Granny15 wrote: » I’d be more concerned about Varradkar blinking first in the Brexit negotiations with Johnson
Snow Garden wrote: » I never liked Adams and didn't trust him one bit. But I do respect Mary Lou as a capable politician. She was superb in the Repeal-the-8th debates. She made fools our of some of those Iona lunatics. However I think SF is full of dodgy candidates and supporters. I could never vote for them. At the same time I am always puzzled with how much FFG supporters attack SF with every opportunity. They really fear them. The usual suspects are falling over themselves on Boards to continually highlight their IRA links. It's a bit creepy to be honest. I doubt any one of them have any real empathy for victims like Jean McConville. In more recent times I will always recall that it was FFG governments that continually ignored massive Garda corruption and tried to bury honest men like Maurice McCabe. As I keep saying, FF and FG need to merge. SF would remain a smaller fringe party and maybe we could get some more viable alternative parties to emerge.
Phoebas wrote: » Don't be playing dumb. Martin Ferris TD - gunrunner. Not seeking re-election thankfully. Dessie Ellis TD - bomb maker.
is_that_so wrote: » I haven't said a word about other parties. I was commenting on why people don't choose SF, one reason is their economic policies.
McMurphy wrote: » Here is our current Taoiseach, leader of FG (the party that wanted a state commentation for the black and tans)posing for a selfie with Michael Collins portrait in the background. Collins was of the cuddly type of terrorist I assume.
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » I’ve said it before, if they cut their ties to the “old guard”, ditched the attending of “provo” funerals and just focused on being an alternative “left” party for the republic they would be well worth a vote. But, instead, here we are, 20+ years after the Good Friday, or Belfast, Agreement and SF seem so reluctant to change, even when they’ve got some decent, young, “candidates” out there. Looks like they’ll remain under the “shadow of a gunman” for awhile yet.
McMurphy wrote: » Here is our current Taoiseach, leader of FG (the party that wanted a state commentation for the black and tans)posing for a selfie with Michael Collins portrait, (which hangs pride of place within his office) in the background. Collins was of the cuddly type of terrorist I assume.
Jimbob1977 wrote: » I'm not a Sinn Fein voter, but The Troubles can't be thrown at them forever. The Good Friday Agreement was 22 years ago. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail grew out of a Sinn Fein split. Nelson Mandela was also a 'terrorist turned statesman'.
blanch152 wrote: » What a desperate despairing response, can you not come up with something better. You have foamed at the mouth for months now about a Fine Gael TD who may possibly have committed insurance fraud, though it should be noted that she has not been charged with any offence. At the same time, you are defending the presence of convicted terrorists in the current ranks of Sinn Fein. You couldn’t make this up.
maccored wrote: » yet you had opened that particular post with "As it is in all parties .." My point is that SF operate in a totally democratic fashion. the original post I had been replying to had said "And in Sinn fein, that party decision-making is much more murky than the other parties." If being democratic is 'murky' then I wonder what would be considered acceptable. Its no wonder we get the governments that we get.
frillyleaf wrote: » I’ve heard people saying multiple times that they like certain SF candidates but they won’t vote for them as they are Sinn Fein. Trying to understand why there is such opposite to Sinn Fein? Have looked up online but not getting good info. Surely if someone likes a candidate and what they stand for they should vote for them? Please explain
maccored wrote: » Doyou have any idea of Irish politics? Many TDs through history have been "convicted terrorists". Doesnt suit your one sided agenda all the same
smurgen wrote: » Ah so you're just making baseless claims! carry-on!
blanch152 wrote: » It is always about history with Sinn Fein and look over there at those bad people, excuses is all they are. I didn’t vote for those terrorists either. Maybe some day, when Sinn Fein grow up and realise what they did, apologise and make amends, including disowning the IRA, maybe then people like me can consider voting for them.
McMurphy wrote: » Lol, if Maria Bailey was brought into the thread you'd be whinging about offtopicness and whatabouting. If you want to discuss s TD and insurance fraud (while her party ran a campaign about cheats) I'll meet you over in the relevant thread. Deal with the point being made blanch, it's a bit rich and hypocritical pontificating about terrorist's this and terrorists that when the Taoiseach of the country has a portrait of a "terrorist" hanging on his wall. Leo, and the FG party in general are populated by a bunch of self serving hypocritical ****, the proof of which is evident here when they cry about terrorist's.
blanch152 wrote: » Maybe some day, when Sinn Fein grow up and realise what they did, apologise and make amends, including disowning the IRA, maybe then people like me can consider voting for them.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » I think it is fairly obvious dark extremely shady recent history. Lack of work in Stormont over the last two years. Abstentionist policy in Westminster. Airy fairy economic policies. But besides that they are grand.
facehugger99 wrote: » Their economic polices would make that impossible for me.
Granny15 wrote: » FG and it’s supporters on this board are spoofers
endainoz wrote: » Cash for ash caused Stormont to fall, have had an abstentionist policy for over 100 years, their voters know that. Economic policy is always the go to one here, would it be any worse than austerity?
Tomo89 wrote: » Most of SF tds were in the ra. Are you a real irish man? Do you believe in self determination?
Granny15 wrote: » Somehow I have a feeling you're grasp of economics is not very good.
facehugger99 wrote: » your
