maccored wrote: » This whole "Sinn Fein voters are poor, stupid and ignorant" guff that you hear - i dont understand how those spouting it can't A) realise how incredibly incorrect they are everyone sees through it. except for other fervent anti shinners - who wish to spread the word of how bad the shinners are so much, thats most of the SF related threads are created by them - of course
Bishop of hope wrote: » It should work both Ways , people being called stupid for voting FF/FG always and again too. Everyone is entitled to vote as their opinion tells them, doesent make them stupid or ignorant or anything sinister, just people mostly hoping things will get better and believing their choice is hopefully the right one.
Matt Barrett wrote: » A sky's the limit mystery cost on the NCH?
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » No problem. Art is never an expense. As long as it gets back to being an NCH and stops programming pop stuff and mass appeal music. €74M is a pittance anyway in the greater scheme of things.
maccored wrote: » theres quite a few people - many many in fact - who work everyday and can just about make ends meet. thats the definition of low paid if you ask me. which you werent mind you, but this is the internet
SafeSurfer wrote: » Can anyone explain how Sinn Fein can deliver the promised Sligo to Derry train, western rail corridor, Limerick light rail, Dart underground, Luas extension, to name but a few for €1.3 billion? Not credible Can anyone explain how Sinn Fein can deliver 100,000 houses for €65,000 each? Not credible Claims that their manifesto has been fully costed by the department of finance turns out to be full of qualifications from the department. Incredible
smurgen wrote: » Tell me something did you ask the same questions when FF with the backing of FG decided to blow 64 billion EURO on the banks and mortgage generations?
SafeSurfer wrote: » Ah yes. Answering questions with a question. I’ll take it that you can’t explain shall I?
McMurphy wrote: » Can you explain how FG estimated the NCH hospital would initially cost €480m, and elaborate where it's final cost will actually end up being?
smurgen wrote: » They want to spend money on infrastructure through CT and efficiencies.your crowd spent money on a black hole yet you cynically dismissed constructive proposals.you'd be sacked in the private sector.
SafeSurfer wrote: » Efficiencies? How can the Navan rail link, Derry to Sligo railway, western rail corridor and all the others be delivered for €1.3 billion? Can you explain it?
FrancieBrady wrote: » If they overspend or let budgets get massively out of control they'll be punished like any party would be....oh wait!! :rolleyes:
Matt Barrett wrote: » You should really ask SF. Likely they'll point you to the manifesto. I for one dont know. I believe they say its fully costed and unless we want to do hours of research that's what we have to go on. Same with the others.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Wonder what the DoF qualifications were there...'will be 480m if FG and FF are kept away from it and somebody actually reads the tenders.'
maccored wrote: » See how you ignored the one that did answer you
SafeSurfer wrote: » If you are interested in the actual qualifications have a listen to Matt Coopers interview with Mary Lou Mc Donald. It turns out to be little more than a letter of comfort than a detailed costing. They claim that all the figures in the manifesto, such as the houses for €65k and new railroads all over the country for €1.3 billion, are fully costed by the department is a fiction.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Can you link to what the Dept had to say? I agree with Regina Doherty by the way, I never read manifestos, they are all engaged in auctioning, including SF. FG are throwing stones at FF's one and vice versa.
SafeSurfer wrote: » I don’t have a copy of the letter. It was discussed on the Matt Cooper interview.
So you are happy to agree that the Sinn Fein manifesto is not credible.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Ah I see. As I said, I attach little importance to any of them, credible or not.
SafeSurfer wrote: » Ah I see.
