FrancieBrady wrote: » He will do the same re: SF coalition, if it is the only option IN MY OPINION.
Muahahaha wrote: » Indeed, pages upon pages of the same old tired SF/IRA crap that no one outside of a few political anoraks cares about anymore. Take it to another thread lads, this one is about the TV debates Anyway next TV debate Thursday night TV3 at 9pm Word is that Mick Barry will be taking over from Richard Boyd Barrett for this one
easypazz wrote: » A bit pointless going 7 ways again. A 3 way this time would work, then a final head to head next week. In a future election if there are genuinely 3 parties vying for it you could have 3 x 2 ways so each leader goes one to one with the other 2. I'd have loved to hear Mary Lous answer on if she signed a pledge or not last night, but Howlin butted in. It could have been a Sean "Brown Envelope" Gallagher moment for her. If the question gets answered again she have her answer ready and will spin here way out of it.
Idbatterim wrote: » what are many of them paying primarily ? vat. Its the problem here with the discourse! Its why I think the debates are farcical in a way. You have people, who pay virtually nothing into the system or have paid virtually nothing in and they want even the working poor, hit by a marginal tax rate of FIFTY percent, to pay for it all. the system here, is deluded. So are many of the electorate... they dont care who pays or that persons ability to pay, once they are working, they must be comfortable and "fair game" but they government here are idiots, I mean perception is huge here. they have just re-instated full dole here for under 25's, does anyone really care or did it make many headlines? no. I think its idiocy. The cost of that alone, is probably a multiple of whatever absolute pittance and irrelevance was saved, by closing garda stations and post offices. these state controls a colossal budget every year, and why they bothered tinkering around with what the equivalent to you and I would be red cents in our wallet and the damage it has done to them politically (rightly or wrongly), they are absolute fools
quinnd6 wrote: » Eh who's paying 50% tax? The big corporations like Apple aren't paying tax. The banks aren't paying tax. The millionaires are doing their best to dodge tax. Yet you want to go after poor people on jobseekers. Really? Are you serious oh for god's sake. No ordinary people who are working shouldn't have to pay 50% tax. I don't know where you're getting that one. Anyway this is getting silly.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Already posted this. I am voting for Matt Carty this time with his running mate as No. 2. Or vice versa. BTW, I have no interest in how others vote. Not sure why people need to know this stuff.
Idbatterim wrote: » but of course they have to pay that marginal rate. When nobody else wants or is expected to pay their way. Can you blame anyone trying to dodge tax, for doing so? they arent poor, many are getting free houses, that people next door, can pay up to E3000 a month for, after bloody tax, no lpt, no management fee. you wont find the spineless weasel politicians calling a spade a spade here, but I will! They think , go after the "high earners" on 80-100k plus "high earners" :rolleyes: and they reckon they are fair game! Why? because how many voters pull in decent money as a percentage of the electorate? buy the rest of them off, with the mid to high earners taxes, that dont actually qualify them for better dole if made redundant, state pension is virtually the same. the system here, massively benefits to welfare recipients and lower paid, but at least the workers actually work! free gp visits, while working poor dont go, because they might have to pay E60. Free unlimited transport for many too, that dont actually work! Surprised the left here, havent proposed confiscating all property and wealth of the "rich" on 80k plus and selling it off and redistributing it to margaret cash and co.... you dont know where I am coming from, because you likely have dont know how things work in other countries, in the uk or germany etc, have a debate like yesterday, I can tell you now, the taxpayers there have a voice! It wouldnt be every party , trying to siphon off more money from them and give those paying into the system , nothing in return, which is what we have here...
Naggdefy wrote: » Don't know where to post this. Ok severe wintry weather like December 2010 or Beast/Emma March 2018 hits. Transport is severely effected in many rural areas. Snow ploughs etc are struggling to keep the main roads open. Will the election be postponed at the last minute? Will it go ahead? Surely FF would suffer most? FG and SF, Greens etc most likely to gain votes in urban areas, where people can generally get to polling booths. The urban 'middle' classes most likely to vote FG, maybe Green. SF to do well in more 'working' class urban areas. What's ye're take?
SafeSurfer wrote: » Here is a useful link to the manifestos of Irish political parties ahead of each general election. It seems the meaning of a manifesto is lost on many people. Only a party in government with an overall majority can attempt to deliver its manifesto in it’s entirety.
Matt Barrett wrote: » Link? I've asked on numerous occasions for examples where Kenny's government tried to enact key manifesto points only to have Labour scuttle them. Same with Varadkar's. Any key manifesto points put under the stairs by FF?
StupidLikeAFox wrote: » He's like a lad coming back to school after the summer holidays, explaining what he got up to with "a girl who goes to a different school in a different town so you prob don't know her"[/QUOT Looks like he's going to grab something .:eek:
FrancieBrady wrote: » I could see FG catching FF here. Varadkar is doing well against them after a bad start.
boardise wrote: » I'd be astonished if this happened. FG look sure to suffer losses at least among older people and farmers. Then they are losing many big names and vote-getters. They're unlikely to edge a number of three seaters against FF who have the momentum at this stage. On top of all that,as far as I can see, most of the media is unrelentingly hostile to them. Barring unforeseen happenings -damage limitation is all they are playing for -something in the low forties I reckon.
McMurphy wrote: » Fine Gael are facing a General Election collapse in rural Ireland.
NIMAN wrote: » Couple of candidates being found out by Miriam now on Prime time. Saorise McHugh was tipped for a bright future in politics and I think she did a good job of ruining it tonight in 5 mins. FFs Charlie McConnelogue also struggling to answer what he's being asked..
NIMAN wrote: » Saorise McHugh was tipped for a bright future in politics and I think she did a good job of ruining it tonight in 5 mins.
NIMAN wrote: » Couple of candidates being found out by Miriam now on Prime time. Saorise McHugh was tipped for a bright future in politics and I think she did a good job of ruining it tonight in 5 mins.
Calhoun wrote: » What happened?
NIMAN wrote: » In summary basically made points that against what her leader and party are saying. Miriam even said maybe you need to be an independent. Charlie gave an answer and MOC basically said that's not what I asked you, and then he struggled.
