Mushy wrote: » Saw the setlist from last night...Does This Look Infected in full would be class. I remember the first time I saw Still Waiting on Kerrang.
briany wrote: » The early 2000s were probably one of the worst times for heavy music in my opinion. Bands like Staind, Static-X, Fear Factory, Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Godsmack, Mudvayne..... still don't have much time for it. There are a few bright spots here and there. System of a Down bucked the trend and kept their musicality at a time when downtuned, over-processed slop was being passed off as music. As the poster above said, Limp Bizkit had some neat ideas, but which were unfortunately negated by Durst's fly in the ointment singing. Nu Metal was to the late 90s and early 2000s what Glam Metal was to the late 80s. A scourge. And unfortunately, this is much of what Kerrang/Scuzz/P-Rock were showing. But there was some good stuff when you got away from that, like Tenacious D and Rage Against the Machine. Scuzz also gave us this gem... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESCipvfVKno
Church on Tuesday wrote: » Static were a great band and FF were pioneers and relevant long before the 00's nu metal ****e
briany wrote: » Most of the bands listed began some time in the early to mid 90s and were doing their thing before Nu-Metal exploded, but that still doesn't mean I had to enjoy the proliferation of their type of music (or, at the very least, what they were doing at the time) on the airwaves around the late 90s to early/mid 2000s. I can see many parallels between Nu-Metal and Glam Metal, such as when it became apparent that musical trends were shifting, a few bands made a bid to disavow themselves from the scene (that's when you know the music's bad). And also, many of those albums from '99 to '03 have aged really badly.
Church on Tuesday wrote: » Static and FF were not nu metal though. It's unfair to lump them in with that movement.
briany wrote: » It's not really unfair because, like Grunge, Nu Metal was something of a catch-all term to describe most of the bands who found mainstream popularity at the time. Some bands embraced the term more than others, for sure, just like with Grunge, but all these bands were adopting similar enough approaches to playing heavy music at the time like de-emphasising guitar solos, downtuning their Ibanez seven-string guitars, loads of gain, lack of melody in the riffs and screaming vocals. Yes, you could delineate the bands into Rap-Metal, or Industrial Metal, or whatever, but all those bands who were popular at the time, whatever subgenre you want to put them in, don't make it much into my Spotify playlists.
Sagats_knee wrote: » Foo Fighters Nu Metal? Not in the slightest. Foo Fighters were post grunge alt rock/heavy rock with punk pop elements making them widely appealing despite being quite heavy at times.
Arghus wrote: » FF refers to Fear Factory mate.
Church on Tuesday wrote: » FF and Static X aren't remotely nu metal. Sure FF experimented with nu metal with Digimortal but so did Machine Head and even Slayer; you wouldn't call Machine Head or Slayer nu metal would you? As for Static X, they had a sound entirely of their own heavily influenced by industrial metal. I mean, even System started off as a nu metal band with masks and face paint aesthetic.
briany wrote: » My point, here, is that I didn't enjoy the prevailing trends in heavy music at the time, and it's not as if bands like Static-X and FF were exactly bucking them. Even Metallica did a record with angsty vocals, downtuned guitars and no solos, but, no, I wouldn't call the band Nu-Metal. I would, however, say that they were undoubtedly influenced by what was popular at the time, and were bandwagoning a bit.
Granadino wrote: » @briany Vex Red?
