Junkyard Tom wrote: » Media, politics, civil service and so on.
suicide_circus wrote: » it's impossible to deny that statement. but had some country not reached that level of hegemony, how retarded would mankind have been technologically ? i'm obviously not supportive of the unspeakable violence done by the british empire and the suffering that resulted but in terms of world history, if it wasnt them, it was probably gonna be someone else and there were dividends.
wmahcm wrote: » Provos loved (.................)shopping.
Stovepipe wrote: » Given that two of the killers were already members of the British military, collusion already existed. I suspect the late Nairac is being tied to this killing as a way of tidying up loose ends. He will probably also be blamed, now that he is safely dead, for every single unsolved killing of a Catholic right up to the estimated date of his death, so as to close a few files and bury the past. Apart from that, anyone on this thread who wished him a cruel death and an even crueller fate thereafter needs to have a close look at themselves.
horsebox1977 wrote: » Put through a mincer in South Armagh. The poor little mite.
alastair wrote: » No he wasn’t. He was shot in Louth and his body was buried, then subsequently moved, by the IRA. The whole mincer business was always guff. The Independent Commission for the Location of Victims' Remains supposedly had evidence that Niac was out of the north when the Miami Showband massacre happened, so either they were given false documentation, or this new evidence needs to be cross referenced with theirs.
Aegir wrote: » From what i have read, there is no suggestion that he was involved in the actual attack, only that he had helped to plan it.
Odhinn wrote: » Considering their activities over the centuries, from this to the Dublin-monaghan bombings, to the atrocities in Kenya and Aden, in Asia, The middle east and Africa, thats a bit of an understatement. An evil empire based primarily on violence and repression, sowing division wherever it went.
Odhinn wrote: » There was a provo empire? Fascinating Captain.
tdf7187 wrote: » If you believe the late Seamus Mallon, there was and still is a provo empire. Obviously, that does not excuse the Brits terroristic and illegal activities in Ireland. See, it's possible to condemn both, strange to relate.
maccored wrote: » Whenever you have supporting evidence to back up the claim, do let us all know.
tdf7187 wrote: » Will you get real. Who do you think did the Northern Bank robbery? Diesel laundering? The spying operation on Harcourt Street? Etc, etc, etc.https://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0927/339292-two-arrested-over-surveillance-of-garda-station/
maccored wrote: » northern bank robbery? the one the RUC and the brits did?
tdf7187 wrote: » Can you provide some evidence for this assertion?
Police said the money was thought to have been planted in a bid to divert attention from the crisis engulfing the IRA and Sinn Fein following the seizure of more than £2 million by Irish police investigating an alleged major IRA money laundering operation.
maccored wrote: » The only money found linked directly to the robbery, bar the laundered money in cork (which had no links to the provos)> this though IS linked to the RUC. I'd say as a payoff. Also, at that particular time, Trimble was to meet SF and was having a hard time convincing his party of doing the same. Then - boom - bank robbery. no need for David to worry anymore.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/money-found-at-belfast-club-from-northern-bank-1.1296929 from the article - as if SF or the provos are going to smuggle themselves into a high security RUC complex. If they could put 50 grand there, they could have put a load of semtex
KWAG2019 wrote: » Only the utterly naive or the West Brit contingent should regard British and unionist activity in Ireland as being beneficial to this country. The Brits have to be worked with but never trusted. The full details of the Dublin and Monaghan bombings are needed in public now.
KWAG2019 wrote: » Only the utterly naive or the West Brit contingent should regard British and unionist activity in Ireland as being beneficial to this country. The Brits have to be worked with but never trusted.
KWAG2019 wrote: » The full details of the Dublin and Monaghan bombings are needed in public now.
tdf7187 wrote: » By your own admission, you are speculating. On your last point, this was 2002-2004. The Provos were in ceasefire, had been for years. They weren't going to put a load of semtex in a high security RUC complex, ffs. I admit I can't prove the NBR job was a Provo job, but equally on your side, you can't prove to my satisfaction that it was an RUC job. We both support a united Ireland so let's agree to differ.
tdf7187 wrote: » Fight your war on our neighbouring island on your own, I'm not interested, and thankfully neither are 90% of the populace. Best ask Senator McDowell, lol, IIRC it was when he was Min for Justice that certain files disappeared. Maybe sometimes it's better to let sleeping dogs lie.
tdf7187 wrote: » They're our nearest neighbour and Brexit or not will continue to be. Their ancestors did dreadful things in Ireland in the past and in other countries, but I'm really not cool with your type of extremism and I don't think it does you any good. We have more in common with them than you'd like to admit.
maccored wrote: » why? too afraid of what you might find?
Matt Barrett wrote: » The British people are no better or worse than the Irish people. The issue is the actions of representatives of their state and not abiding by their own rules.
maccored wrote: » they werent going to rob a bank either then going by your theory. I love it that you are happy making claims with no court evidence - or in fact any evidence at all considering how big the robbery was. The only facts out there point to the RUC and therefore the british government. The robbery suited them massively. It didnt really suit SF or the provos as all it did was bring pressure (which again is what the unionists wanted at the time.
alastair wrote: » Money was found in a PSNI social club - presumably after a tip-off. Money was also found in the possession of Sinn Fein people (Tom Hanlon - also convicted of being a provo), and one Real IRA member. An unlikely collaboration for a robbery supposedly by the ‘Brits and RUC’.
maccored wrote: » didnt that investigation not uncover quite a lot of money laundering of all persuasions? One person linked to the IRA (which he only got three years for) isnt exactly definitive proof.
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