Matt Barrett wrote: » The ignorance of your post is ironic. I know of no party that advocate for people defrauding the welfare system. Who do you think represents the working tax payer?
maccored wrote: » PLUS - whats wrong with commemorations? The hunger strikers have every right to be commemorated
Blazer wrote: » The only people who vote SF are the welfare class and the lower paid members of society who believe they will get their slice of the pie after SF taxes all the millionaires.......
Blazer wrote: » As someone who pays a high amount of tax I already know that SF are not the party for people like me ie the middle class. If they ever got into power as a majority party it would be a compete and utter disaster. I’d be happy for them to do a Labour or PD and then their supporters see them for what they really are. I’m pretty sure those approaching pension age in the north are quite happily with them.
maccored wrote: » I think you need to educate yourself a bit on the subject of SF and the kind of people who vote for them. Dont really think reading the Indo headlines (or wherever you got that tosh from) is good enough.
Blazer wrote: » The only people who vote SF are the welfare class and the lower paid members of society who believe they will get their slice of the pie after SF taxes all the millionaires. However SF will realise hey, we’re already taxing the ****e out of people on 100k plus and they’re paying around 80% of the tax take. If these people sod off how can we build all those houses we promised. Also SF know they’d be a complete failure in government. They’re claiming they’ll reverse the pension age here while up North they’ve approved the increase. Of course it’s all the brits faults. All SF are good for is opposition and their quite happy with that. Mary Lou and the likes get to live the champagne lifestyle while paying tokenism to unification to keep the republicans happy and promising everything to the welfare class knowing most of them won’t bother their holes voting anyway because Saturday is the weekend and it’s time to get wasted on cider and weed not wasting time going voting.
tipptom wrote: » I don't care what SF thinks but I would prefer our SCC courts not run by FG/FF appointees.
[Deleted User] wrote: » there are many people in the country who secretly vote SF, but will never openly admit to it. A bit like having a secret Super Noodles habit when your not a student any more.
RandomName2 wrote: » And, as you say, that's a good thing....blahblahblahblah
maccored wrote: » i think what we're seeing is a sinn fein trying to move itself away from the past. it disagreed with the SCC initially - now they prefer a review. might be showing they're trying to move on.
RandomName2 wrote: » And, as you say, that's a good thing. No, no, I was just sharing their videos commemorating things that happened decades ago. In fact, Sinn Fein leans heavily into republican history. When they aren't talking about 800 years, they are claiming to be a party that is 115 years old. Look if you are reading into anything that I'm saying it's because you're living in the past. It's time for you to move on maccored. I think I shall make some toast.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » How do the SF supporters around here feel about going into government after the election? Excited about the possibility of lining out for a bit of county hurling?
RandomName2 wrote: » Really? Denis O'Brien is not a great individual (in any estimation other than his assets). But does he engage in murder, smuggling, tax evasion, armed violence? No. I also think that he is fairly apolitical, or that his political allegiances are temporary and expedient. Although he bought the Sindo, which was for a long time a bit of a Fine Gael mouthpiece, from what I can see he has been actively hostile to the traditional reporters of that paper. Some actual facts would be appreciated if you have them available. Or at least allude to them if you are afraid that boards would get sued by DOB
maccored wrote: » What are you on about? People have forgotten what FF done in the last election (since FF are ahead presently and more than likely will have most seats after the election)
maccored wrote: » yet you are harping on about SF's past gibbering on about things that happened decades ago.
maccored wrote: » You need to stop living in the past and really really need to stop repeating yourself (and making me repeat myself)
RandomName2 wrote: » Your post confused me, until I realized that that should read Unless the quip about them winning the election was meant ironically. As is usually the case for both Sinn Fein and its more ardent supporters, diametrically opposed views have to be balanced. In this case you then have to say that the public SHOULD forget about what Fianna Fail did to the economy. It is time to move on. The noughties are the distant past, no need to be bringing up talk about economic fecklessness or murder. Meanwhile, literally on their official youtube page Don't be bringing up the past when it's not useful propaganda though. A little bit like the warning Martin McGuiness gave to Robert McCartney's sisters.
maccored wrote: » you mean the FF who will win the upcoming election? Yeah, we've really forgotten about their past alright :rolleyes:
Yeah, we're really remembering their past alright :rolleyes:
Bishop of hope wrote: » I'm only asking. Take my situation for instance, I live in Longford, now mainly I'm faced with a choice of fcek all to vote for. We currently have no TD in the county. My SF candidate is based in mullingar, a FF and FG TD in Mullingar and Boxer Moran in Athlone. Labours TD currently is retiring, based in westmeath and his replacement is also based there. There are a few no hopers running in my own county and FF and FG have one each based in longford, so seriously if I want a candidate who will be focused on Longford and with a chance of being elected I have to vote FF and FG 1 and 2 or vice versa.
Bishop of hope wrote: » FFs busting the economy is in the past, should we forget that? If you can't point to political party's past then every election should leave them with a clean slate. That's not what happens though.
maccored wrote: » err - "terrorism, organized crime, blood diplomacy, armalite and ballot box tactics" ... yes, you avery much living in the past. the first two they arent even guilty of and the third's debatable. "armalite and ballot box" is an 80s quote The Columbia three was 2001. You are a relic you are so far in the past.
smurgen wrote: » Sure FG wanted to celebrate the RIC only last month and then took a pop at the public following a massive uproar.or does FG only support violence when it's against Irish citizens?
maccored wrote: » only 13 years ago. Say that to a 10 year old. Or 'I'll drink that bottle of milk - sure its only 13 years out of date'. Tell me - do you read your posts first or does it all just come out?
joe40 wrote: » Sinn Fein will not be in government because both FF and FG have categorically ruled out (shamefully in my opinion) coalition, so to go back on that would be a major u turn. Even if they were in government they are realistic enough to know as junior coalition partners they will not get all their policies implemented. Government may actually be damaging for Sinn Fein. No party will get to fulfil all their promises/aspirations that is a given, but junior coalition partners especially left leaning take the brunt of the blame. Regardless of who wins this election housing and health are going to be major problems for years to come. No easy fixes
blanch152 wrote: » Yes, in a thread about why people won't vote for Sinn Fein, keep introducing Fine Gael to the conversation in a desperate attempt at whataboutery.
RandomName2 wrote: » Right, so they still haven't condemned this sort of behavior? The defense of Slab by Gerry Adams was only 13 years ago, same with the murder of Denis Donaldson. The murder of Robert McCartney and Joseph Rafferty was 14 years ago. This isn't ancient history. By that logic any criticism of FF is null and void because they haven't been in government for about 8 years. The 2008 recession? What a relic of the past. In relation to Irish republican terrorism, SF lies and blusters, and hopes that noone asks questions. They say 'that was in the past' and 'the peace process', but never condemn political violence in of itself. With murders like the ones above, they claim to have no connection to the incidents despite having their fingerprints all over them. When questions arise concerning who actually perpetrated the murders, there is a policy of omerta. The only court that can deal with terrorists is currently being actively targeted by Sinn Fein.We had nothing to do with the murder of Garda Jerry McCabe, we just sent a high ranking representative to greet his murderers when they were let out of prison in 2009. It's the dishonesty that is particularly nauseating. And just in relation to your relic of the Columbia three, you will be happy to know that Mary Lou honored them with a night of “celebration and remembrance” way back in 2015. Eons ago.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/convicted-colombia-three-member-honoured-with-night-of-celebration-1.2448193
blanch152 wrote: » However, supplying those addicts can generate an awful lot of money for a terrorist organisation, as we saw in the 1970s and 1980s.
maccored wrote: » Everyday crime doesnt require the SCC. Plus once again you are very misinformed if you think SF or the provos had anything to do with drugs. You cant rely on a pool of addicts for volunteers.
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