Jjameson wrote: » The sums on o- p+ Angus cattle bringing close enough to 2 euro a kg are worse.
kk.man wrote: » Your right i always said too many chasing the AA bonus for cattle that have less scope for weight.
Jjameson wrote: » Some great Angus cattle in your home county however in mine, bad easy calving bulls on bad cows and cattle buyers who are slow learners rewarding same.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Buyer needs to learn to use a calculator
Robson99 wrote: » What way are base prices at the moment ?? Are we still 3.60 for heifers ??
memorystick wrote: » The best bit of machinery on any farm. And the cheapest.
straight wrote: » Calculator is dangerous in the wrong hands. What are cull cows making in the factory? Would they kill out at 50%?
Bass Reeves wrote: » At the end of the time everybody knows there own system. Easiest part but it the part lads find hardest to quantify is there own costs. That where the calculator is an essential tool. After a while you get a handle it. After that essentially you find the unprofitable bits and exit those parts. Lots of lads that are continuously turning cattle fail to access unprofitable parts of there system and move away from it. I used to winter finish. I left it for a few main reasons, nitrates due to stocking level, problem with spring purchases of stock or else overwintering large numbers compared to summer output.
Robson99 wrote: » Exactly. Also a big problem a lot of lads have is they never factor in a cost for days spent at grass...how often do you hear sure the only ate a couple of pounds of meal...when they could have ate a 1/2 ton Moving away from Winter Finishing here for now anyways...doesn't add up at 3.60 a kg...lesson learned and will probably take another year to have adjusted fully..
lalababa wrote: » Is everyone playing the fool or what? Who can make money at the base price? My brother's shed cost 80k...he won't even make that back in 40years! WTF are we at?
Jjameson wrote: » Old bull price. If he’s plenty of flesh the mart is often best.
weatherbyfoxer wrote: » anyone get prices for this week?..hearing 370 is negotiable on steers with another 5c available on heifers
1373 wrote: » Was offered 3.60 flat for O/R fr bulls but not a fan of the factory , so didn’t go with it . They are well able to offer higher prices to go the next day
Cavanjack wrote: » I would have let them off. Rang factory today wanted bulls and bullocks tomorrow. €3.65 u grade bulls 3.55 r’s. €3.65 bullocks.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Friesian Bulls could be in more demand as carcass weight would be nearer supermarket spec. R and U grades could be killing too heavy
Base price wrote: » Chinese trade for bulls is offsetting supermarket specs.
Jjameson wrote: » That was a serious price. They’re mostly good r grade? 3.45 for a mix of over and under 30 month bullockslast week and wasn’t got that soft either.
1373 wrote: » Same man offered me 3.50 flat a week earlier. They’re all well fed u24 months ,British friesian , 50/50 o/r but they all kill out fat score 3 , if short of fat nobody wants them
kk.man wrote: » That's a good fat score for fr bulls. They must have taken a good lot of feeding?
Jjameson wrote: » That was a serious price.
Bass Reeves wrote: » If inspec retail carcass's arein short supply 280-380DW then Fr bulls will be much more likely to meet spec rather than heavy U&R grade bulls.Not too long ago processors graded bulls U350 DW as bullocks.
memorystick wrote: » Just shows how low they have been when someone considers this to be a good price.
Base price wrote: » All under 30 month old bulls non QA are eligible for the Chinese market. The reality is it doesn't matter what the situation was "not too long ago". You have to understand the situation. Fit bulls are wanted by the factories for the Chinese trade but unfortunately that market is only for the forequarter's.
