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President Donald Trump - Formal Impeachment Inquiry Announced

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announces a formal impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump over the whistleblower complaint on Trump's communication with Ukraine about Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. /CNN

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Professor Moriarty

notobtuse wrote: »

A piece of paper does not automatically make one smarter.

Indeed. It may or may not indicate intelligence but it most certainly indicates one is more informed.

notobtuse

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Indeed. It may or may not indicate intelligence but it most certainly indicates one is more informed.

Not necessarily. There are many people who would be considered to be more informed that don’t have that piece of payer. Are democrats more educated on average? Data seems to indicate so. But I wouldn’t necessarily say they are all more intelligent, smarter or more informed.

ohnonotgmail

notobtuse wrote: »

Not necessarily. There are many people who would be considered to be more informed that don’t have that piece of payer. Are democrats more educated on average? Data seems to indicate so. But I wouldn’t necessarily say they are all more intelligent, smarter or more informed.

well of course YOU wouldn't.

notobtuse

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well of course YOU wouldn't.

Of course. I live in the real world.

Outlaw Pete

You would think after three years of being wrong about Trump-Russia collusion, and being laughed out of the Senate for even trying to impeach a President with no proof that he has done something impeachable, leftists not be running around calling others dumb, but this week that's all they seem to be doing. Have they any self awareness? I guess not.

Ivanka beautifully and aptly called out Don Lemon recently over such condescending sneering:

https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1222126462347681793

As for the video posted earlier as somehow being proof that Trump voters are dumb, sure videos can be found of either side saying stupid stuff for heaven sake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49vz-VA9mE

Winning_Stroke

abff wrote: »

Hardly surprising that they don’t care. Most of them can barely think.

They were great and wonderful when voting for Obama though?

Did you see the state of Nancy tearing up Trump's speech last night? Pathetic but I guess when everything's going against you, some people just lash out.

Penn

Winning_Stroke wrote: »

They were great and wonderful when voting for Obama though?

Did you see the state of Nancy tearing up Trump's speech last night? Pathetic but I guess when everything's going against you, some people just lash out.

Now I'm no Pelosi Defender, but I think she just had too much apple juice beforehand.

Did you see the state of Trump refusing to shake Pelosi's hand last night? Pathetic but I guess when everything's going against you, some people just lash out.

Boggles

Ivanka Trump calling people "elites".

:pac:

o1s1n

notobtuse wrote: »

Not necessarily. There are many people who would be considered to be more informed that don’t have that piece of payer. Are democrats more educated on average? Data seems to indicate so. But I wouldn’t necessarily say they are all more intelligent, smarter or more informed.

Of course they're not all smarter, intelligent or more informed. And of course you have smart people who haven't gone to college.

However, on average, the pool of those who went to third level education will be more informed. Which is what the poster meant in the above, before you came along with 'not all X!'

Winning_Stroke

Penn wrote: »

Now I'm no Pelosi Defender, but I think she just had too much apple juice beforehand.

Did you see the state of Trump refusing to shake Pelosi's hand last night? Pathetic but I guess when everything's going against you, some people just lash out.

What's going against him? The impeachment shambles comes to an end today, the Dems have ballsed up the start of their race, nothing they've shovelled so far seems to have stuck and he's looking like he's in a nice position for the race.

Hector Savage

abff wrote: »

Hardly surprising that they don’t care. Most of them can barely think.

I just wish I was as sophisticated, liberal and progressive as you !

so brave and daring !!

Outlaw Pete

Pelosi's toys well and truly out of her pram.

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1224930652052770816

Winning_Stroke

“It was the courteous thing to do considering the alternative.”

What was the alternative?

Hector Savage

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-51330442/iowa-caucus-we-voted-for-obama-then-trump

Look at these people, they had the correct opinions in 2008/12 ... then for some reason between 2012-2016 they became racist fascist sexist bigots!!!

This is the attitude that has Trump winning and winning and WINNING!!!

Democrats could have fixed their party and won this year, instead they have doubled down on their nonsense - the treatment of Tulsi Gabbard is a prime example of this.

Democrats didn't like her as she could have Trump voters voting for her - so she is rotten right ?
How else can you swing things ? surely you want to turn voters ? - it really is baffling.

Boggles

Hector Savage wrote: »

Democrats didn't like her as she could have Trump voters voting for her - so she is rotten right ?
How else can you swing things ? surely you want to turn voters ? - it really is baffling.

If the Democrats put forward another woman they might as well skip the election in November.

Either way she isn't a serious candidate and never was, she got 14 votes in Iowa.

Nationally she is polling less than Steyer around 1-2%.

Hector Savage

Boggles wrote: »

If the Democrats put forward another woman they might as well skip the election in November.

Either way she isn't a serious candidate and never was, she got 14 votes in Iowa.

Nationally she is polling less than Steyer around 1-2%.

My point is more the reasons they were attacking her, I'm not saying Gabbard is the answer or would beat Trump - but you need someone to get those Obama->Trump voters back to Dem.

Boggles

Hector Savage wrote: »

My point is more the reasons they were attacking her, I'm not saying Gabbard is the answer or would beat Trump - but you need someone to get those Obama->Trump voters back to Dem.

Just as important as getting swing votes back is to get people out voting, she wouldn't do that and it's debatable she would be anyway electable given what she is and her poll numbers.

But to get "votes back" you do it with a Moderate like Biden, he is the only one who ticks the requisite amount of boxes.

He is on paper the best of a very average bunch.

But who knows, it could be an unknown "Gay Mayor" who gets the nod, no one anticipated Trump.

Outlaw Pete

Boggles

Genius. Really.

Trump spent 80 minutes bullshíttíng.

She get's all the headlines for ripping up some sheets of paper.

Winning_Stroke

Pure genius, getting her name branded alongside "loser"... pure genius

Boggles

Winning_Stroke wrote: »

Pure genius, getting her name branded alongside "loser"... pure genius

She is on the cover of the New York Post towering over a confused looking Trump tearing up his speech.

Like I said, absolute genius.

ebbsy

abff wrote: »

Hardly surprising that they don’t care. Most of them can barely think.

They are winners.

Cody montana

ebbsy wrote: »

They are winners.

Who are winners?

ebbsy

Cody montana wrote: »

Who are winners?

Work it out.

notobtuse

Hector Savage wrote: »

I just wish I was as sophisticated, liberal and progressive as you !

so brave and daring !!

The fact that I can string more than five words together in a sentence must make his head explode. Viva la duct tape.

notobtuse

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Pelosi's toys well and truly out of her pram.

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1224930652052770816

Was Pelosi tearing up Trump’s speech or the US Constitution?

So she ripped up a speech filled with the most successful accounts of a presidency, ever, including accomplishments for blue-collar workers, people of color, and America as a whole. Pelosi actions were shameful beyond measure and she made a mockery of her position and of Congress.

Pelosi is either the most juvenile Speaker ever, stupid, suffering from dementia, or afraid of Sanders winning the DNC primary and secretly working to reelect Trump. Take your pick.

notobtuse

Winning_Stroke wrote: »

What was the alternative?

I'm guessing Seppuku.

kilns

notobtuse wrote: »

Was Pelosi tearing up Trump’s speech or the US Constitution?

So she ripped up a speech filled with the most successful accounts of a presidency, ever, including accomplishments for blue-collar workers, people of color, and America as a whole. Pelosi actions were shameful beyond measure and she made a mockery of her position and of Congress.

Pelosi is either the most juvenile Speaker ever, stupid, suffering from dementia, or afraid of Sanders winning the DNC primary and secretly working to reelect Trump. Take your pick.

Who wants to tell him that Obamas job creation was better than Trumps

The irony of a Trump supporter calling someone else out for making a mockery of their office, you guys write your own jokes

notobtuse

kilns wrote: »

Who wants to tell him that Obamas job creation was better than Trumps

The irony of a Trump supporter calling someone else out for making a mockery of their office, you guys write your own jokes

LOL... Keep thinking that! :P

FreeThePants

kilns wrote: »

Who wants to tell him that Obamas job creation was better than Trumps

The irony of a Trump supporter calling someone else out for making a mockery of their office, you guys write your own jokes

Well I mean unemployment is 40% under Trump so it's hardly surprising.

Trump supporters were eager to include participation rate into unemployment srsstics in 2016, so it's only fair to hold them to their own standards (as much as they typically cry about that being unfair).