Webbs wrote: » Maybe with a few tweaks the system that they operate in Ghent coul dbe adopted in Galway particularly if and when the ring road is constructed. In that city Ghent's traffic circulation plan bars motor vehicles from travelling between zones – instead, drivers must go out to the ring road and then back in. Motorists there have since found that, while their journeys are longer in distance, they take less time because there are fewer fellow travellers on the roads. Motor vehicles used to make up 55% of trips in Ghent – that number has now fallen to 27%. Ghent’s plan had imagined a cycling modal share of 35% by 2030, up from 22% in 2016. Instead, after an explosive 60% rise in cycle use, the target was reached last year, 13 years earlier than planned for. Another advantage of the intervention is that it is remarkably cheap to implement; Ghent’s plan cost just €4m (£3.4m) to implement. By comparison it costs an estimated £20m-£30m to build just one mile of motorway in the UK.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Actually can someone tell me how bad the traffic will be at the end of the M6 where you turn off to go up towards Cong? I'm going to Cong Friday afternoon from Dublin. Does the awful traffic get out as far as where I'd turn for Cong? I think it's the N6 at that stage.
machaseh wrote: » You can't really compare Gent with Galway very well. Gent has a much higher population than Galway, has much more density and actually has a tram network.
westgolf wrote: » Leave the M6 at J19 Oranmore/Claregalway. Take route to Claregalway. Take right turn for Tuam, then, just after Claregalway village turn left to cross over to the N84 Headford Rd. Straight through Headford and on to Cong while skirting round Galway City traffic.
Webbs wrote: » Motorists there have since found that, while their journeys are longer in distance, they take less time because there are fewer fellow travellers on the roads. Motor vehicles used to make up 55% of trips in Ghent – that number has now fallen to 27%.Ghent’s plan had imagined a cycling modal share of 35% by 2030, up from 22% in 2016. Instead, after an explosive 60% rise in cycle use, the target was reached last year, 13 years earlier than planned for. Another advantage of the intervention is that it is remarkably cheap to implement; Ghent’s plan cost just €4m (£3.4m) to implement. By comparison it costs an estimated £20m-£30m to build just one mile of motorway in the UK.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Yeah I think it's going to be horrible no matter what way I go
topcat77 wrote: » There are a few certainties in the future. 1. The cost of running a car will greatly increase. (Insurance, fuel (fossil), tax and congestion fees). 2. The traffic will increase. 3. Communing times in cars will increase. 4. There will be more bike, bus lanes. 5. There will be better public transport. (can't be worse than it is currently) 6. There will be a City centre zone with no through traffic. 7. less space dedicated to the storage of personal property. (Car parking spaces) People will not agree with the changes but you'll not be able to stop them. It's up to us how we will deal with it and adapt.
Ashleigh1986 wrote: » " the city center is not the source of any of galways real traffic problems ".... SERIOUSLY ??? The longest part of any bus drivers journey regarding time is getting out of the city center . Do you even drive in galway city ? Try getting out of eyre square and having to go either outbound on bohermore / outbound college road / outbound Lough atalia / down eglinton street . The issue here is no bus lanes on any of these roads . Bumper to bumper especially at rush hour and when weather is bad . There is no space to put bus lanes in on those roads . Only solution is to bite the bullet and make them one lane or ban private cars from city center . Next time your on a bus ask the driver . They all hate doing the routes that bring them into eyre square .
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Nonsense. I live in the city centre. Catch buses to/from there almost every day and drive a rental car there occasionally. I'm sitting on a bus right now. It sailed through Eyre Square (where I got on) and along College Rd. We've just spent 10 mins getting through the Monivea / Ballyvane Rd junction. The suggestion that the bus drivers hate the routes that bring them into Eyre Square is insane: ALL routes go through Eyre Square.
Ashleigh1986 wrote: » Drive city routes with loads of traffic and dealing with frustrated customers and the buggy brigade
ChewyLouie wrote: » The "buggy brigade"??
Ashleigh1986 wrote: » The females with their buggies and kids in tow . Ask a city bus driver about the " buggy brigade " .
xckjoo wrote: » What's the issue with them?
Ashleigh1986 wrote: » The length of time it takes for them to get on a bus and seated before driver can pull off safely . It's ok if your only dealing with an odd one on your route , but certain times every bus stop has the " buggy brigade ".
machaseh wrote: » Well at the end of the day the bus is there also for people with children. It's just part of life. I also find buggies annoying and especially screaming children, but it's just part of life and we need to deal with it.
xckjoo wrote: » It's a nightmare coming into and out of Eyre Square at peak-times. Mainly Eglington Street and College Road/Bohermore (inbound).
xckjoo wrote: » If the "buggy brigade" weren't taking the bus they'd be driving and adding to traffic. Not like walking of cycling is a viable alternative for them
Deleted User wrote: » The reason why is within your complaint, its the peak demand and the infrastructure can't support it. As regards other posts about access, there is no change that can be made that (a) allows unfettered private car access and (b) increases the accessibility and throughput of the city road network. Unless, of course, you want to bend the rules of physics to your will. The only option is to reduce access for the least efficient mode (private car) and increase the appeal of more efficient forms (walking, cycling, bus).
Wombatman wrote: » Nobody is looking for 'unfettered private car access'. Most people are looking for improvements in their commute time and options. People who travel by car during peak times think it is the “most efficient” option for them for many reasons. Plenty of simple things can be to improve their experience. Proper light sequencing, pedestrian walkovers, street parking management, use of bus lanes for multi passenger cars and proper timing of road works, are some examples, that don’t require the laws of physics to be bent. Talking about aspirational plans for a magic 2037 is madness.
xckjoo wrote: » You realise not one of the examples you gave does anything but increase private car access??
Wombatman wrote: » We are talking about accessibility and throughput right? Why do other cities and town bother with the things I mentioned I wonder?
xckjoo wrote: » Throughput of cars is orders of magnitude less efficient than any of the alternatives so if that's your priority a complete ban on private car access is the obvious suggestion. What city has pedestrian walkovers? I've only ever seen them over motor way sized roads.
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