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Election called for Saturday 8 February

Thelonious Monk

Can't see a thread on this. That's pretty soon huh? I hope people vote anything but FF/FG. Why not do something different for a change?

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Plumbthedepths

Matt Barrett wrote: »

She's a private citizen. I wouldn't post her name. Not sure how I could link to the recipient of an affordable house any way.
The FG TD is Catherine Byrne. Her daughter Clare became a councilor when the Ma became a TD, took over the seat. Clare later resigned.
I know the family pretty well.

http://www.charleybrady.com/?p=1298

This lad had an opinion on the matter.

McMurphy

Matt Barrett wrote: »

She's a private citizen. I wouldn't post her name. Not sure how I could link to the recipient of an affordable house any way.
The FG TD is Catherine Byrne. Her daughter Clare became a councilor when the Ma became a TD, took over the seat. Clare later resigned.
I know the family pretty well.

Wasn't there a story about one of her lot subletting or something?

Might be completely wrong mind you, but I recall something along those lines.

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

You need to link to that somewhere Matt, I'm sure it's the truth but without a link it's spit.

She's a private citizen. I wouldn't post her name. Not sure how I could link to the recipient of an affordable house any way.
The FG TD is Catherine Byrne. Her daughter Clare became a councilor when the Ma became a TD, took over the seat. Clare later resigned.
I know the family pretty well.

LeinsterDub

Idbatterim wrote: »

totally disagree, the cost is billions and its insane! The free housing, free gp, free two hundred every week, yeah a real "pennies" alright!

The penny's comment was referring to fraud which I realise re-reading the other poster wasn't referring to. We should be looking at free health care for all. I think every party agrees with this.

Good luck solving the housing crisis by not funding social houses.

Bishop of hope

Matt Barrett wrote: »

My local FG TD's daughter got an affordable house aged 21 or 22 she was. No kids. Got 'lucky'. Her sister was a councilor at the time too.

You need to link to that somewhere Matt, I'm sure it's the truth but without a link it's spit.

James Brown

NovemberWren wrote: »

not sure what you mean by this: but I can assure you that there are (politically connected) 'workers' given houses; and then want the unemployed put out of the estates. And, these secure 'workers' don't want the bother of... a mortgage.

My local FG TD's daughter got an affordable house aged 21 or 22 she was. No kids. Got 'lucky'. Her sister was a councilor at the time too.

James Brown

MadYaker wrote: »

Id vote for anyone who says they'll means test all social welfare. This idea of everyone getting child benefit and free GP cards for all kids is a joke. My parents used to put the child benefit in a credit union account and spend it on a family holiday abroad every year. Don't get me wrong it was great, but we needed it like a hole in the head while other families were struggling.

So you want people to be stopped from doing what your family did?
I agree.

James Brown

rob316 wrote: »

If SF were serious there target should be the squeezed middle. The family scraping by every month paying their mortgage, marginally in the high tax rate, struggling with childcare costs. Protect the family who are been gouged by market rent. That's the majority, the working poor as they call it. I'm one and I don't want to hear about social housing for everyone and increasing social welfare.
The pay for nothing brigade are not the vote SF should be looking for. The anti water charges section of the electorate will not win you an election.

Marginal tax cuts, rent freezes, further help towards childcare, affordable housing, free schoolbooks. That's the party I want to go with, that once was labour but they sold their soul to get into power.

I thought Mary Lou would provide modern leadership and take them away from the association of a solely republican working class party. That can't be your only trait, FF and FG don't trade on their histories.

It's just sad that there is no credible alternative to the FG and FF roundabout.

Well they've refused to engage with SF and FG would rather bring FF back to power. And folk blame PBP and the like because of FF/FG being the only 'viable' options. That's the FF/FG plan.

Jim Gazebo

Since when did canvassing at traffic lights become a thing?!

NovemberWren

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Way to much sense in that post. Amazing that some think that working person got a social house.

not sure what you mean by this: but I can assure you that there are (politically connected) 'workers' given houses; and then want the unemployed put out of the estates. And, these secure 'workers' don't want the bother of... a mortgage.

L1011

MadYaker wrote: »

Id vote for anyone who says they'll means test all social welfare. This idea of everyone getting child benefit and free GP cards for all kids is a joke. My parents used to put the child benefit in a credit union account and spend it on a family holiday abroad every year. Don't get me wrong it was great, but we needed it like a hole in the head while other families were struggling.

De-universalising basic entitlements is a great way to create a welfare trap / incentive to stay on the dole depending on your viewpoint.

Idbatterim

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Your energy and vote would be better used to push for improved health, transport and housing. The 'scabs' on the dole are costing you pennies the issues I listed are costing you thousands

totally disagree, the cost is billions and its insane! The free housing, free gp, free two hundred every week, yeah a real "pennies" alright!

LeinsterDub

MadYaker wrote: »

Id vote for anyone who says they'll means test all social welfare. This idea of everyone getting child benefit and free GP cards for all kids is a joke. My parents used to put the child benefit in a credit union account and spend it on a family holiday abroad every year. Don't get me wrong it was great, but we needed it like a hole in the head while other families were struggling.

Are their any other universal social benefits you want to pay for? Schools? Parks?

So we should spend even more on health? 25 billion per annum and counting. One of the highest in terms of GDP in the world

MadYaker

Id vote for anyone who says they'll means test all social welfare. This idea of everyone getting child benefit and free GP cards for all kids is a joke. My parents used to put the child benefit in a credit union account and spend it on a family holiday abroad every year. Don't get me wrong it was great, but we needed it like a hole in the head while other families were struggling.

Billcarson

walshb wrote: »

Right now, the country is just full of combat and aggro and vitriol; every Tom, Dick and Harry now, unfortunately, has a voice because of social media, and that voice seems to be used to be plain nasty and aggressive...

Clare Daly, Mick Wallace, Boyd Barrett, Gino? People who cannot even be arsed to dress remotely appropriately, don't one bit instill any confidence in me. They simply exhibit contempt for democracy.

Contradictory. Why shouldn't everyone have a voice? Isn't that democracy? If people are annoyed at the gov they have every right to voice it,be it aggressive or not. Unless we just all roll over and take it no matter what the Gov throws at us.

rob316

If SF were serious there target should be the squeezed middle. The family scraping by every month paying their mortgage, marginally in the high tax rate, struggling with childcare costs. Protect the family who are been gouged by market rent. That's the majority, the working poor as they call it. I'm one and I don't want to hear about social housing for everyone and increasing social welfare.
The pay for nothing brigade are not the vote SF should be looking for. The anti water charges section of the electorate will not win you an election.

Marginal tax cuts, rent freezes, further help towards childcare, affordable housing, free schoolbooks. That's the party I want to go with, that once was labour but they sold their soul to get into power.

I thought Mary Lou would provide modern leadership and take them away from the association of a solely republican working class party. That can't be your only trait, FF and FG don't trade on their histories.

It's just sad that there is no credible alternative to the FG and FF roundabout.

LeinsterDub

Geuze wrote: »

Welfare staff in Longford tell me that TDs ring to urge the staff to get people onto DA.

What we need are TDs who will try to reduce the number on DA.

Your energy and vote would be better used to push for improved health, transport and housing. The 'scabs' on the dole are costing you pennies the issues I listed are costing you thousands

Geuze

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Can you name one politician, never mind party, that advocates letting people decide not to work?

Welfare staff in Longford tell me that TDs ring to urge the staff to get people onto DA.

What we need are TDs who will try to reduce the number on DA.

LeinsterDub

average_runner wrote: »

Big tax increases so and then a bailout

As I recall the greens introduced the carbon tax the last time. What other taxes did they introduce and what increases are being proposed this time?

average_runner

saabsaab wrote: »

I predict the Greens will do very well in this election and perhaps hold the balance of power.

Big tax increases so and then a bailout

blanch152

Geuze wrote: »

We must make sites in villages much cheaper than sites on farms.

We must make it cheaper to buy/build a house in a village than on a one-off site.

There are a lot of derelict buildings in towns and small village. A grant scheme for retrofitting/rebuilding within the confines of such towns would be a very good idea.

blanch152

saabsaab wrote: »

I predict the Greens will do very well in this election and perhaps hold the balance of power.

They could be the difference all right.

There are a lot of prominent independents retiring in this election - Finian McGrath, Michael Harty, John Halligan, Maureen O'Sullivan - or who won't be running - Mick Wallace, Clare Daly - and most of them will not be replaced by other independents. Others like Zappone, Shane Ross, Boxer Moran etc. are in trouble in their constituencies.

Peter Casey, Verona Murphy and Marian Harkin are the most prominent of those who might replace them, but the likelihood is that there will be more losing than winning, and that the number of independents in the next Dail will be less.

It is quite possible to imagine a Green Party of 11/12 seats holding the balance and being the difference between a FF-led coalition or a FG-led coalition.

rob316

I'd always vote SF but I just can't take them serious anymore. They don't even try to act like the a big serious party. They don't have an election agenda its just the lazy "we will fix everything with our magic money tree". They will dominate the working class vote as they say all the right things but I can see why they just don't appeal to the rest of the electorate.
They are going backwards if anything and I expect FG to walk this election unless the country are willing to forgive the past sins of FF.

Geuze

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

How do we encourage people to live in towns and villages where we can provide services/schools/local facilities though?

Waving a big stick and saying "no more one-offs" doesnt work.

We must make sites in villages much cheaper than sites on farms.

We must make it cheaper to buy/build a house in a village than on a one-off site.

Idbatterim

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Fianna Fáil has never heard of the IMF or boom bust or mass emigration or national bankruptcy.

You'd think butter wouldn't melt the way they are going on.

yeah, look I dont think it massively mattered who was at the helm for the tiger boom, the tiger crash, the recovery etc. You would have gotten virtually the same outcome, whether it was FF or FG. HOWEVER I do believe FG are less likely to ruin us again, the place is already booking economy wise, even though many dont feel it, we absolutely do not need FF pouring petrol on the flames!

they jack up welfare etc, **** hits fan and then it all has to be cut again, the endless debate, waffle , finger pointing! We have tried, FF , we have tried FG, we have had FFG. FG are the marginally less **** IMO and as for the others that make up the dail, they are the worst of them all!

McMurphy

saabsaab wrote: »

I predict the Greens will do very well in this election and perhaps hold the balance of power.

Please God no.

saabsaab

I predict the Greens will do very well in this election and perhaps hold the balance of power.

gmisk

I see Maureen o Sullivan isn't seeking re election in Dublin central could be very interesting battle would love to see Gary Gannon get a seat

walshb

I will vote for FG in my area. I like the person running, and she has done good for the community

I was never aligned to any particular party. Years ago I would have given SF a vote, but recently they have been all about pandering to the populist vitriol that I see day in and day out. Plus, they don’t want to be in power.

Right now, the country is just full of combat and aggro and vitriol; every Tom, Dick and Harry now, unfortunately, has a voice because of social media, and that voice seems to be used to be plain nasty and aggressive...

Fed up to the back teeth of this nonsense about voting out the FG and FFs....

Why exactly will replace them, and do a better job?

Clare Daly, Mick Wallace, Boyd Barrett, Gino? People who cannot even be arsed to dress remotely appropriately, don't one bit instill any confidence in me. They simply exhibit contempt for democracy.

is_that_so

Matt Barrett wrote: »

You you'd vote Sinn Fein over an unknown indie?

I'd vote for neither!