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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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This thread is a continuation of the megathreads for discussing the presidency of Donald Trump and any matters which relate to this.

Please keep discussion civil and constructive and bear the charter in mind before posting.

Update 16/5/20:

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Outlaw Pete

Yeah, should be interesting TV.

Meanwhile though, as this impeachment nonsense is taking place, Trump is getting on with doing the job he was elected to do.

Promises made, promises kept ....

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1217520520318550018
https://twitter.com/RepDevinNunes/status/1217492992094801921

His accomplishments as POTUS are outstanding so far and especially so given he has managed to do it all in the midst of constant harassment and obstruction from the democrats. Trump fully deserves five more years in office. Let's hope he gets it.

everlast75

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

His accomplishments as POTUS are outstanding so far and especially so given he has managed to do it all in the midst of constant harassment and obstruction from the democrats. Trump fully deserves five more years in office. Let's hope he gets it.

Seriously. This has at this stage to be a wind up.

Fonny122

everlast75 wrote: »

Seriously. This has at this stage to be a wind up.

Best to respond in kind, then.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Meanwhile though, as this impeachment nonsense is taking place, Trump is getting on with doing the job he was elected to do.

Tweeting angrily at the clouds like abe Simpson?

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1217469828656701442?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

everlast75

I'm 100% done with Collins.

She never misses an opportunity to disappoint

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1217535138151780353?s=19

Leroy42

What did he actually promise and what has he delivered?

Please note before answering, the question is not what you thought he said, or meant or what you think is in the deal.

What we know for certain he that Trump carried out a massive social security program for farmers, paid for by ordinary Joe.

What we know is that he failed to tackle human rights abuses in China for fear of upsetting the Chinese.

briany

Leroy42 wrote: »

What did he actually promise and what has he delivered?

Please note before answering, the question is not what you thought he said, or meant or what you think is in the deal.

What we know for certain he that Trump carried out a massive social security program for farmers, paid for by ordinary Joe.

What we know is that he failed to tackle human rights abuses in China for fear of upsetting the Chinese.

Beyond all the monumental amount of shíte Trump has talked on Twitter, and even the actions for which he is currently being investigated, I have to think that (assuming he's not indicted) the biggest factor in his potential reelection still comes down to what he's done in terms of hard legislation.

His base - the flyover state people, the 'build that wall' people, the 'lock her up' people, the coal country people, the 'basket of deplorables', the 'forgotten', the 'drain the swamp' people, etc. Do they feel like Trump has delivered? Do they feel like their lives have tangibly improved under his leadership?

At the end of the day, people care more about food on the table than how classy their POTUS is. That's what people like Michael Moore are forgetting. If Trump can at least make his base believe that he's delivered, and the Democrates fail to produce an inspiring candidate, and, most importantly, Trump is not indicted, then there must be a strong chance he gets another 4 years in the Oval Office.

StringerBell

everlast75 wrote: »

I'm 100% done with Collins.

She never misses an opportunity to disappoint

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1217535138151780353?s=19

Bout time everybody stopped this **** with Collins tbh, it's the same thing every time. There are memes about it going around a long time at this stage! I really hope she loses her seat.

I gave up on her after the Kavanaugh fiasco.

Brian?

briany wrote: »

Beyond all the monumental amount of shíte Trump has talked on Twitter, and even the actions for which he is currently being investigated, I have to think that (assuming he's not indicted) the biggest factor in his potential reelection still comes down to what he's done in terms of hard legislation.

His base - the flyover state people, the 'build that wall' people, the 'lock her up' people, the coal country people, the 'basket of deplorables', the 'forgotten', the 'drain the swamp' people, etc. Do they feel like Trump has delivered? Do they feel like their lives have tangibly improved under his leadership?

At the end of the day, people care more about food on the table than how classy their POTUS is. That's what people like Michael Moore are forgetting. If Trump can at least make his base believe that he's delivered, and the Democrates fail to produce an inspiring candidate, and, most importantly, Trump is not indicted, then there must be a strong chance he gets another 4 years in the Oval Office.

Why are you picking out Michael Moore? He's predicting a Trump win in 2020, just like he did in 2020.

I agree with the rest of your post.

[Deleted User]

briany wrote: »

Beyond all the monumental amount of shíte Trump has talked on Twitter, and even the actions for which he is currently being investigated, I have to think that (assuming he's not indicted) the biggest factor in his potential reelection still comes down to what he's done in terms of hard legislation.

His base - the flyover state people, the 'build that wall' people, the 'lock her up' people, the coal country people, the 'basket of deplorables', the 'forgotten', the 'drain the swamp' people, etc. Do they feel like Trump has delivered? Do they feel like their lives have tangibly improved under his leadership?

At the end of the day, people care more about food on the table than how classy their POTUS is. That's what people like Michael Moore are forgetting. If Trump can at least make his base believe that he's delivered, and the Democrates fail to produce an inspiring candidate, and, most importantly, Trump is not indicted, then there must be a strong chance he gets another 4 years in the Oval Office.

Michael Moore seems quite concerned about the food and especially the water on people's tables. Unlike Trump, who is gleefully gutting environmental regulations whenever he can.

ECO_Mental

Cody montana wrote: »

BREAKING:
Lev Parnas & his attorney to appear as guests on The Rachel Maddow Show tonight

This should be good.

Just saw on the Twitter machine that he going to do another document dump at 7pm then maddow at 9pm......should be gud!!! He must have some serious stuff

PropJoe10

ECO_Mental wrote: »

Just saw on the Twitter machine that he going to do another document dump at 7pm then maddow at 9pm......should be gud!!! He must have some serious stuff

Already seen some of it on Reddit. Pretty mindblowing stuff if true.

Itssoeasy

There is about to be the formal signing and walking over to the senate with the articles of Impeachment. To put this into an historical context, this will be only the second time in US history that people will see this process unfold.

I know the GOP and trump like to name call Adam Schiff but I think it's because he's on top of the process. His contribution before the vote on the articles he spoke very well and from what looked like no to minimal notes. He has also being involved in an impeachment process before with a federal judge in the senate.

Itssoeasy

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Already seen some of it on Reddit. Pretty mindblowing stuff if true.

It's on Reddit already ? Well the stuff from yesterday was just more evidence of what we already knew. I mean whatever you think of John Bolton you can see why he described it as a drug deal. It looks shady as ****.

Itssoeasy

Let's sign the thing already. Even in politics the Americans drag the arse out of things.

aloyisious

Changing the tack slightly, BBC news has reported that Vlad has decided to alter the rules of Presidential terms in office and obligingly enough the entire Russian Govt cabinet has resigned from office. I can just imagine the thoughts running through Don's head when he hears the news.

Itssoeasy

It's a pen lads.

Itssoeasy

aloyisious wrote: »

Changing the tack slightly, BBC news has reported that Vlad has decided to alter the rules of Presidential terms in office and obligingly enough the entire Russian Govt cabinet has resigned from office. I can just imagine the thoughts running through Don's head when he hears the news.

You know that someone will convince trump that he can do the same thing.

Upforthematch

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It's a pen lads.

Why is Nancy signing the impeachment document with 20 pens? She was using one pen for each letter of her name.

Are they going to sell the pens on ebay or what?

Itssoeasy

Upforthematch wrote: »

Why is Nancy signing the impeachment document with 20 pens? She was using one pen for each letter of her name.

Are they going to sell the pens on ebay or what?

It's a thing that's done so that people have a pen that is part of history.

Itssoeasy

Well there we go. I mean this is history.

hotmail.com

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It's a thing that's done so that people have a pen that is part of history.

This is an embarrassing farce for all involved, including the media which is giving the impression that this is important. He will be acquitted and life will be unchanged for Americans.

Upforthematch

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It's a thing that's done so that people have a pen that is part of history.

Doesn't feel authentic when the pens are clearly being used for souvenir purposes.

Itssoeasy

hotmail.com wrote: »

This is an embarrassing farce for all involved, including the media which is giving the impression that this is important. He will be acquitted and life will be unchanged.

Why is it embarrassing ? It is important and Clinton was unlikely to be impeached but the process is the point.

hotmail.com

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Why is it embarrassing ? It is important and Clinton was unlikely to be impeached but the process is the point.

Using different pens! It's like a sketch.

The process is pointless. The lack of interest in this farce outside in the real world isn't reflected by the media.

[Deleted User]

hotmail.com wrote: »

Using different pens! It's like a sketch.

The process is pointless. The lack of interest in this farce outside in the real world isn't reflected by the media.

Do you mean the impeachment holds no interest to anyone?

hotmail.com

DubInMeath wrote: »

Do you mean the impeachment holds no interest to anyone?

Yes. Outside of Twitter, there is a clear lack of interest in this farce.

Why?

Because he will be acquitted.

StringerBell

Can you show your workings for how you came to the clear lack of interest?

Ludo

StringerBell wrote: »

Can you show your workings for how you came to the clear lack of interest?

Obviously by reading through this 26 page thread and the previous 6 threads before it about Trump (on an IRISH website at that). Sure no one has an interest in him or his removal...outside of twitter that is.
Nope, never heard anyone talk about it at all.

hotmail.com

StringerBell wrote: »

Can you show your workings for how you came to the clear lack of interest?

So you think that people other than political anoraks and Twitter posters (most people don't use twitter) are actually following this story?

This story has no economic implications for the public in America. No protests, terribly low viewing figures for the news channels, fatigue regarding Trump news, disillusionment with both parties, 50% of the electorate don't vote etc etc.

hotmail.com

Ludo wrote: »

Obviously by reading through this 26 page thread and the previous 6 threads before it about Trump (on an IRISH website at that). Sure no one has an interest in him or his removal...outside of twitter that is.
Nope, never heard anyone talk about it at all.

I say this as a political anorak.

Most people do not talk about Trump. It is not a daily topic of conversation.

So those that believe this impeachment is historical or whatever are just deluded.