Deleted User wrote: » Ff and fg want you all to believe the best Ireland can offer the coming generations is renting forever and retiring closer to 70 than 60. They were the ones who found money for banks and nama but not for your pensions. Remember the pension reserve fund. The banks got that. At this stage I think alot of people would prefer the country go bankrupt trying to give them housing and the ability to retire. Renting in retirement is a sure way to poverty and even homelessness. How many of today's 25-35 year olds will never have a pension fund and rent for ever under ff and fg? I'd vote for sf just to shake it up if I were in their shoes.
marieholmfan wrote: » I don't mind the late retirement. People are in better health in their 80s now than in they were in their seventies thirty years ago. The house thing is crazy. Just build the council houses. Also at the risk of being a racist we need a discussion on immigration. The poorest native citizens are disadvantaged by immigration; I know a woman who cam here from Poland when she was 18 at worked as a KP , then a waitress, then office manager ,then a paralegal and is now an apprentice solicitor after paying for her own degree. Is she likely or unlikely to be a productive citizen? BUT when she was an office cleaner and a KP she was just cheap labour depressing working class wages.
Granny15 wrote: » You've dodged the question/statement. What are all you right wing types doing on an internet forum during working hours if you are so hard working?
FTA69 wrote: » Jesus Christ the conflict in Ireland ended 23 years ago with a mutually-agreed peace treaty. Despite what the Independent news group will tell you, Republicans weren’t the ones who invented violence in Ireland; it occurred due to a set of political conditions brought about by a variety of actors. The IRA etc are finished, SF are a run-of-the-mill social democratic party. It’s time people moved on.
quokula wrote: » You're trying to imply that anyone must be right wing, if they're sceptical of a party with a history of supporting organised crime, of completely neglecting their duties in Northern Ireland and the UK, of using nationalism as a tool to garner support and of generally complaining from the sidelines without ever offering solutions to any issues or doing anything positive in society. They're a nationalist party and use many of the campaign techniques of the far right in much of Europe which I've seen first hand living abroad, but they make progressive sounding noises because they know that particular flavour of nationalism won't fly in this country - though the mask occasionally slips as seen with their councillor's recent racist and homophobic tirade, which is far closer to the values of the Sinn Fein supporters I know locally, than what they try to portray. You can be left wing and vote for someone like Green or Labour. You don't have to be right wing to oppose Sinn Fein.
Granny15 wrote: » Regardless, there is an echo in here of right wing posters dumbing down the left as dishonest when it themselves who are the dishonest ones spreading bile and garbage about the left being lazy and delusional when the opposite is the case.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Don't believe EVERYTHING you hear on RTE.
paw patrol wrote: » I don't tbh. I don't see why you are saying that what I said isn't true when it is. They all sing from the same hymn sheet that is provided to them - you are buying the hive mind with a SF vote. Who controls the hive? Mary Lou is only the public face of that control
facehugger99 wrote: » There is no left v right division in Irish politics - that's all in your head I'm afraid. The two main parties are slightly left of center, Labour and the Greens are slightly left of them and then you have ragtag of populist parties, including the like of SF, PBP and the AAA's selling any old snakeoil sh;ite to try and skive a few votes from the hard of thinking. Add a few single-issue independents into the mix for the laugh.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » how was she cheap labour depresssing working class wages then office cleaner and KP are pretty much always minimum wage jobs?
marieholmfan wrote: » If there'd been no immigration then shortage of labour would have driven up the wages for those jobs. Or I suppose people could have cleaned their own offices.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » shortage of labour? are you having a laugh?
Granny15 wrote: » Is there a left right divide in the electorate?
Granny15 wrote: » You're probably some delusional right winger who thinks/denies people from less well off backgrounds are getting screwed.
runswithascript wrote: » So the Irish Times poll from yesterday tells a story different to the title of this thread. Strange Mary Lou is excluded to the debate tonight considering this. I assume that the noises SF is making on things like housing and free college fees is resonating with voters.
freshpopcorn wrote: » I think OP when it comes around to the general election people often focus on the party more than the candidate in the area.(Within reason of course) I live in X election area for example. I know people and they hate X for FF but they vote for them because they believe FF are the best party to run the country. They also vote for the other FF candidate. Similarly SF have a candidate called Y and he's seen as a bit of a fool. However they vote for him because they think the SF party are the correct party to run the country. Similarly you might like a candidate but you don't believe there politics are correct for the running of this country. You might give them a shot in the local elections tough. I used X and Y so not to mention names.
Whelo79 wrote: » I didn't know boards was populated with so many economists and financial accountants who can expertly confirm that SF's policies are not financially viable and would bankrupt the state in a matter of months!
seamus wrote: » Considering that Sinn Féin's Finance spokesperson has no financial qualifications...
jimgoose wrote: » He has a certificate in civil engineering from DIT.
road_high wrote: » Which he lied/window dressed about. Pretended he was a “Civil Engineer” whereas in reality he has the technician certification. His professional and academic career are almost as mediocre as his political performance then
jimgoose wrote: » To be sure. A modest man, with much to be modest about.
seamus wrote: » Considering that Sinn Féin's Finance spokesperson has no financial qualifications, you'll have to agree that endorsing or criticising their finance proposals doesn't require a relevant qualification. What Sinn Fein have going for their finance proposals is that they present in a simplistic, easy-to-consume manner. Consequently this makes it easy to see why they won't work.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Just for some balance.https://www.thejournal.ie/fiscal-space-2586172-Feb2016/
quokula wrote: » I got quite confused reading that article, until I realised it was several years old and not related to this election. Interestingly, if you compare those predictions to what has actually happened, government spending has in fact gone up by the 12 billion predicted by Labour and FG in that article, from 68 to 80 billion.
road_high wrote: » The elephant in the room of course being that under SF We’d have a Syriza style implosion of the economy and talk of “fiscal space” would move to IMF bailouts once again
