lurking around boards still, but they're not as prolific here as before.

Although I myself believe that the abrahamic god is a made up sand demon from the middle East who's, low in self esteem and has nothing to do with creation and moral teachings...

nthclare

AllForIt wrote: »

Don't be nasty and associate Muslims with Islamic beliefs. That's just plain racism.

So I see you've a degree in theological studies and have a masters in sociology.

They're both the same, Islam and Muslims are one.

I've friends who are Muslims and Christians but we just don't talk about religion because our beliefs don't define our friendship.

Being a Pagan I dislike dialogue about religion I just get on with it.

[Deleted User]

nthclare wrote: »

So I see you've a degree in theological studies and have a masters in sociology.

They're both the same, Islam and Muslims are one.

I've friends who are Muslims and Christians but we just don't talk about religion because our beliefs don't define our friendship.

Being a Pagan I dislike dialogue about religion I just get on with it.

He was taking the proverbial. One might as well accuse Catholics of being Christian.

granturismo

AllForIt wrote: »

Don't be nasty and associate Muslims with Islamic beliefs. That's just plain racism.

No, neither are a race. Religious bigotry is the term you're looking for.

Blaze420

granturismo wrote: »

No, neither are a race. Religious bigotry is the term you're looking for.

How can you be bigoted against something that has no proof of existence? That’s like saying anybody who tells a child Santa isn’t real is a bigot ffs

One eyed Jack

Blaze420 wrote: »

What lesson did she learn from this? You can’t say bad things about unicorn riding pedophiles from a couple of thousand years ago or the cretins who believe in him will be very very angry with you? I think if any lesson is learned from this, it’s yet another lesson of “Islam is not compatible with modern society”.

I think the lesson is that mouthy teenagers are not compatible with the Internet :pac:

Blaze420

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I think the lesson is that mouthy teenagers are not compatible with the Internet :pac:

So it’s all her fault yeah? Better off not upsetting some dark age imbeciles, that’s a quality life lesson right there.Good stuff

LincolnsBeard

is_that_so wrote: »

Someone uses social media to criticise something and didn't expect consequences? The death threats are abhorrent but we seem to have been here before on people's so-called rights to say whatever they want.

Ask yourself this, if a teenage girl suffered homophobic abuse at the hands of a Christian and went on social media and designated Christianity a "religion of hate", would she be going through this?

Unlikely. She made the mistake of thinking she lived in a secular country where she was free to give her opinion on religion. That is no longer the case in parts of Europe.

One eyed Jack

Blaze420 wrote: »

So it’s all her fault yeah? Better off not upsetting some dark age imbeciles, that’s a quality life lesson right there.Good stuff

Oh grow up. I didn’t say the situation as it has turned out was all her fault. The other mouthy teenager is equally responsible for his actions as she is for hers. That’s why I joked that mouthy teenagers are not compatible with the Internet.

There’s plenty of evidence of kids losing their shìt on the Internet and threatening all sorts of violence, firing off all sorts of abuse at other kids, and this example is just more of the same, ergo - mouthy teenagers are not compatible with the Internet.

Blaze420

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Oh grow up. I didn’t say the situation as it has turned out was all her fault. The other mouthy teenager is equally responsible for his actions as she is for hers. That’s why I joked that mouthy teenagers are not compatible with the Internet.

There’s plenty of evidence of kids losing their shìt on the Internet and threatening all sorts of violence, firing off all sorts of abuse at other kids, and this example is just more of the same, ergo - mouthy teenagers are not compatible with the Internet.

Debasing it to “teenagers on the internet lol” is not addressing the issue of a religion thinking it is above criticism and the continued forcing of politically correct restrictions on a a population. No religion is immune from critical commentary and if they don’t like it to the extent of threatening a teenager, they can **** off back to whereever it’s illegal to say those things. Im guessing the fact they are not still in those countries (and living in the west which they hate so much) makes them ****ing hypocrites on top of being absolute cretins. What an unfortunate combo.

nthclare

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He was taking the proverbial. One might as well accuse Catholics of being Christian.

My bad I misread the post, I know what he means now.

My apologies

suicide_circus

_Brian wrote: »

There repercussions for every act you do in life, it’s a great lesson learned.

the specific lesson here is what? Fear muslims?

One eyed Jack

Blaze420 wrote: »

Debasing it to “teenagers on the internet lol” is not addressing the issue of a religion thinking it is above criticism and the continued forcing of politically correct restrictions on a a population. No religion is immune from critical commentary and if they don’t like it to the extent of threatening a teenager, they can **** off back to whereever it’s illegal to say those things. Im guessing the fact they are not still in those countries (and living in the west which they hate so much) makes them ****ing hypocrites on top of being absolute cretins. What an unfortunate combo.

A religion doesn’t have the required sentience to imagine anything, let alone imagine itself above criticism, but I’m guessing you meant people, and in that case then, we are simply at the level of teenagers spouting shìte on the internet. The real problem there is that some teenagers with inflated egos are protected from the world by their parents, and where their parents can’t protect them, is from other people on the Internet who could be anywhere in the world, even in those countries where it’s illegal to say these things!

Millicently

Blaze420 wrote: »

Debasing it to “teenagers on the internet lol” is not addressing the issue of a religion thinking it is above criticism and the continued forcing of politically correct restrictions on a a population. No religion is immune from critical commentary and if they don’t like it to the extent of threatening a teenager, they can **** off back to whereever it’s illegal to say those things. Im guessing the fact they are not still in those countries (and living in the west which they hate so much) makes them ****ing hypocrites on top of being absolute cretins. What an unfortunate combo.

Those places the can **** off from will soon be here if the government succeeds with introducing Hate Speech laws. You might remember that the government consulted the public on how we feel about the introduction of such laws and asked us to fill in a questioner on the matter? NO? Not to worry, most of the country didn't know either but you can be damned sure that every NGO with a snout in the trough filled in what they wanted to see happen.

Basically, if most people are just getting along with life and integrating and there are no race related problems then there's no money for your NGO's so they will always claim that there's a racism/discrimination problem, why wouldn't they when to claim otherwise puts them out of a job a nice office a company car and a nice expense account?

Blaze420

One eyed Jack wrote: »

A religion doesn’t have the required sentience to imagine anything, let alone imagine itself above criticism, but I’m guessing you meant people, and in that case then, we are simply at the level of teenagers spouting shìte on the internet. The real problem there is that some teenagers with inflated egos are protected from the world by their parents, and where their parents can’t protect them, is from other people on the Internet who could be anywhere in the world, even in those countries where it’s illegal to say these things!

You are simply waffling to deflect from the response she got - this is nothing to do with teenager mouths off on internet. This is about a specific religion which feels free to threaten death on teenage girls - do you not see a problem with that?

Blaze420

Millicently wrote: »

Those places the can **** off from will soon be here if the government succeeds with introducing Hate Speech laws. You might remember that the government consulted the public on how we feel about the introduction of such laws and asked us to fill in a questioner on the matter? NO? Not to worry, most of the country didn't know either but you can be damned sure that every NGO with a snout in the trough filled in what they wanted to see happen.

Basically, if most people are just getting along with life and integrating and there are no race related problems then there's no money for your NGO's so they will always claim that there's a racism/discrimination problem, why wouldn't they when to claim otherwise puts them out of a job a nice office a company car and a nice expense account?

I filled the consultation form on that and like you am completely opposed to it. Feelings don’t mean **** and they are not a get out of jail free card regardless of what you claim to be.

KaneToad

AllForIt wrote: »

Don't be nasty and associate Muslims with Islamic beliefs. That's just plain racism.

As Karl Spain once said:

We should all just get along. No need for racism. Its just ignorance really. Whether you're Protestant, Hindhu, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic or German...we should just all get along...racism...just ignorance, because when it all boils down, we're all Christians.

One eyed Jack

Blaze420 wrote: »

You are simply waffling to deflect from the response she got - this is nothing to do with teenager mouths off on internet. This is about a specific religion which feels free to threaten death on teenage girls - do you not see a problem with that?

I see a problem with how you’re choosing to frame an issue to suit your own prejudices. There are idiots of every flavour on the Internet, best not to get too worked up about them to the point where you think it’s ok to take out your anger on innocent people.

One eyed Jack

Blaze420 wrote: »

I filled the consultation form on that and like you am completely opposed to it. Feelings don’t mean **** and they are not a get out of jail free card regardless of what you claim to be.

By your own standards then, your feelings don’t mean shìt. Fortunately in a civil society, feelings do mean something, regardless of what you think, which is why people are prosecuted for hurting a teenage girls feelings.

Blaze420

One eyed Jack wrote: »

By your own standards then, your feelings don’t mean shìt. Fortunately in a civil society, feelings do mean something, regardless of what you think, which is why people are prosecuted for hurting a teenage girls feelings.

Feelings don’t mean anything, I couldn’t give a **** about your feelings and likewise I wouldn’t expect you to care about mine. This is why things like gender identity, hate speech legislation, or pandering to and attempting to integrate Islam will never ever work - it’s pointless to even try.